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Hey All - I think it's Tuesday of this week - May 2 - ABC is planning a Movie on the Bird Flu scenario. I'm not sure of the time. so watch your local ABC station for that.

This should really raise the FEAR potential of the masses. It would be interesting to know if there's some special group behind this or if it's just a gimmic to get greater viewer interest share. :wink:
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Shortly afer the movie and the inevitable "investigation"
by congress, we should start to hear the drumbeat for
mandatory flu shots. Wha'dya bet?
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This guy correctly foresaw the danger of Katrina. No one listened. Will other prognosticators of catastrophe be similarly ignored?

Kerry Emanuel--The Man Who Saw Katrina Coming
https://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...187251,00.html

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Less than a month before Katrina hit, the journal Nature published an extensive study that Emanuel had conducted in which he surveyed the power of roughly 4,800 hurricanes going back decades. His findings are as damning as they are scary. In that span of time�the period during which climatologists have been warning that greenhouse gases are steadily raising atmospheric and ocean temperatures�the power of the storms doubled. Warm ocean water is like nitroglycerine for hurricanes, and while many researchers had been predicting an explosion of more powerful storms, Emanuel, 51, offered evidence that it was actually happening. "I didn't expect to get people's attention with this paper," he says, "but the timing, so close to Katrina, may have helped wake them up some."
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"Fatal Contact: Bird Flu in America," an ABC made-for-television movie, airs May 9, just as scientists are to begin testing of wild birds in Alaska that could herald the arrival of bird flu in North America. Scientists fear the bird flu virus could evolve so it could be passed from human to human, sparking a global pandemic.

The two-hour movie plays up that notion to the fullest, with a running ticker that tallies tens of millions of victims worldwide. In one scene, the bodies are thrown on a pyre, like the carcasses of cows torched in the 2001 foot-and-mouth disease outbreak in Great Britain. The producers of the movie, from the writer of 2002's "Atomic Twister," bill their work as a "thinking man's disaster film."
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JPS said: Shortly afer the movie and the inevitable "investigation"
by congress, we should start to hear the drumbeat for
mandatory flu shots. Wha'dya bet?
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I bet not. There is no vaccine at this time. They have already admitted that there may likely be no effective vaccine due to time constraint, especially if the flu started in the US. If it started in the orient then often there is 6 months or more to develop a vaccine.

This is why they are so worried and why they have been so concerned about the birds on this continent getting the flu. If the transfer of this virus should start in the US there will be no vaccine in time and if you should believe in vaccines, as most of them do, this is a big deal..
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Shortly afer the movie and the inevitable "investigation" by congress, we should start to hear the drumbeat for mandatory flu shots. Wha'dya bet?
Five companies have received Federal funding to pursue a vaccine. Under the circumstances, I can't imagine any government doing nothing but leave its citizens to their own devices. To many people, the government is damned if they do and damned if they don't.
https://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au...55E912,00.html

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THE U.S. has stepped up its defences against a deadly bird flu pandemic by awarding $1.3 billion worth of contracts to five drug companies to develop a vaccine.

The five-year contracts were given to Britain's GlaxoSmithKline PLC, MedImmune Inc, Swiss firm Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics, DynPort Vaccine Co and Solvay Pharmaceuticals of Belgium.

The announcement came a day after the White House released an action plan to counter any avian flu pandemic, amid fears that an outbreak could kill as many as two million Americans and cause economic havoc.

"We have the opportunity to be the first generation that prepares for pandemic," Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt said in a statement. "Today, we're taking a step closer to preparedness by investing more than $1 billion to develop vaccines more quickly and to produce them here in the United States."

A total of 31 prototype vaccines against strains of bird flu are being tested on humans, but only six are configured for the fast-track manufacturing technique favoured by the U.S. in its new initiative.

The vaccine trials involve 15 companies in Europe, the U.S. and Australia, according to the International Federation of Pharmaceutical Manufacturers and Associations.

The announcement came as agriculture and health ministers from the Asia Pacific region met in Vietnam yesterday to map out a plan to prepare for a potential bird flu pandemic.
If the bird flu is a conspiracy, it's one motley group of conspirators!
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If the bird flu is a conspiracy,
it's one motley group of conspirators!
You should have added. "It's a SMALL group of
conspirators."

Let's use the analogy of turning the Chicago river green
for St. Patrick's day.

Milllions of gallons of water flow here hourly, but just
a tiny amount of food coloring turns the entire river
bright green.

