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My husband who is suffering an extremely life-threatening illness (metastatic melanoma Stage IV with secondaries in liver, lungs, bones, chest wall and groin lymph nodes) has upped the ante on taking MMS.

Initially he was trying hard to get to 15 drops x 2 times daily, but after hearing about the young Australian lady with the metastatic breast cancer who is taking the drops on the hour, he is now taking 9 drops x 6 times daily (every 2 hours) with food in between the doses (on the other hour). Today is his 2nd day on this regimen.

He is still vomiting occasionally, diarrhoea several times during the day, but his main complaint is that as soon as he takes his drops with citric acid and fresh apple juice, his stomach immediately bloats up. He tries to burp, but sometimes this doesn't happen and/or doesn't help.

We were wondering if anyone else is finding this, and what would be a good antidote for this?

Please advise.

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When I first started using MMS, bloating would occur in my intestines. I attributed this to die off of toxic pathogens. Who knows? I was able to relieve this with 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in a glass of water. The alkalizing effect might have fixed the problem; or patience and time might have fixed it. Never the less, I felt that it helped.
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Wouldn't the baking soda`neutralize the acid and stop the MMS from working to some degree?

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Janette,

I don't know what to say. I have had a little bloating and belching with mms but not to this degree..

I don't know if baking soda will inactivate mms. That is a chemical equation that should be explored expecially since some people are using baking soda as part of their cancer treatment.

I would be concerned that so much bloating may interfere with digestion of his food. You do need to have good food too.

Seems you guys are on your own. It is uncharted territory. He might try taking some of the mms in the middle of the night. waking up to take it and then sleeping through some of the symptoms if possible, just in order to give him some regular time during the day for eating. If he could take a dose before bed and then one at about 1 or 2 am and one less dose in the day it might give him some time when the stomach does not feel so bad. breakfast could become his main and most important meal moving the juices and salads to that time of day. and then hoping for the best the rest of the day.

It seems that these symptoms should pass in a while.

You might also try taking a couple of doses with lime juice instead of citric acid to see if it makes a difference.

Jim is experimenting with using mms by IV. Hmm.............

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I seem to remember Jim saying that you can deactivate MMS by taking a little orange juice, or Vitamin C....but it might be best to look that up first.

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That is correct. Ascorbic acid will deactivate the process of MMS. Still not sure about baking soda. I'm hoping that the CLO2 is already in the bloodstream by the time I take it. I only occasionally take it. I alway wait 2 hours before taking anything; including food.
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Dear Forum Members

Many thanks for your replies. Thanks Arrow for your welcome suggestions. We will go back to the lime juice and see if that helps at all with the bloating. He is trying the bicarb of soda too when necessary with the vomiting.

I have spoken to Jim Humble about the IV MMS and we are currently trying to find an alternate health professional who is willing to give this a go in our neck of the woods. Jim will kindly lead them through the steps if necessary by phone.

My husband is such an inspiration and he will not just lie down and cop it. Conventional cancer treatment was unable to help him 5 years ago, and we feel that in itself was a blessing, which led us to finding out about many natural remedies. However, the cancer wasn't beaten, just dormant, and now has reared its ugly head.

I hope that by keeping everyone abreast of what is happening to him with this protocol that many others will find inspiration to defeat their own illness and give hope for a future of health and well being.

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Hi Janette,
I have been getting bloated using MMS and wondering why, then just found this thread https://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1078025
(this link gives lots of helpful input from MMS users).

I also broke out in a frustrating skin rash, mainly legs and arms, which could be related to citric acid. I started the MMS with lemon juice, first few days and did not notice bloating, but then changed to citric acid and bloat every time, have tried 15 drops then back down to 6 drops and still bloating. I usually have very strong digestion but don't take citric acid normally, so the above forum link was very helpful to me.

I will start using apple cider vinegar as an activator as I have not experienced any bloating from ingesting apple cider vinegar before. Or try using lime or lemon juice again.

I did a double dose (15 drops x2 in 1 hour) and had extreme diarrhea and extreme vomiting, which to me are signs of overdose and toxic shock. Felt like I needed to go to hospital, then after 3 hours my wife remembered reading about taking a dose of vitamin c to neutralise the effects of the MMS or rather chlorine dioxide shock. It worked within a few minutes, and I recovered within a few hours.

Also, since not consuming any citric acid for 20 hours now, my itching skin rash has calmed down considerably.

