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So ozone made with oxygen is less or non-problematic or body friendly?...I am probably not choosing my words/question correctly....is less likely to harm the human body and more likely to help?
there is a lot of confusion over this topic. Ozone made from pure oxygen is certainly more powerful and with that power comes precautions in administration. Very detailed protocols are written out for a multitude of applications.

We ingest nitrogen gas all the time.. It just should not get into the blood stream in abundance... as in a large bubble.... say over 10 cc. The body will dissipate nitrogen in the circulatory system in time.. its just that a large bubble in the heart can cause a problem



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Originally Posted by cyber-junkie;189654The water ozonator I have is the 1000 mg/h unit shown here...
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The makers say that 5-10 minutes you have fully saturated the water with ozone using their supplied air pump, so using the natural air introduces nitrogen in the water along with ozone? And the nitrogen is/could be harmful?
there will likey be some nitrogen in the water also. Remember the air you breathe is 78% nitrogen and some beers have nitrogen bubbles. I would use the air dryer that is mentioned on that page. nitrous oxide is a whole other issue.. just use the air dryer and it wont be a problem.


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I do think I stirred up something with the ozone water and GSE and may be having a herx reaction as I usually don't smell myself but the last few days I have been from my underarms and my waste has had more odor than normally, what would be the safest enema solution to use? Saline form the drug store, coffee or ozone water made with oxygen?...or would a mineral or dead sea salt water bath be best?
If it were me I would do ozonated water enemas daily but do a coffee enema once or twice a week on days you dont do the ozone enema... don't do it a bedtime though as it will keep you awake. Get some organic coffee just for this purpose. That Gerson site I put in another post tells how to make a coffee enema
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there is a lot of confusion over this topic. Ozone made from pure oxygen is certainly more powerful and with that power comes precautions in administration. Very detailed protocols are written out for a multitude of applications.


We ingest nitrogen gas all the time.. It just should not get into the blood stream in abundance... as in a large bubble.... say over 10 cc. The body will dissipate nitrogen in the circulatory system in time.. its just that a large bubble in the heart can cause a problem




there will likey be some nitrogen in the water also. Remember the air you breathe is 78% nitrogen and some beers have nitrogen bubbles. I would use the air dryer that is mentioned on that page. nitrous oxide is a whole other issue.. just use the air dryer and it wont be a problem.
Where are these "detailed protocols" about the "pure ozone"?

The ozone "tech" I talked with said that only using very humid air would produce the nitric oxide and that usually the dryer is not needed...but I ordered one anyway, will this make sure the ozone produced is cleaner?...is the nitric oxide produced by ozone bad or very bad?
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Old 10-31-2011, 04:17 PM
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Protocols: https://www.o3center.org/Protocols/index.html
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Could these pains be caused by blood poisoning or mercury? I have been using EM a little on my old root canal tooth...could this have spread bacteria or mercury?

The pains are getting a little better each day...I think,...if they are, it's taken the body awhile to move whatever it is out.

If it is a herx reaction, how long "could" it last?
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Old 11-02-2011, 05:21 PM
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I would not be thinking blood poisoning or mercury,,, I would be thinking bowel inflammation, or gas.
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Old 11-10-2011, 03:27 PM
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Arrow do you believe in muscle testing? I was weak for chlorella and surrapeptase, would you keep taking? I can't believe they could hurt...but...goes to show there is no placebo effect here as I thought I would test positive for both.
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I do not give much credence to muscle testing.

In order to do it correctly it takes quite a bit of training and understanding of systems along with a very clear mind without prejudice.

to me, its mostly in voodoo land.

I've only met a couple of people who can really do it...

and Ive seen people take tons of stuff that they tested positive for yet got absolutely no positive effect for... It is often a bogus system of selling products. I had one lady select something for me once and it was a complete waste of money.

Here's your chance to find out for yourself. Take something that you test positive for and see it it helps and take something you test neg for and see what happens.
Serrapeptase helps in many different types of inflammation. Chlorella provides an abundance of nutrients and can also help to detox mercury if you take something else that releases mercury from the cells, then when mercury enters the bowel the chlorella willbind it and take and carry it out. Chlorella is one of the best nutrients one can take. Broken cell wall is best.

