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Judie,

Sadly, Gerry (bifrost99) has passed away.

Maybe someone else will be able to answer your question.

I thought you should know.
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OMG! I didn't know Gerry died. What happened to him?
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Judie,

Sadly, Gerry (bifrost99) has passed away.

Maybe someone else will be able to answer your question.

I thought you should know.
Thanks. I'll keep the family in my thoughts.
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Arrowwind,

Here's a link that summarizes what happened:

https://www.natmedtalk.com/chitchat/2771-bifrost99.html
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Judie It's a type of Abdominal Exercise, however due to the nature of it as the picture indicates, I would potentially not do something like that, as you could cause a problem with he discs in your Back, particularly if form or technique were a tad off.

You might be better for Abdominals, trying an exercise like Planks.

1. Lie down Stomach First

2. Have your Forearms flat on the Ground. Arms should more or less be an L shape.

3. Lift up onto your toes, so you are making your back straight like a Bridge.

If you keep the back straight, you should be able to feel the Abdominals almost quivering if you will.

This should be at least manageable initially for 30 seconds, but regular 3-4 sessions weekly, should +hopefully promote longevity of hold for anything upto 90-120 seconds.

Anything over about 120 seconds on Planks shouldn't be necessary.

This is a better option possibly than those Chair lifts, and indeed things like Leg Raises, as Leg Raises can promote a tiny bit of Spinal Lordosis, (arching of the Lower back), during the movement, which might cause you pain.

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Thanks so much. I'll give it a try.
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The good thing with those is, that unlike some Abdominal exercises, like Leg Raises for example, where some Lordosis could occur during the movement, it only occurs in Planks if you let it, because Planks are a static exercise, you can avoid Lordosis, and if you get any, it's easy to raise the Lower Back, level with the Upper Back, even after you started .
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The good thing with those is, that unlike some Abdominal exercises, like Leg Raises for example, where some Lordosis could occur during the movement, it only occurs in Planks if you let it, because Planks are a static exercise, you can avoid Lordosis, and if you get any, it's easy to raise the Lower Back, level with the Upper Back, even after you started .
Mmmmm.....I forgot one tiny detail and remembered it really quickly when I tried this. I have an old injury, thoracic (sp) outlet syndrome, which is muscle and nerve damage in between the shoulder blades. It only hurts me when I lift something too heavy. Well, the above exercise means I have to hold up my body weight. I haven't lifted anything heavy in over 5 years because of the lower back issues, but I got it now! LOL. Darn!
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You're not necessarily lifting anything heavy though, you're supporting it. A lot of Bodyweight would be transferred into the Ground. The thing with planks is, you're allowing the Abs to fight against gravity, which is not the same thing, as trying to carry a heavy box of stuff.

It's a different biomechanical action altogether, and therefore should be okay for you.

The best way to know is to try it for a few seconds initially. If you feel some pain, then stop, if not you'll be okay.
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