Hey Guys,

I had an interesting thought, and I don't know if anyone here has any experience with it, or knows a reason not to.

I had a brain fart this morning lol

You know with the holidays coming up we all need ways to shed those extra treats after, so I was thinking, what if someone subsisted purely on vitamins (Like Centrum A-Z) and those Diet Drinks (like Ensure, you know the ones that say drink a glass of that instead of a meal). So my question is this:

If you took those vitamins and did the drink thing 3 times a day instead of 2, and ate nothing else, do you think you could run into problems health wise? (Obviously this would be a VERY short term plan max of a month).

That might be good for a fast, but vitamins are co-enzymes. They don't work by themselves. Co-enzymes cause enzymes to react to nutrients. Enzymes either break down or combine such cells/nutrients. So taking vitamins without food is useless.

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The scary thing is I think you're serious...

NO NO NO, it is a HORRIBLE idea.

Those diet drinks are loaded with GMOs, toxic tap water, refined sugar, harmful man-made chemicals, and probably artificial sweeteners. The average vitamin/mineral supplement is actually harmful for your health because it uses synthetic, isolated chemicals, and derives those chemicals from things like petroleum, tar, and even sewage sludge.

For example, cyanocobalamin is the most common form of vitamin b12 in supplements; the cobalamin comes from refined sewage and it's stabilized by cyanide. If you want to get any nutrients out of it your body first has to neutralize the cyanide, then pilfer all of the rest of the nutrients necessary to make vitamin b12 work from other areas in the body.

If you want to lose weight so badly, do a juice fast. Colon cleanses + colonics can also make you lose from 5 to 15 pounds, on average, of stored fecal matter and are very beneficial for health. But please learn about all of the harmful effects of most "foods". What the average person eats shouldn't even be called "food" at all, that's one reason people are getting so many degenerative diseases today.

You've got to be kidding?
a sure pathway to an early chronic disease and death.

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There would be nothing wrong with fasting for a few days.

You would still need your daily nutrients, including vitamins, minerals (all 60), amino acids, and fatty acids, and you won't find any of these in the proper form or optimal amount in centrum A-Z.

You were right though... it was a brain fart idea..

Gee, thanks for the support A simple "No" would have sufficed lol.

But fasting for a few days while taking these two things in tandum would be better than fasting for a few days without taking them right?


I guess I want to know just how "healthy" these supposed "health" supplements are for you.

Cutting simple carbs, adding fat and walking would be superior, and not leave you hungry or cranky.

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I'd rather meander for the prevention than race for the cure.

Didnt a wife of a famous rockstar try to live like this,taking pills and supplements without eating real food, and eventually she died??? i think but im not sure...

I think the key to that is the "pills" probably weren't health supplements..

Many rock stars and famous people live in "drug" diets. Cocaine and marijuana help people lose weight a lot (well for marijuana you need to avoid the munchies) However, obviously these are not a good way to go because of course it causes problems and can lead to an untimely demise.

I know from experience that marijuana makes you lose weight and when you are a heavy user the moment you get the munchies is the moment you roll another joint and so you do not eat, you just constantly smoke...Soooo unhealthy...

But its weird i remember i could be really hungry at times and if id roll another joint and smoke it the hunger feeling would go away for some time, and eventually after 3-4-5 joints you would get up all messed up and starwing and eat whatever you can eat at that moment, no cooking or preparing just take-open-eat,quick and then, roll again...im so glad that period of my life is over

I used to use marijuana daily, but it was at most 2 joints (one in the morning, one in the evening)

Never got to the whole "keep rolling rolling rolling, keep those doobies rolling"... I think part of the reason is I never learned how to roll lol, I always had to use a pipe. I couldn't roll at all, which actually was probably a good thing as I probably would have used a lot more if I had been able to roll.

But yes, I miss it some days, but most I don't. My life was really empty at that point anyway, and now I have it pretty good, so no reason to go and dive back into a hole if you know what I mean.

Well, see, that is my big question. You eat a balanced diet. The balanced diet includes X amount of these vitamins and minerals, and proteins... So, if you got this same amount through vitamins and supplements, isn't it the same thing minus the calories?

THAT is my big question.

Living foods has phytonutrients that has only relatively recently been discovered. Its the phytonutrients that really keep you healthy. Of course you need minerals and vitamins too but its the phytonutrients that are also essential.. meaning you must eat them to be healthy. You will find next to none in a can of ensure. Only real vegetables and herbs can provide them. Ensure will have soy phytonutrients that are not all that healthy to take on a daily basis unless you have a health issue that requires them.

A can on ensure is dead and if you drink it long enough you will be dead. And for a fast, you will not detox one dam thing drinking that stuff. It will not open the pathways of detoxification.

Provided grains are not considered a food group and dairy is either limited or eliminated, then yes.

To some extent grains are needed though right? Although I was reading somewhere that Gluten is not really your friend..

I wish I could find the article on that right now... I'll probably be able to dig it up at some point...

A gluten free diet would be ideal for just about anyone.. But man... I like to have a sandwich now and then, and of course I love burritos, and pretty much any kind of wrap...