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Newbie to the forum. Have recently started with Lugols. Does anyone have a list of the detoxing effects of iodine supplementation? I have read a little on the body ridding itself of Florine and Bromine as the iodine replaces it. Haven't really found much info on the symptoms of the detox. Thanks and what a great source of info this site is.

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Bromide detox will sometimes result in a skin rash as the chemical has an affinity for the skin. When this happens some people get fearful that this is an allergic reaction to iodine but it isn't. That bromide needs to come out and it will come out the closest avenue, which is the skin, for detox
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As Arrowwind says, bromine displacement will probably be your worse detox. Don't worry. It goes away. You get bromine mostly from bread products. Bakers use it. There are a couple of bread makers that specifically indicate there are no bromates in their bread.

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When it comes to autoimmune thyroid disease, Hashimoto's disease, which usually results in hypothyroidism, is the far more common than Graves' disease, which causes hyperthyroidism. At some stages of Hashimoto's disease, however, and in particular, often during the early stages, the thyroid that is in the process of autoimmune failure may actually spurt into action and become temporarily overactive, making a person hyperthyroid. Sometimes, it's the temporary hyperthyroidism symptoms -- anxiety, heart palpitations, fast pulse, weight loss, diarrhea, insomnia -- that first bring a Hashimoto's patient to the doctor. Unfortunately, some doctors run just the thyroid bloodwork for TSH, see the low TSH that is characteristic of hyperthyroidism, and recommend radioactive iodine treatment -- a usually permanent treatment that permanently disables the thyroid, and renders the patient hypothyroid for life. The problem is, the patient doesn't suffer form Graves' disease and the hyperthyroidism is just temporary "Hashitoxicosis" -- and the patient is ultimately on his or her way to becoming hypothyroid. In some cases, then, unless the hyperthyroidism was life-threatening and uncontrollable using drugs, the expensive radiation treatment -- whose side effects are still being debated -- is needless administered.
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Did you know that in California, foods made with bromates have to carry a health warning? The warning: "WARNING: This product contains chemicals, known to the State of California to cause cancer" has to be on the label. Prop 65. Because most bakeries do not want to put that warning on their baked goods, they now use non bromated flour. I also found that Pillsbury doesn't bromate their super market flour anymore and King Author never did.

I was also wondering about the use of tea as it relates to fluoride. I drink a lot of green and white tea. Does anyone have any info on those with relation to fluoride? I am thinking I should reduce my consumption or eliminate them altogether.

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You know that in California, foods made with bromates have to carry a health warning? The warning: "WARNING: This product contains chemicals, known to the State of California to cause cancer" has to be on the label. Because most bakeries do not want to put that warning on their baked goods, they now use non bromated flour.
That is great news. I wish other states would do the same. I have only found one bread maker that even puts "NO BROMATES" prominently on their label. I assumed other makers still used it. Long ago, bread makers would put iodine in their bread. Then iodine phobia occurred. A couple of years ago, I read where one province in Australia was requiring that iodine be added back to bread. So someone in the world has sense.
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Did you know that in California, foods made with bromates have to carry a health warning? The warning: "WARNING: This product contains chemicals, known to the State of California to cause cancer" has to be on the label. Prop 65. Because most bakeries do not want to put that warning on their baked goods, they now use non bromated flour. I also found that Pillsbury doesn't bromate their super market flour anymore and King Author never did.
So is standard flour that one purchases in a grocery store bromated? or is the bromate something that bakers add themselves?
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I was also wondering about the use of tea as it relates to fluoride. I drink a lot of green and white tea. Does anyone have any info on those with relation to fluoride? I am thinking I should reduce my consumption or eliminate them altogether.

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My understanding is fluorine based pesticides are what accounts for the fluorine in green tea. Organic would be preferred. Fluorine is also very popular for tobacco crops. Any wonder why smokers are more prone to certain types of cancer? Fluorine figures prominently in multiple myloma, otherwise known as blood or bone marrow cancer. Geraldine Ferraro had this hideous disease.


Just to clear up a few definitions on iodine solutions:

SSKI; super saturated potassium iodide is 40mg potassium iodide in 28ml solution.

Lugol's solution is potassium iodide and elemental iodine 2 to 1, respectively. In a 28ml solution that would be approximately 2.36mg KI with 1.47mg iodine for an approximate 7% Lugol's solution.
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So is standard flour that one purchases in a grocery store bromated? or is the bromate something that bakers add themselves?
It is a dough conditioner, and I believe it comes in the flour. Funny, but iodine was used before.
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My understanding is fluorine based pesticides are what accounts for the fluorine in green tea. Organic would be preferred. Fluorine is also very popular for tobacco crops. Any wonder why smokers are more prone to certain types of cancer? Fluorine figures prominently in multiple myloma, otherwise known as blood or bone marrow cancer. Geraldine Ferraro had this hideous disease.
Plants have an affinity to certain elements and metals. Beets and spinach have an affinity to iron. Celery to sodium. Walnut hulls iodine. Seaweeds - many metals. Tea is a natural bioaccumulator of fluoride and aluminum. The earth's crust has a lot of aluminum, so it's hard to avoid that.

Old tea leaves contain as much as 10 times more fluoride than the younger green and white leaves. It gets it naturally from the soil, air, water. It might get it unnaturally as well.
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Interesting, thanks.

Oh, those recipes above are grams, not mg, sorry.

40gr KI w/28ml h20 for sski.

In a 28ml solution that would be approximately 2.36gm KI with 1.47gm iodine for an approximate 7% Lugol's solution.
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