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opmaced,

Wow, thanks for the cure zone link. I had no clue citric acid is made from sugar using mold! Although, since MMS kills mold (fungus) maybe it doesn't have an affect on the body!? Hmmm, think I'll stick with Bragg's ACV. Organic ACV contains malic acid which is an antifungal! Could it be that the rash you are experiencing is from some sort of detox reaction from the die off process? Jim did say the citric acid get's "deeper" and works faster than ACV, lime or lemon juice. I think I'm even more confused now! I recently purchased citric acid but have not used it yet. I certainly don't want to put mold in my body. Maybe it's like the NSC Beta Glucan product I use. It is made from the wall of brewers yeast although it doesn't actually have any yeast in the finished product. Not sure what to think!

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Sally, my opinion is that the chlorine dioxide would kill any mold that could possibly be present, although I'm not sure there is any.
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Hi Sally B and Arrow,

The citric acid I have been using is supposed to be made from lemons, so not a mold base, what I am saying is more to do with food intolerance, and it seems for me that by taking citric acid with the MMS drops has created an intolerable level for my body, thus the following symptoms of bloating, diarrhea, dandruff, inflamed skin with excessive itching, stiff neck muscles. And it is a fairly rare food intolerance.
See: https://www.foodreactions.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2346
and https://www.foodreactions.org/intolerance/index.html

My rash actually started from a swim in the ocean 7 days ago. I think i was stung by "little mauve stinger' tentacles floating in the rough surf. My wife was also stung, her stings are hardly itchy and no swelling at all, and she has very soft and sensitive skin. My stings flared up, became swollen and started to blister as well as extremely itchy. I have been a surfer and avid gardener and my skin is pretty tough, and I have never had such a strong reaction to any stings before.

I kept using the MMS protocol with citric acid and noticed within the hour that my rash would flare up, get very red and itchy. After researching and finding the info about citric acid and food intolerance, I stopped using it in the MMS protocol. I did not itch for 20 hours and did not bloat and my dandruff cleared up and my stiff neck muscles softened. So I am fairly sure that I have an intolerance to citric acid, when taking it with the MMS drops.

And by the way, if you look at this list of what citric acid is added to in foods, no wonder food intolerance happens: https://www.foodstandards.gov.au
It is basically a food flavour enhancer (E330 / 330) and preservative and normally not regarded as unsafe, but too much in your system can cause reactions.

I am now using apple cider vinegar (health food quality, unpasteurised etc.) with the MMS drops and so far (3 days) no bloating etc. and my rash has been clearing since stopping the citric acid. So I don't think this is a detox reaction. I have been living a very healthy lifestyle for over 30 years with no major debilitating diseases, no pharmaceutical medications and basically no illness. I am highly aware and sensitive to what enhances my health and what does not eg. pollutants, chemicals, molds, lack of exercise, negative worldview, negative feelings, excessive stress, unbalanced relationships etc............

And the MMS protocol is definitely enhancing my health eg. clearer thinking, more energy throughout the whole day, don't get sleepy after eating main meal, more bowel movements, deeper sleep with memory of dreams, more physical stamina, loss of excess weight, more heat tolerance, and a stronger sense of seeking out what really is true and what is not!!!

Hope this is helpful, cheers.
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Doug Kaufmann says that food allergies and sensitivities are caused from fungus!

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Hi Sally B,

Thanks for the link..... digging further here is another link on 'causes' of illness: https://www.healingcancernaturally.co...of-cancer.html

Have spent hours perusing this site and I think there's lots of causes for lots of reasons!

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Hi Janette
Have you tried Laetrile, which is found in Apricot kernels. I have read many great reports about the way it arrests and reduces cancer. try laetrile.com.au .
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Dear Forum

My husband who is suffering an extremely life-threatening illness (metastatic melanoma Stage IV with secondaries in liver, lungs, bones, chest wall and groin lymph nodes) has upped the ante on taking MMS.

Initially he was trying hard to get to 15 drops x 2 times daily, but after hearing about the young Australian lady with the metastatic breast cancer who is taking the drops on the hour, he is now taking 9 drops x 6 times daily (every 2 hours) with food in between the doses (on the other hour). Today is his 2nd day on this regimen.

He is still vomiting occasionally, diarrhoea several times during the day, but his main complaint is that as soon as he takes his drops with citric acid and fresh apple juice, his stomach immediately bloats up. He tries to burp, but sometimes this doesn't happen and/or doesn't help.

We were wondering if anyone else is finding this, and what would be a good antidote for this?

Please advise.

Kind regards
Janette
Janette,

I had the same issue when I used citric acid. It was improved when I used real limes or lemons. The citric acid also tastes beyond horrid. I had a hard time keeping it down, because of the taste alone. I prefer the limes, but that is just me.

Anita
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