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September 11, 2011 marks the 10th anniversary of the events in New York and Washington that have played a dramatic role in modern history. These events have provided a pretext for a War on Terror that has replaced the Cold War as a global conflict framework within which military invasions and occupations have taken place, as well as violations of international law and human rights and a widespread assault on the civil rights crucial to democracies. Global military spending, which began a rapid downswing after the end of the Cold War, has, with the help of the official account of the 9/11 attacks, risen to Cold War levels and continues to rise. The focus on military solutions to complex human problems has sidetracked humanity at the very moment when international cooperation is most required to address genuine challenges that humanity faces.

In the meantime, the credibility of the official reports on the 9/11 attacks (by the 9/11 Commission, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the National Institute of Standards and Technology, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and other government or government-appointed agencies) has been questioned by millions of citizens in the United States and abroad, including victim family members, expert witnesses and international legal experts.

The International Center for 9/11 Studies has therefore decided to sponsor four days of International Hearings in the city of Toronto, Canada on the 10th anniversary of the events of September 11, 2001. During these Hearings, which will be broadcasted via the Internet, various expert witnesses will present the best available evidence into the case, discovered in the ten years since the 9/11 events occurred.

Objectives of the Hearings:

(1) To present evidence that the U.S. government�s official investigation into the events of September 11, 2001, as pursued by various government and government-appointed agencies, is seriously flawed and has failed to describe and account for the 9/11 events.

(2) To single out the most weighty evidence of the inadequacy of the U.S. government�s investigation; to organize and classify that evidence; to preserve that evidence; to make that evidence widely known to the public and to governmental, non-governmental and inter-governmental organizations.

(3) To submit a record and a summary of the Hearings, together with signed Statutory Declarations by witnesses, to relevant governments, groups and international agencies with the request that a full and impartial investigation be launched into the events of September 11, 2001, which have been used to initiate military invasions and to restrict the rights of citizens.

(4) To engage the attention of the public, the international community and the media through witness testimony as well as through media events broadcasted via the Internet during the four day event.
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I hope this get the coverage that it deserves. So far all I�ve seen is promos for come out and show your respect for the victims. Which is fine but a greatest tribute for them would be to find out what really happen the day.

The following is a �letter-to-the-editor� of local paper that I sent the other week. I�ve had a good track record of getting my letters published in the past, but this one maybe just a little too strong for them.


It has been a few years now since 911 so what have we learned since then?
We are told a plane(s) was flown into a building and the burning jet fuel melded the steel support columns causing the building to collapse. A nice simple explanation provided you don�t start asking questions.

For one jet fuel is basically kerosene, a low grade fuel, which under ideal conditions burns at about 1800 degrees, yet to melt steel we need around 2800 degrees, where did this extra heat come from?

Or what is the likelihood that all the support columns were uniformly heated so that they all failed at the same time allowing the top of the building to fall straight down?

How come the undamaged lower floors offered little resistance to the collapsing buildings?

What a stroke of luck for the investigators to be able to identify the terrorists by finding in the debris one their passports that magically survived all that fire and destruction.

We were told they were Saudi�s nationals, so why did we invade Iraqi?

What are the odds of transponders in four different planes be turned off almost simultaneously, very close to Washington, and yet no fighters were scrambled to investigate?

Experienced airline pilots have stated that they would have difficulty performing some of the complex maneuvers of the hijacked jets. So how was it that terrorists who could barely fly a Cessna were up to the task?


How come a number of first responders swear seeing and hearing multiple ground level explosions in both towers before their collapse and why are they being excluded from the memorial ceremony?

How come many reputed architects and engineers are adamant that the �official story�, of burning jet fuel, simply does not explain the collapse of the
TwinTowers as well as the collapse of building 7, which was not even hit by a jet?

Over at the Pentagon prior to 911 Rumsfeld had a news conference where he mentioned that they had a small accounting problem in that they had lost track of a few trillion dollars. Guess what part of the pentagon that those records just happened to be keep in along with all the people that knew what they contained.


These are just some of the questions I would like to see answered. Now that would be a truly fitting tribute to those that died that day.

