Advertised on CoasttoCoastam radio show

kind2creatures · � #1 � 01-14-2012, 07:51 PM

I've been hearing this supplement advertised on the coasttocoastam radio show with George Noory. It's called Carnivora, and I was wondering if anyone has used this or has any opinions about it. https://www.carnivora.com/about-carnivora.html

saved1986 · � #2 � 01-14-2012, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kind2creatures

I've been hearing this supplement advertised on the coasttocoastam radio show with George Noory. It's called Carnivora, and I was wondering if anyone has used this or has any opinions about it. https://www.carnivora.com/about-carnivora.html

I am going to give this supplementy a thumbs down. Quercitin is widely available in yellow onions and red wine, the rest of the nutrients were primarily amino acids (protein). I would say overrated. (my opinion only)

jfh · � #3 � 01-15-2012, 09:50 AM

It is not unusual for me to agree with Saved, and do yet again. I want to add that this is a natural substance that is manufactured solely by one company. The hype is outrageous.

There may very will be some advantage to the venus flytrap. I have heard so before. But $40 for 100 caps, and they don't say how many to take. That is a bit much for so little info and uniqueness.

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Available scientific evidence does not support the health claims made for Venus flytrap extract. Plumbagin, a substance found in many plants, is thought to be the active ingredient in the Venus flytrap. The plant also contains other compounds such as flavonoids, acids, and enzymes (digestive proteins).

Most of the studies done on the herbal extract were conducted by the physician who patented the drug Carnivora, who also has a large financial stake in a clinic that administers the drug and in the company that manufactures the drug.

An animal study conducted in India to study the effects of plumbagin (taken from the Indian medicinal plant Plumbago rosea) combined with radiation therapy was inconclusive. A second animal study in India found that plumbagin demonstrated a small degree of antitumor activity. The results of several other studies from India were positive but inconclusive. A laboratory study in Japan indicated that plumbagin had some effect against intestinal tumors, and other laboratory studies show that plumbagin can induce cell death Although animal and laboratory studies show promise, further studies are necessary to determine whether the results apply to humans. It is important to remember that purified compounds such as plumbagin are not the same as the fresh plant extract, and study results would not be likely to show the same effects.
https://www.cancer.org/Treatment/Trea.../venus-flytrap

saved1986 · � #4 � 01-16-2012, 01:01 PM

Thank you JFH I also thing that increasing one's red wine intake and cooking more with yellow onions would be more enjoyable.

Thrasymachus · � #5 � 01-18-2012, 10:57 PM

Thrasymachus from East of the Rockies, must point out that Coast to Coast AM also has lots of stupid talk about UFOs and other whackjob stuff. Sometimes they have respectable shows, but overall I think it is a credible as Alex Jones. I would not trust their advertisers.

knightofalbion · � #6 � 01-19-2012, 03:59 PM

Never heard of it! Though I was amused to hear Jim's astonishment at the price of it. Since the new herbal licensing laws came into force here in the UK - as predicted - prices have soared. (The equivalent of) $30/$40 is commonplace. I never use herbal products now...Plus, many of the old herbal formulas we grew up with are no longer on sale.

The biggest irony, the nutritional supplement companies get their herbs from a registered license holder (and sell them on) because they can't afford to buy their own license!
Guess who owns the licenses! Yes, companies affiliated to the pharmaceutical companies...

jfh · � #7 � 01-19-2012, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by knightofalbion

Since the new herbal licensing laws came into force here in the UK - as predicted - prices have soared. (The equivalent of) $30/$40 is commonplace. I never use herbal products now

This is bad to hear, as I suspect the same will be true here and everywhere herbs are censored. It is also too bad that we cannot successfully grow many of these herbs at home. Soil and climate have a huge impact on the health benefits of many herbs. For example the difference of ginseng growing in different countries. And the difference between Chinese and American licorice root. Many others.

knightofalbion · � #8 � 01-21-2012, 04:03 PM

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This is bad to hear, as I suspect the same will be true here and everywhere herbs are censored. It is also too bad that we cannot successfully grow many of these herbs at home. Soil and climate have a huge impact on the health benefits of many herbs. For example the difference of ginseng growing in different countries. And the difference between Chinese and American licorice root. Many others.

Yes, they got it passed on the grounds that herbs are medicines and should be safety tested - fair enough. But the requirement was for each product to be licensed - fair enough again. But the licenses cost, I understand, around �50,000.
So a small family firm producing a humble range of say a dozen herbs and herb mixture products was faced with a bill of around �600,000! (About a million $) to stay in business. Of course they couldn't possibly do that.
So, most herbal companies have gone out of business, the range of herbal products available has considerably decreased and what remains has rocketed in price.
For example, last year 120 echinacea tablets from Europe's number one supplement company cost �7.95. Today they cost �19.90 (That's around $34 in American money)
That is what it means on the ground. So dear Americans fight any proposals to introduce similar proposals in your country tooth and nail.

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