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I'm working on my hypertension which can be caused by several things; just like my hypothyroidism can be. I need to do something quick. Otherwise my stress over this will just keep making things worse. I'm trying to build up my adrenals, thyroid, and liver.

The liver regulates the synthesis and the breakdown of cholesterol and is the main reason for high cholesterol. Liver enzyme tests do not help; because liver enzyme tests are not testing for liver function. They are looking for liver damage.

The thyroid aids in cholesterol metabolism. And when the thyroid is under active inflammatory homocysteine can rise leading to arterial inflammation and plaque formation.

When we injure an area the cholesterol floods the area to help promote healing of the injury. This happens whether it is a cut or is damage to an artery from something like high blood pressure. If the source of inflammation is not removed then the cholesterol keeps laying down over the injury, which leads to the narrowing and possible eventual occlusion of the artery.

Sometimes my immune system is too helpful and just over reacts. This is where adaptogens are handy. But I've got to get to the source of this, without going to a doctor. After relieving my high BP symptom, I might go find out how my cholesterol is doing. If statins are necessary, I might try red yeast rice; and then figure out how to wean off of it. I'm not ready for life long drugs like most of my friends. My 3 year old insurance probably won't help either; as it is a preexisting condition.
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It is because the liver makes the cholesterol found in the blood that diet changes sometimes do not have the effect we seek. If your diet is already low in cholesterol all the pectin in the world will not help. There could be a genetic cause as we suspect in my brother, or some other less obvious malfunction

I have moderated my homocystine levels with B6 and I forget what else right now. Did you try B6, at least 50 mg a day, but 100 might be better.
Have to think what the other thing is.

Have you been able to determine your hypertension cause? I have a friend who has it due to some kind of kidney irregularity that was caused by an infection years ago. She's high as a kite all the time.
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People don't drop dead from heart attacks because of high cholesterol, that is a myth.

Most die because they either don't have enough D3 in their blood, or they don't get enough magnesium.

Magnesium regulates calcium and potassium, so if you don't get enough magnesium (about 90% of people don't) then the potassium goes out through the urine and the calcium ends up in the soft tissues, such as arteries and brain. That is what causes strokes and heart attacks.

Lack of vitamin C can also cause cardiovascular issues since it is used to strengthen artery walls. The RDA is less than 100 mg per day, and that is laughable. Everyone should take a minimum of 3000 mg per day in divided doses.

On a final note, cholesterol is used for many functions, including patching weak spots in artery walls. If it was so bad, the liver would not manufacture it. Besides, animals have high cholesterol and don't die from heart attacks. That is mainly due to the fact that they make their own C.

High cholesterol was "invented" to sell statin drugs, plain and simple.

Niacin (B3) regulates cholesterol, which in turn regulates blood pressure. Your brother would be wise to get off the statins before they kill him. Tell him to try 2000 mg of niacinamide per day for three months instead. There is also the red (yeast) rice, however, it doesn't regulate anything, and keep in mind it is also a fungus...
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My brother has determined his own course of action according to his personal belief system. If its good enough for him its good enough for me.
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People don't drop dead from heart attacks because of high cholesterol, that is a myth.

Most die because they either don't have enough D3 in their blood, or they don't get enough magnesium.

Magnesium regulates calcium and potassium, so if you don't get enough magnesium (about 90% of people don't) then the potassium goes out through the urine and the calcium ends up in the soft tissues, such as arteries and brain. That is what causes strokes and heart attacks.

Lack of vitamin C can also cause cardiovascular issues since it is used to strengthen artery walls. The RDA is less than 100 mg per day, and that is laughable. Everyone should take a minimum of 3000 mg per day in divided doses.

On a final note, cholesterol is used for many functions, including patching weak spots in artery walls. If it was so bad, the liver would not manufacture it. Besides, animals have high cholesterol and don't die from heart attacks. That is mainly due to the fact that they make their own C.

High cholesterol was "invented" to sell statin drugs, plain and simple.

Niacin (B3) regulates cholesterol, which in turn regulates blood pressure. Your brother would be wise to get off the statins before they kill him. Tell him to try 2000 mg of niacinamide per day for three months instead. There is also the red (yeast) rice, however, it doesn't regulate anything, and keep in mind it is also a fungus...
There are issues with very high cholesterol and triglycerides, however, 20 yrs ago a cholesterol reading of 220 was ok. Now they want to put people on statins at a 200. My old college roomate went in for a check up and was worried he would have liver problems (2 bottles of wine a day). I told him he would not and they would put him on cholesterol meds. He calls me a week later and asks " how the hell did I guess that correctly". I replied, you eat no junk food and tons of veggies, so the chances of liver issues are very low, as for the cholesterol meds, they put everybody on them"
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This is a good thread. Thanks to everybody for posting.

I have strong opinions on pharmaceutical drugs. I do my best to be objective but some of the practices of the A.M.A. and Big Pharma really get me worked up. I am disgusted that harmful man-made chemicals are the first option. That is wrong in so many ways. They are known to cause death and ill health. They are known to not be effective long term solutions. It's absolutely ridiculous.

Proper diet and exercise always promote better health, both short term and long term. There are no exceptions to this. Scientifically measurable results may not show up immediately but that is no reason to discredit their efficacy. Good science never stops looking for the next best option. The scientific method is not the standard for Big Pharma.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

"Scientific method refers to a body of techniques for investigating phenomena, acquiring new knowledge, or correcting and integrating previous knowledge. To be termed scientific, a method of inquiry must be based on gathering observable, empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning.[1] A scientific method consists of the collection of data through observation and experimentation, and the formulation and testing of hypotheses.[2]

Although procedures vary from one field of inquiry to another, identifiable features distinguish scientific inquiry from other methodologies of knowledge. Scientific researchers propose hypotheses as explanations of phenomena, and design experimental studies to test these hypotheses. These steps must be repeatable in order to dependably predict any future results. Theories that encompass wider domains of inquiry may bind many independently-derived hypotheses together in a coherent, supportive structure. This in turn may help form new hypotheses or place groups of hypotheses into context.

Among other facets shared by the various fields of inquiry is the conviction that the process be objective to reduce biased interpretations of the results. Another basic expectation is to document, archive and share all data and methodology so they are available for careful scrutiny by other scientists, thereby allowing other researchers the opportunity to verify results by attempting to reproduce them. This practice, called full disclosure, also allows statistical measures of the reliability of these data to be established."


They (Big Pharma) don't seem to care about anything but profit. Why even use science if they're not going to be objective and strive to better the field?

As always, it boils down to money. And the FDA just hangs back, taking payoff after payoff, grinning like idiots. All the while proclaiming to be protecting us. Simultaneously, they repeatedly publish absolute nonsense about the danger of natural remedies. Many of these natural remedies have hundreds of years of historical and anecdotal evidence to at least warrant further studies.

That was a bit of a rant, wasn't it? I apologize.

From my experience, I feel that a diet high in fruits and vegetables (high in fiber and antioxidants), daily aerobic activity, and supplementation with vitamins, minerals, and herbs will promote cardiovascular health comprehensively. Man made drugs should be a last resort.

Garlic, onions, turmeric, milk thistle, hemp seed oil, flax seed oil, niacin, and/or Dandelion root are all natural options that should be considered before deadly and poisonous drugs.

Thanks again to everybody for sharing your thoughts.
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I know many people who have had issues with statins. Anything from muscle wasting to leg pain to forgetfulness to a generalized blah feeling. They might be ok for short term use, but that is it.
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