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I feel so sad for all the people that died in that tradgedy, but I have always felt that there is something suspect about the whole thing,There was a young Australian man being interviewed about his ordeal while escaping one of the buildings and he said he could hear the explosions comming down through the building.
And did they find any of the pieces of plane that hit the pentagon?
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Oh they did find bit and pieces of aircraft parts but it was said that the majority of the plane was burned up in the extremely hot fire and there was little left to identify it. However they were able to identify the passengers from their fingerprints! ??????

A CNN reporter that was one of the first on the scene told of seeing a small hole in the wall and very little wreckage. About a year latter the same reporter was saying there was a large hole and wreckage scattered all over. Which is the correct story and why did it change?

This was supposedly a large twin engine aircraft coming in at ground level with a wing span greater then the distance between some of the lamp poles in it path, yet it managed not to hit them.

One would expect that the two large and heavy engines would have punched two holes into the building. I have seen a picture of a mechanic who was standing on a stepladder working inside the air intake on a similar engine, yet they apparently just bounced off. Meanwhile the relatively fragile tin can of the fuselage manages to punch its way through the wall and then the engines were supposed sucked in after it?

And of course a building with probably more security cameras then one can imagine and still we do not have a single picture of the plane.
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All of this is for the original 9/11 tragedy....it's in the past!
I have for at least a bit over a week, had a feeling of doom & great sadness & anxiety. And now we
have news of another possible terror attack of New York &/or Washington.
Thus I'm Not surprised about this news.
I just pray that it doesn't materialize.
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Clearly the American people are largely hypnotized and mind controlled.
And it astounds me that they believed they could get away with it...
well, so far they have... and they would not have persued it if they did not
believe that they could get away with it.

which says a hell of alot about the controllers view of the mind state of the American people.

The collapse of Building number seven is clearly above a beyond all doubt the result of a controlled demolition... as no plane even touched it.

I cannot wave flags for the troops... although I regret that they sacrifice much for TPTB, I do not view them as sacrificing for me or my family. They are douped like all the rest and they need to wake up.

I would support a military coup though, to restore our constitution and boot out all the corrupt politicians. This might make our flag worthy again of my respect, for a flag with no legal and enforced constitution behind it is a foul symbol at best... that has been responsible for the shedding of blood of our troops and countless civilians around the world for naught but tyranny.
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Clearly the American people are largely hypnotized and mind controlled.
And it astounds me that they believed they could get away with it...
well, so far they have... and they would not have persued it if they did not
believe that they could get away with it.

which says a hell of alot about the controllers view of the mind state of the American people.

The collapse of Building number seven is clearly above a beyond all doubt the result of a controlled demolition... as no plane even touched it.

I cannot wave flags for the troops... although I regret that they sacrifice much for TPTB, I do not view them as sacrificing for me or my family. They are douped like all the rest and they need to wake up.

I would support a military coup though, to restore our constitution and boot out all the corrupt politicians. This might make our flag worthy again of my respect, for a flag with no legal and enforced constitution behind it is a foul symbol at best... that has been responsible for the shedding of blood of our troops and countless civilians around the world for naught but tyranny.
I agree totally Arrowwind, I don't believe in wars, they dont solve anything, just create more problems.

Madscientist I also would have thought that there would have been more damage with the planes hitting the pentagon, after watching a documentary on 9-11
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Clearly the American people are largely hypnotized and mind controlled.
And it astounds me that they believed they could get away with it...
well, so far they have... and they would not have persued it if they did not
believe that they could get away with it.

which says a hell of alot about the controllers view of the mind state of the American people.

The collapse of Building number seven is clearly above a beyond all doubt the result of a controlled demolition... as no plane even touched it.

I cannot wave flags for the troops... although I regret that they sacrifice much for TPTB, I do not view them as sacrificing for me or my family. They are douped like all the rest and they need to wake up.

I would support a military coup though, to restore our constitution and boot out all the corrupt politicians. This might make our flag worthy again of my respect, for a flag with no legal and enforced constitution behind it is a foul symbol at best... that has been responsible for the shedding of blood of our troops and countless civilians around the world for naught but tyranny.
I agree totally Arrowwind, I don't believe in wars, they dont solve anything, just create more problems.