When you go down and personally look at the river,
you will SWEAR that it is green, and you'll be an "expert"
because you have first hand knowledge.

All of your friends will hail you as a "genius" for observing
this "phenomonom."

No, I'm sorry, it only takes a small, critically placed group
of conspirators,
to control the river's color and it's observer's
reaction to their mischief.

They can then step out of the way and let our own tendancies
to search out the "truth" take over.

Think about it.
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I have thought about it.

Again, you're speaking of a relatively small event--one river turning green--in a relatively small area involving a relatively small group of people (who all speak the same language) to make it happen.

I'm talking about a world-wide event, among disparate nations with widely divergent political philosophies and socio-economic agendas. Why in the world would the prime minister of Botswana, population 1,640,115,
conspire with, oh, England and the U.S., to enrich nations more powerful than itself?

Where does this conspiracy party take place? (Maybe Botswana wasn't even invited.) Who's the leader of this grand conspiracy? Who's initial idea was it? Did everyone get the memo, or just those whose last names begins with C (for conspiracy)?

It's far easier to turn the Chicago River green than to create world-wide demand for a dubious solution (vaccines) to a (hopefully) unrealized pandemic while, in the meantime, you convince the very same nations to decimate their poultry populations.

Either a group of someones are incredibly persuasive (maybe they read Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People" several times) or there is, in fact, some merit to the argument that a pandemic is more than a remote possibility.

They're Coming to Get Us--Yes, They Are!
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The river story was an ANALOGY!

I didn't mean it literally. Not about same speaking
people, local event etc.

The city of Chicago has 3 million people and a group
of 3-5 people can "turn the river green"
They can exist anywhere, locally, nationally,
internationally.

Do the math.

It does not take a huge amount of people to create
havoc. They only have to be well placed, and very
discreet about their tactics, motives etc.

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Of course the Chicago River example was an analogy.

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It does not take a huge amount of people to create havoc. They only have to be well placed, and very discreet about their tactics, motives etc.
Describe "well-placed" when it comes to a world-wide event. Describe how "discreet" they must be to convince entire nations to euthanize a leading source of income. Do they meet in secret to discuss their diabolical plans or do they use email?

Who are these people (exactly) and how do they conspire to create only the ghost of a pandemic involving the world's press, the scientific community around the world, politicians and entire governments. Most of all, how do they get the birds to play along? Are they not really sick and are just acting?
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Inflamatory!
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Sorry Folks. I was off one week on this up-coming program. It's this coming Tuesday evening. 8pm EDT

All of the local news coverage around my area is already expecting this bird flu to be a done deal. They may state, "IF", but actually are meaning, "WHEN", in fact usually say so. Cinci already had a public volunteers group meeting over the weekend, for new "First Responders" for this supposed crises. About 100 responded, but they'll need closer to 1000, it was stated. Also, those who apply can be sent to other locations in the country. This is already getting out of hand, IMHO!

I'm still saying it will NEVER happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What is the basis for your firm belief that a H5N1 pandemic will "never" happen?
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Nothing is impossible. It is just something�s are more likely then others.
But when our news media has this tendency of only telling us part of the story, thus it makes it hard to determine just what is real and what is not.

I would recommend that you get a book called �Everything You Know Is Wrong� I think you would find it interesting, as it answers many of your questions. This book is a completion of a number different articles by number different authors on old news events. Each of whom provides more information then what was originally offered on TV with their typical in depth 15 to 20 seconds coverage. Thus as you learn more and more facts about some event, quite frequently the official explanation starts sounding weaker and weaker.

For example we are told we have one of the best educational systems in the world but in order to maintain it we must agree to continually spend more and more tax dollars on it. If this is so why then has the illiteracy rate that was 2% in the 1900�s risen to around 30% today? Could it have something to do with what an enlightened individual back then had this to say to his elite friends? Our goal is to educate the public only to that level were they will be able to do the job that they are assigned.

P.S. For those in the Chicago land area the bird show is on at 7:00 PM. (CDST) Now I need to see if my TV still remembers how to receive an over the air signal.
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Common sense, gut feeling, and about 10 psychics who all say, "It won't Mutate."

If it was going to mutate to people and then person to person, then by now it would already have done so - somewhere.

I realize this won't pass muster with YOU, but "frankly my dear, I don't give a d*mn." to paraphrase a famous fella! :wink:
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