Go Back Natural Medicine Talk > Off-topic > Thrifty Living > Financial

Reply
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
� #1
Old 03-18-2010, 09:16 AM
Enlightener
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Out of sight
Posts: 764
liverock will become famous soon enoughliverock will become famous soon enough
Default The Elite Speak - Food Prices to Double in the Next 2 Years?

Pastor Lindsey Williams was a chaplain to the company building the Alaska oil pipeline for over 3 years. During that time he served on the company board in an advisory capacity and got to know some members of the 'Ruling Elite' who attended board meetings.

Eventually, they took him into their confidence about how the 'Elite' plan to bring in The World Government and over the past 35 years he has kept in touch with them. The oldest of these 'Elite' spoke to him recently about the events planned over the next 2 years which included driving down the dollar, so that it could be replaced as the world reserve currency, which would double the price of necessities, such as food.
How they plan that the Healthcare bill will bring in electronic identification and euthanasia among other things and when they plan for the next war.

I think its time for me to get rid of my paper money and buy some silver and gold coins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHMtHvODtoQ&NR=1

One warning-what he has to say is spread over 3 DVD's split over about 25 segments totalling about 4 hours. I got lost trying to get back to where I had left off after watching for an hour and moving to somewhere else.
Reply With Quote
� #2
Old 03-18-2010, 09:49 AM
saved1986's Avatar
Lecturer
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,270
saved1986 will become famous soon enoughsaved1986 will become famous soon enough
Default

I have heard for awhile the dollar will dive so they can bring in a world currency. It is obvious that is what they are doing (collapsing the US dollar). I am a christian and I REC you liverock. Because when I see/hear people arguing about abortion and gay marriage I keep thinking - why not concentrate on what is happening to our nation instead of some petty bullshit that affects very few people. Also, it does not matter who is in the white house: they are just puppets, the puppeteer is the same!
Reply With Quote
� #3
Old 03-18-2010, 03:33 PM
Arrowwind09's Avatar
Standing at the Portal
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: At The Door of Death
Posts: 5,069
Blog Entries: 16
Arrowwind09 will become famous soon enoughArrowwind09 will become famous soon enough
Default

Abortion and homeosexual issues are used to keep the christians too busy to see what is really going on or to keep them divided in issues. It is unfortuanate. If they would really wake up they would be a force to be contended with. But just like most others they are asleep at their own wheel, busy in judgements, condemnations and other fruitless endeavors that wil not save this nation from the fall that is coming.

I have been seeing price rises in the market this past two weeks that startled me. Is it begining now?

I have been tracking Lindsey Williams for about 2 years now.
He is late on his predictions for this past fall where he was predicitng another major crash related to T Bills an Bonds. I don't think he is wrong, just think it has just slowed up... a saving grace period of us and many more I would think that are not ready, but we are getting closer month by month.
__________________
�God is the basis of life, life is the basis of energy, energy is the basis of matter.�... Carey Reams
Visit: www.HealthSalon.org
Reply With Quote
� #4
Old 03-19-2010, 06:06 AM
Lecturer
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Northern Ky.
Posts: 1,918
EarlyBird is on a distinguished road
Angry

With the price of gasoline going up again, it cost more for stores to ship food stuffs,
so what else can we expect? Also, it has been a disaster in some areas of the
country for crops this year - tomatoes for one example - causing their price to rise
out of sight pricewise. The last bag of grapefruit I bought evidently got hit by one
of the freezes as they're horrible.
My friend in AZ said she recently read that there will be uprisings by the public
sometime next year, if not sooner, as well as many people checking out as they
won't be qable to take it anymore. Food banks and Shelters are already in
desperate shape as more and more people are jobless or homeless. Her sources
are advising stocking up on food and necessities both for bartering and for
personal use. Also to keep extra cash on hand in case the banks close for awhile.
China is already dumping Dollars and have been for at least 3 months.
__________________
May you always have..Love to Share, Health to Spare, and Friends that Care!
Reply With Quote
� #5
Old 03-19-2010, 07:53 AM
saved1986's Avatar
Lecturer
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,270
saved1986 will become famous soon enoughsaved1986 will become famous soon enough
Default