Have you started serrapeptase? for how many days and at what dosage? I would give it 10 days at least and if it can be helpful to the guts for you you should be starting to feel a difference by then. What brand are you using?

I try to select things by clinical results that are generally found in the majority.
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Old 11-11-2011, 07:36 AM
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Yes, I have been using the "Doctor's Best" brand, 400 mg So I have been taking 2 or 3 x 2 daily per your recommendation, I am still getting slightly better each day...this DOM seems to be most knowledgeable of the ones I have seen, I took a bunch of supplements to the appointment, most I thought I would test pos. for I did, like the magnesium and potassium, activated charcoal and neem bark extract, but neg. for sodium...go figure right! but the chorella and serrapeptase was a surprise...now she said in two weeks we will re-test and see if the body wants them then, I think I will keep taking them as I don't see any harm they could do and think they may be helping.

On a side note, a different DOM did a hair analysis a little while back, what do you think of them?, this is one of the labs that does Not wash the hair before the test, I think there is science here...anyway I tested pos. for aluminum, now the DOM that had the test done, said that showed the aluminum being excreted from the body (because it showed up in the hair) this new DOM said she doesn't read it like that, only that it is in the body, I am curious because the hair analysis did not show up mercury and I have 7 amalgam fillings and two of them look bad and I believe are leaking...funny nothing showed in the hair, the DOM that did the test said because "you are not releasing it"...will you give me your take on this?
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Because they find metals in your hair that does mean that you are releasing them, though your hair.. but it generally means that you have them in your body elsewhere also.

Mercury filling are all different and it depends on how the dentist prepared them way back when. Some out gas and others dont. some leak mercury into the body and some dont. Some people are highly sensitive to mercury and others arn't
Also, each individual may have an individual capacity to detox mercury.

The metals also may just be lodging somewhere and are not available to come out the hair. The possibilities are endless. These tests can only be guidelines. I certainly would be paying attention to aluminum if it showed up.

If you have developed a protocol for yourself that seems to be working I wouldn't change a thing at this point. what logic would there be to that? Only change things that seem logical to change.

The only thing I question, and I think I would have to know more about it, it the use of charcoal for extended periods of time. Do you think this is OK.? I am only familiar with shorter term use. Have you considered bentonite?
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Bentonite clay? that's a good idea, I have some, had not thought about using it but it does not work or help it should not hurt...correct?
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Activated charcoal is very absorbent and should only be used when necessary. It will absorb nutrients along with toxins. It is capable of absorbing large quantities as well. I only use it when I am nauseated, which is rare. Definitely keep it in your first aid area/medicine cabinet. Remember it when you have eaten spoiled food.
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Dude I'm sorry, but I have chronic pancriantitis and it sounds like you do too.Is the pain worse at night after aeting all day?do you drink or have you ever to excess?A lot of teast may not spot the illness.
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Dude I'm sorry, but I have chronic pancriantitis and it sounds like you do too.Is the pain worse at night after aeting all day?do you drink or have you ever to excess?A lot of teast may not spot the illness.
The pain is not worse at night, or after eating other than my lower intestines emptying into the large and a BM takes care of that, the pain is steady all day. I think this is an infection, it might involve the pancreas but I think mine is all over the abdomen and in my lymph nodes down there, mms is the only thing I have tried that works, it's working slowly but is working.
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Thank god you have found something that seems to be doing it.

For many things people can save themselves a lot of griief if they do a trial of MMS first.
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Thank god you have found something that seems to be doing it.

For many things people can save themselves a lot of griief if they do a trial of MMS first.
I was not a big believer in mms, but I am glad I had some and tried it, Lipo vitamin C (8-10 grams per day) for 2 weeks did not work, nutrasilver at 30-40 drops 2-3 times daily for 2 weeks did not work, mms protocol 1000 (3 drops per hr) for 2 weeks and I could tell, it is working.
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