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Old 06-13-2006, 10:12 AM
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Now THIS is a vaccine I'd take a chance on.

https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/5071036.stm

No, I'm NOT a vaccine conspirist. Vaccines for routine childhood illnesses strike me as over-medicine. But I'm not too keen on the prospect of getting Alzheimers--as I think most people aren't--so I'd definitely consider this vaccine. It does indeed sound promising.
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Thanks for this post RT, This sounds hopeful. Something to watch --
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What are you all? Crazy?

Vaccines have always been made from the disease virus or pathological cause. They have no clue what causes alzheimers. Vaccinating with plaque from an alzheimers patient may be more likely to give you the disease than cure it, as has been the reputation with many a vaccine.

Screwing with your immune system by "medical specialists" will never save your hide. You play with fire and only contribute to more chronic disease for yourself in the long run.

I'll let you try it first. then if 10 or 20 million of yous survive without teltale sign of vaccine caused immune disturbance well into old age then I will recommend it to those who believe in vaccine and I will continue to pass.
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That's the spirit, Arrowwind! Let them have it. A VACCINE... for Alzheimer's? While they don't have the foggiest idea what causes it?
Ohboy! Biomedical science is going to hell in a handbasket even faster that I thought.
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They have much more than a foggy notion and, hopefully, by the time I need to worry about AD, the fog will have lifted. As I understand it, most scientists believe that AD begins with the buildup of beta amyloid protein in the brain. The vaccine described above helped cut levels of key amyloid proteins thought to cause the disease by up to 50% in some parts of the brain. As the article states, unlike alternative vaccines in development, which use viruses, this vaccine produced no side effects.

Yup, I'll take my chances with this particular vaccine. I'm pleased that it appears they're making progress against this insidious disease. Not all vaccines are from the Devil.
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Ruby says "As I understand it, most scientists believe that AD begins with the buildup of beta amyloid protein in the brain. "

This is not the cause, this is the symptom. Once again conventional medicine chasing around symtoms and never getting to a cause. This is why thy can not CURE any disease. The predisposition always remains to raise its ugly head a little further down the line, and usually in a more chronic and serious disease.

Go ahead Ruby, dink with your brain through immune system response. Who knows! It might help you
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I thought I read somewhere that it was claimed to be caused by aluminum leaching out into the soda in pop cans?
Or OYG what if it is coming from my aluminum foil covered conspiracy hat.
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Yes, it is true. There are risks in anything, but if I were to be diagnosed with the onset of alzheimers (and if I believed it) I would seriously consider the described stuff. If I was a lot younger, I would not, but at 86 how much would I have to lose?
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Mad Scientist,

Yes, there is an association with aluminum with alzheimers. There have been those who have tried to debunk the study but the study has been repeated and a large percentage of alzheimers have unusually high aluminum deposits in brain tissue, so would assmue that It would be prudent at some point in ones life to have a heavy metals assay done and go through corrective measures if needed.

Again it is unclear if this phenomena is a result of the disease or the cause of the disease.

Most vaccine are required long before the onset of disease. Most alzheimers starts showing in mid sixites and up. The typical time span from diagnois to decay and death is 10 years. Some get off longer, others not as long but the trail to death as we all know, is not a happy journey and goes on for many years. Earliest diagnosis is often found in the early 50's and on more rare occassion in the 40's. So with that in mind you could predict that if such a vaccine were available they would want to start hitting you with it in the 40's at least and then maybe boosters further along as they would have no clue how long the vaccine may be active for.

It will not be part of my antiaging program, especially in light of the informaton from Dharma Singh Khalsa MD who specializes in mental deteroriation and brain nutrition. And I will keep doing my oxygen/ozone therapies. Oxygen is the foundation of all yogic exercise and especially important in kundalini yoga, the King of all Yoga. Check out his site. The guy is cutting edge.

https://www.alzheimersprevention.org/index.html

Hey, he's got a study on meditation for stimulating the brain on this site. The old saa taa naa maa meditation I use to do way back when. It is very powerful and guess I should start doing it again.

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Good to know...

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-crm061406.php

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Another thing I don't understand about Alzheimers is that not everyone with the plaque buildup has the disease. Why?
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Speaking of oxygen and Yoga. I just received an advertising blurb about �The Secrets of Ancient Chinese Breathing Techniques�. It claims it will teach you the correct way of breathing so as to relieve stress and a number of other problems. Would appear to be another study on meditation and how you can use the mind to improve health.

Never heard of saa taa naa maa??

All though many a year ago I took a course called �Silva mind Control� (the name has now been changed to the Silva Method to make it sounds less threatening. :wink: ) anyway it was an interesting course. Covered a number of topics from simple memory techniques to healing.


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This is why they [Official Medicine] cannot CURE any disease.
Now, is that a true statement, arrowwind? Come on, is it? There are no diseases at all that are reasonably and effectively remedied (cured) through the ministrations of Official Medicine?

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I feel like I'm reading posts at HSI.
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Although many a year ago I took a course called �Silva Mind Control� (the name has now been changed to the Silva Method to make it sounds less threatening.) Anyway it was an interesting course. Covered a number of topics from simple memory techniques to healing.
What was your experience with it, MS? Did you enjoy it and use the techniques in your everyday life?
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Yes, Ruby I do think it is a true statement. They can cut, and drug and repress symptoms. They can create new disease with their drugs. They can control symptoms but they can not cure. They can repress microbes and cause other malfunctions as they do it.

They can make a patient think they are better but he ugly hydra of disease will manefest again.

And on the same note much of alternative medicine does not cure either. If a symptom is repressed it is not cured wether repressed by an herb or a drug.

Sometimes repression is the most we can hope for becasue no one knows the answer.

Your best chances of cure are through acupuncture, homeopathy, some herbs, oxygen therapies and naturopathic philosophy that demands detox, drainage and excellent diet and rectification of neurosis via meditation. Sometimes nutritional supplementation can rectify situations but most often will not cure.
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