Krogers is a F---ing joke. They are so expensive and they ssind when gas hit 4 a gallon that shipping costs caused the prices to go up, but when gas came down, the prices did not. I have also seen grocery prices rise and certain items. I use to get small tins of anchovies for a buck (3 yrs ago) and now they are 1.60$ That is a 60 percent increase in 3 yrs. People laugh at me when I say I buy some organic stuff and I laugh back saying the prices are not much different anymore for much higher quality.
Reply With Quote
� #6
Old 03-19-2010, 11:28 AM
Arrowwind09's Avatar
Standing at the Portal
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: At The Door of Death
Posts: 5,069
Blog Entries: 16
Arrowwind09 will become famous soon enoughArrowwind09 will become famous soon enough
Default

If anyone here has a Winnco supermarket around they are absolutley the cheapest to shop at. Just in case you have not bothered to explore them.

I seem to go through cycles of tension on this issue. I make efforts to keep it out of my mind as it is so depressing, especially when I think of the future for my children. On the other hand I keep working to prepare for what ever may come.

We are in the process of trying to add 2 acres to our land so that each son will inherit 5 acres. My husband says they won't want to live way up here in the god forsaken middle of nowhere. I say that they may have no other choice.

Keeping cash on hand..... I just don't know if that will be any kind of solution....the cash first must be worth something.

I do recommend that if you are thinking of making some purchases of things you really need then make them soon, before things tripple in price.
I am thinking of getting a small pressure cooker to cook all these dried beans I have. It is much more economical in the long run to use a pressure cooker due to the cost of fuel that is saved in shortened cooking time for some foods.

Hyperinflation has been rattled around in the news for a while now. I do think it is coming. I watched all those videos that live rock presented and found little to argue with. Funny, I have always been a liberal but now I find myself way on the right.... a far to the right liberal is really a constitutionalist I think and thats where you meet face to face the far to the right right wingers...... guess they call them libertarian.

The only reason the social programs (welfare, foodstamps, medicare, social security) have drained us it becasue the elite and their forces have been stealing from us for a very very long time and their main tactic is through implementing deregulations of the banking system. One of the final punches was when they stole the election in 2000 and Gore's concept of the social security lock box was lost for ever. This will be an incredible burden on our youth to care for our elderly. They are just not prepared. The elite are the force behind industry leaving the USA... and wake up, this includes Bill and Hiliary. If our industry never left we could support ourselves and many others. But now we are under the control of the WTO and NAFTA and CAFTA. This has been our downfall.

The concept that they use war to make money is not new and they have done it bigtime through these last two wars. Primarily money is not what they want. They want control, and fear is their greatest tactic. There will be more war, you can count on it, and I suspect this time Israel will instigate. Israel is like a loose cannon even to the elite.

One world government is on its way. I don't know if we can save ourselves from it. It is not that a one world government is wrong in concept, it is wrong when you loose jurisdiction of your own back yard. It is wrong when some are slaughterd to maintain others. It is wrong when control it the ultimate goal and weapon. It is wrong when you loose your voice and your ability to fight for yourself. It is wrong whent the media is controlled by those who live and work in realm that you will never be permitted to enter.

The ultimate goal is population reduction, even if it is done though starvation of westernized countries....that means you and me by the way. I keep waiting for Lindsey to say what the ultimate goal of the elites are and he only says control.....but I already know.


