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Old 05-30-2011, 06:28 PM
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I was doing better after I stopped metronidazol (Monday). by Thursday I felt hunger and ate my bland diet with pleasure.
Friday: knew something was wrong. felt cold inside throughout the day, the temp being low. my left eye hurt like I was getting a migraine.
Saturday: fever up to 101F, very bad shivers. migraine.
Sunday: fever, migraine, diarrhea, and vomiting. I was vomiting by the clock, even pure water. of course I threw up any fever-reducing meds. I suspect the vomiting had a lot to do with the migraine because my mom had the same spasm-like vomiting after her head trauma.

I took anti-nausea suppositories left from when my mom was ill. those helped the nausea. the tylenol suppositories did not help with the fever at all. norco is the only thing that really reduces the fever.

today: diarrhea. my abdomen is very bloated and it always hurts, like there's too much pressure in it. I feel the fever going up as I type.

any ideas at all? could it candida or still c diff?
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I had c. difficile and here's what my naturopath told me to take:

50 drops Grapefruit Seed Extract, 5 drops oregano oil, 5 drops Betaine HCL in water 3 times a day.

After a month of taking this 3x a day every day I was 90% cured, after two months, 100% cured.

It's a very bitter drink but it's nothing compared to symptoms and and danger of the c. diff. Bitter is good! Bitter means killing pathogens.
I am just starting the battle with C-diff. Can you please tell me is there any specific brand of grapefruit seed extract, oregano and Betaine HCL? Where do you find these?
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It is my understanding that c-diff can never be fully erradicated. Few microbes can be fully erradicated. Its just a matter of boosting the immune system and bringing the bacterial load down so the immune system can control it. About 3% of the population naturally has this according to the CDC. Although I think many cases are developed out of the use of antibiotics it suggests that more than 3% of the population carries it. The antibiotics make for it to overgrow. Many cases are now brought about through contagin.. people are being exposed to microbes that they do not have defense against... like ca-mrsa (community acquired), c-diff had ca-c-diff.

I suspect no matter how severe the c-diff toxin is, and there are several c-diff toxins, GSE will take care of it.
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It is not all the same poo in different guts..
are you really going to believe this?

if it were all the same we would all have the same bowel complaints, or not

there are many microbes they do not know how to test for

there are many microbes that come in from foreign nations that are foreign to us

many microbes mutate under the use of drugs...

many microbes adapt to very specific environments... how they gonna match things up?

What about cancer causing microbes.. are they screening for that... of course not... they don't even believe they exist... but most of us here know better.
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Dear lady, I do hope you find a good naturopath to consult with.. In any case I would be on the GSE as soon as possible if it were me.
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It is not all the same poo in different guts..
are you really going to believe this?

if it were all the same we would all have the same bowel complaints, or not

there are many microbes they do not know how to test for

there are many microbes that come in from foreign nations that are foreign to us

many microbes mutate under the use of drugs...

many microbes adapt to very specific environments... how they gonna match things up?

What about cancer causing microbes.. are they screening for that... of course not... they don't even believe they exist... but most of us here know better.
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Dear lady, I do hope you find a good naturopath to consult with.. In any case I would be on the GSE as soon as possible if it were me.
many microbes mutate under the use of drugs...

the life cycle of bacteria is fast and it adapts to the environment it is in..

happydays..when I was being treated, with heavy meds when I was being treated for lymes disease.. I took lacto bacilli.. they keep it in the pharmacy in the fridge.. it worked wonders..
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Old 05-30-2011, 08:24 PM
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Candida does not do this. You better get on some protocol gal. Or you could end up in big trouble. This is nothing to play with.
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Candida does not do this. You better get on some protocol gal. Or you could end up in big trouble. This is nothing to play with.
what do you mean by protocol?
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what about GSE in capsules, you seem to be saying it's ok? after throwing up so much, I doubt I can handle the bitterness.

I'm seeing a diff dr tomorrow, hoping to get in a stool sample. is there anything else I should ask him? I'll be asking for more anti-nausea suppositories. what if he wants to start me on vancomycin?
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what about GSE in capsules, you seem to be saying it's ok? after throwing up so much, I doubt I can handle the bitterness.

I'm seeing a diff dr tomorrow, hoping to get in a stool sample. is there anything else I should ask him? I'll be asking for more anti-nausea suppositories. what if he wants to start me on vancomycin?
Even though it would be better to swallow it--c diff can be in the entire alimentary canal, better to at least get it to your intestines so if you really can't handle the bitterness, I would take capsules. You could even put the drops of GSE and oregano oil into an empty capsule--I do this sometimes for other uses. The Betaine HCL you could just get in tablet form. My protocol (a protocol is just a name for your plan or procedure that you have in place and follow as opposed to just trying things higglety-pigglety or not following your plan carefully) was the grapefruit seed extract, oregano oil and betaine HCL.

I keep reiterating it because it cured me and it's easy (other than the bitterness and making sure you follow it 3x a day every day) and relatively cheap. It would be best to see a naturopath but since you said you can't afford it, this is what my naturopath told me to take and it worked so I'm passing it on. I was able to catch my c.diff early and everyone's different but I think this is a straightforward remedy that would probably work for most people. It would certainly help kill some if not all of the c.diff if you follow it and stay on it. Like Arrowind said, this is serious and antibiotics will just weaken you more.

I was on a c.diff board and I was heart-rending to see all the sick people, most of them on the antibiotic rollercoaster, their doctors would give them one antibiotic after another hoping one would somehow work. Several people were having diarrhea 20 or 30 or even 50 times a day and were so sick and miserable and hopeless. I posted this on the board but unfortunately no one posted that they tried it or if it worked for them. There were less posts after that but that could have been for any reason.
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what does generic vancomycin cost???
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I've been taking GSE drops and doing much better. I am pretty much back to normal--just a bit weak.

I also got VSL#3 as suggested in another thread.
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Great to hear! Just don't make the mistake of stopping because you feel better. Make sure it's COMPLETELY gone. You don't want to be left with a harder to get rid of strain which is what could happen if you stop treatment too early.
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you can take 50,000 IU daily for a week then reduce to 5,000 IU daily.. Some people take 50,000 IU every 10 days which is OK probably. I just find that I do better on a daily 5,000 IU, and if I should get sick then I take 50,000 IU 3 x day for 3 days. Dont worry about over dosing .... all those ideas have been blown. ... granted you would not want to take 50,000 IU daily forever though.

Glad you are doing better. I suggest that you take that GSE for at least 2 months... three wont hurt.
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I know this is an old post but I wanted to reply and thank everyone for the helpful information. I contacted a mild case of c-diff after a visit to a hospital. I was bitten by a cat and developed cellulitis. I was in the hospital for three days of IV antibiotics.

After researching, I have decided not to take the Metronidazole that was prescribed to me. Instead, I'm taking grapefruit seed extract and oregano oil as suggested by U&iraok as well as probiotics. I plan to add the D3, curcumin and inulin. Thank you all for your helpful suggestions.
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