Get your gardens ready. Learn to keep chickens. Learn to grow their feed. Keep a goat. Have something to barter.
Reply With Quote
� #7
Old 03-20-2010, 10:07 AM
Lecturer
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Northern Ky.
Posts: 1,918
EarlyBird is on a distinguished road
Lightbulb

I think your plan to add acreage to your land is a great idea, Arrow. Good for you!
Also the purchase of a pressure cooker. I like a crock pot too.
Yes, it IS all very depressing and I too, try not to dwell on it. I do however buy 4
extra packages of TTissue and paper towels every time I go to the store. Granted,
some people will use newspaper, etc. when push comes to shove but it's still a
good possible for barter and needs no refrigeration, etc. Extras can even be stored
in the trunk of a car. I am also making sure I have plenty of batteries of all sizes
that I use. My next buy is going to be extras of the corkscrew light bulbs -Another
barter possible.
Reply With Quote
� #8
Old 03-20-2010, 10:20 AM
Arrowwind09's Avatar
Standing at the Portal
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: At The Door of Death
Posts: 5,069
Blog Entries: 16
Arrowwind09 will become famous soon enoughArrowwind09 will become famous soon enough
Default



I've been thinking a lot about the toilet paper issue this week myself!
I do have a fair amount of room to store it but just how long will twenty or thirty large packages of TP last? and if the boys end up here too?

So this is what I have decided. The next time we go to the city I am going to purchase 6 packs of washcloths maybe 6 or 8 to a pack, all different colors. Each person will be assigned a color. A bucket for them with a lid when used will be placed in the bathroom, kinda like a diaper pail.

They will be washed with bleach or our marvelous sodium chlorite, which actually has a longer shelf life than bleach, or perhaps MMS2, easier to find I think, might work also, Will have to look into it.

I've already stocked up on those yellow rubber gloves.
If there's a will there's a way.
Reply With Quote
� #9
Old 03-20-2010, 10:26 AM
Arrowwind09's Avatar
Standing at the Portal
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: At The Door of Death
Posts: 5,069
Blog Entries: 16
Arrowwind09 will become famous soon enoughArrowwind09 will become famous soon enough
Default

For paper towels I have changed over to Sham Wows... I found a place on the net that sells them pretty cheap....The are quite washable and I use them for dish rags and to dust, and to damp mop the wood floor and I use them until they are about shredded, which takes many months. I'm just trying to get my husband to break the habbit of paper. We use newspaper and vinegar to wash the windows.
Reply With Quote
� #10
Old 03-20-2010, 05:35 PM
Mad Scientest's Avatar
Lecturer
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Illinois
Posts: 1,363
Mad Scientest will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
We use newspaper and vinegar to wash the windows.
What you don�t use a case of windex in aerosol cans and a truck load of paper towels? How primitive. Still there is something to be said about grandma�s old window cleaning methods. They�re cheep and they work!

Quote:
but just how long will twenty or thirty large packages of TP last? and if the boys end up here too?
Here is a tip that I read about on how to reduce TP consumption, particularly for those that like to use half a roll at a time.
First before placing a new roll on the holder set it on the floor and stomp on it to flatten the cardboard core. Now place it on the holder. This makes it difficult for someone to unroll 2 or 3 yards at a time.


As far as stocking up on stuff I do try to have lots of canned food on hand. Beyond that I stock up on tools, particularly ones that are easy to break or that wear out quickly. I found that people have tendency to break things and then they want me to fix them. This morning for example a friend with a small meat market asked me to repair a burned out light fixture in one his display refrigerators. This took a couple hours as I had to rewire the whole thing, but for the effort I came home with 12 pounds of hamburger plus some chicken.
Reply With Quote
� #11
Old 03-20-2010, 09:02 PM
Arrowwind09's Avatar
Standing at the Portal
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: At The Door of Death
Posts: 5,069
Blog Entries: 16
Arrowwind09 will become famous soon enoughArrowwind09 will become famous soon enough
Default

Having a trade you can trade is always a good option.
But none the less, storing beans and rice may pay in the long run.
The survivalist forums are saying that your money is well invested in long term food storage and the investment may double or tripple in value befoe long. Beans is properly sealed will last I am guessing, 100 years or much more.... based on beans that were found in an Anasazi cave dig site. They sprouted and grew well. I got some second generation of them at the time.
Reply With Quote
� #12
Old 03-21-2010, 07:49 AM
jfh jfh is offline
Super Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Texas, USA
Posts: 2,312
Blog Entries: 16
jfh will become famous soon enoughjfh will become famous soon enough
Default

Not very nutritious ingredients; but some of their products are well worth investigating.

https://beprepared.com/Default.asp?bhcd2=1269179163
__________________
-
- Jim
Life is just one damned thing after another - Elbert Hubbard

Reply With Quote
� #13
Old 03-21-2010, 09:55 AM
Arrowwind09's Avatar
Standing at the Portal
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: At The Door of Death
Posts: 5,069
Blog Entries: 16
Arrowwind09 will become famous soon enoughArrowwind09 will become famous soon enough
Default

I have purchased a lot of stuff from them jfh. When I lived in the city they had a store front near me and I would wait for their sales.

And if you live in a city where they have a store front they place sale items in supermarkets and even walmart they have a large display in SLC.

When the crash of Sept 2008 happened I went there the next day, thats when I really entered into food storage seriously and the place was packed as well as another similar store nearby. Quite a few people are taking our economic climate seriously and preparing for whatever might come... but then, I have been living in Mormon land. If the SHTF they are ready... and I didn't want to be begging at their doorsteps, but they are ready for those too, at least in SLC.

I purchased products with a shelf life of at least 5 years that are properly sealed, like beans, rice (white rice and this may end up being a loss in the long run but brown rice does not store for long term) lentils, black beans, dried onions, dried mushrooms, etc. Stuff to make a meal palatible. I do not think that most of what I purchased will be a loss. It gives me emotional security knowing that I have what may be needed for up to two years of economically distressed living.

Many items were marked for 8 or 10 years or more.

I also purchased a hand wheat grinder and stocked sealed buckets of whole red wheat berries. Most of these items will store for much longer than the dates on the package state.

Recently I have been shocked by the rise in the cost of dried beans! I am glad I purchased when I did. Even if your beans are not professionally sealed they will store for many many years if you keep them dry and pests out. I have several buckets that are not hermetically sealed, filled with sale bean items in plastic bags, then I put them in a five gallon bucket with easy twist off bucket lids on, gamma seals, thats what they are called. I also have a few buckets with whole wheat pastas stored the same. Buckets are cheapest at home depot.
Reply With Quote
� #14
Old 03-22-2010, 06:32 AM
Lecturer
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Northern Ky.
Posts: 1,918
EarlyBird is on a distinguished road
Lightbulb

Containers of Laundry Soaps are another possible bartering item. IF you have
storage room that is? They weigh heavy and will certainly be rising in price as
gasoline goes up.
Reply With Quote
� #15
Old 03-22-2010, 11:58 AM
Arrowwind09's Avatar
Standing at the Portal
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: At The Door of Death
Posts: 5,069
Blog Entries: 16
Arrowwind09 will become famous soon enoughArrowwind09 will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EarlyBird View Post
Containers of Laundry Soaps are another possible bartering item. IF you have
storage room that is? They weigh heavy and will certainly be rising in price as
gasoline goes up.
I do not store containers of laundry soap but the ingredients to make my own. My neighbor makes it and sells it already. One gallon provides 90 loads and she sells it for $5 which proves that it is a viable small cottage industry if you want to try it. Costs only pennies to make. a box each of the main dried ingredients and 3 bars of the fels napa will give you probably over 2 years of laundry soap!

Here is our link to the details. It is well worth investigating.
https://www.natmedtalk.com/money-savi...ndry-soap.html
Reply With Quote
Reply Bookmark and Share

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Holy Man Lives 70 Years without Food or Water Arrowwind09 Phenomena & Theories 0 05-18-2010 02:32 PM
100 Years Ago Arrowwind09 Chitchat 1 06-12-2009 08:34 PM
News - Scientists speak on WTC explosive dust Arrowwind09 Phenomena & Theories 5 05-02-2009 11:07 AM
John Lennon 28 years ago Arrowwind09 Chitchat 3 12-09-2008 10:18 PM
Where will Gas Prices end up soon? EarlyBird Financial 34 06-17-2008 12:34 PM