Madscientist I also would have thought that there would have been more damage with the planes hitting the pentagon, after watching a documentary on 9-11
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I do believe that many who enlist in the military do so for all the right reasons and do think they are protecting the country. But do we need to be afraid that Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc. might they send their armies over here to attack us? If they were to try do you think we might be able to repel them? So what has been gained by invading these countries?

Both leaders of Iraq and Libya were talking about selling their oil for gold rather then accepting our worthless fiat dollars. Iran is also making similar noises. This was unacceptable to the world bankers and a series of events were set in motion so that these “evil” dictators could be removed.

In Afghanistan we were concerned about the money from the heroin production falling into the wrong hands. But not to worry with our troops there protecting the poppy fields production has soared and all the money is now flowing through the CIA to bankers. Along with a lot of the money generated from our so called war on drugs.

Meanwhile we are being told we have to give up our freedoms to be protected from terrorists and lately I’ve been seeing a number of reports that there could be a terrorist attack around 911. Could the powers-that-be already have set a new terrorist attack into motion? If by chance there is just keep an open mind when listening to the “official story”.
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I hope this get the coverage that it deserves. So far all I�ve seen is promos for come out and show your respect for the victims. Which is fine but a greatest tribute for them would be to find out what really happen the day.

The following is a �letter-to-the-editor� of local paper that I sent the other week. I�ve had a good track record of getting my letters published in the past, but this one maybe just a little too strong for them.


It has been a few years now since 911 so what have we learned since then?
We are told a plane(s) was flown into a building and the burning jet fuel melded the steel support columns causing the building to collapse. A nice simple explanation provided you don�t start asking questions.

For one jet fuel is basically kerosene, a low grade fuel, which under ideal conditions burns at about 1800 degrees, yet to melt steel we need around 2800 degrees, where did this extra heat come from?

Or what is the likelihood that all the support columns were uniformly heated so that they all failed at the same time allowing the top of the building to fall straight down?

How come the undamaged lower floors offered little resistance to the collapsing buildings?

What a stroke of luck for the investigators to be able to identify the terrorists by finding in the debris one their passports that magically survived all that fire and destruction.

We were told they were Saudi�s nationals, so why did we invade Iraqi?

What are the odds of transponders in four different planes be turned off almost simultaneously, very close to Washington, and yet no fighters were scrambled to investigate?

Experienced airline pilots have stated that they would have difficulty performing some of the complex maneuvers of the hijacked jets. So how was it that terrorists who could barely fly a Cessna were up to the task?

How come a number of first responders swear seeing and hearing multiple ground level explosions in both towers before their collapse and why are they being excluded from the memorial ceremony?

How come many reputed architects and engineers are adamant that the �official story�, of burning jet fuel, simply does not explain the collapse of the TwinTowers as well as the collapse of building 7, which was not even hit by a jet?

Over at the Pentagon prior to 911 Rumsfeld had a news conference where he mentioned that they had a small accounting problem in that they had lost track of a few trillion dollars. Guess what part of the pentagon that those records just happened to be keep in along with all the people that knew what they contained.

These are just some of the questions I would like to see answered. Now that would be a truly fitting tribute to those that died that day.

The fuel burning below the melting point of the steel is a bad argument. Steel (Iron) has a phase change way below its melting point which would severly weaken the steel. Also, at that temperature there is something called grain growth which weakens the steel also.

What bothers me are 3 things:

1) Like you mentioned a trillion dollar plus loss announced sept 10 2011.
2) A pakistani kid telling a teacher a few days earlier those buildings will not exist in a week.
3) An israeli film crew filming the thing in Jersey and being let go after it happened.
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Wow, Saved, I hadn't heard/read of those 3 items before. especially Numbers
2 & 3. Very suspicious!
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What bothers me are 3 things:

1) Like you mentioned a trillion dollar plus loss announced sept 10 2011.
Giuliani reported that 230 million had been recovered. The Comex Commodity Futures Gold, Silver, Oil Exchange was in that building. My guess is that Comex did not really have that many assets as they claimed. Kind of like Saddam saying he had weapons of mass destruction in order to bluff his enemy neighbors.
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The fuel burning below the melting point of the steel is a bad argument. Steel (Iron) has a phase change way below its melting point which would severly weaken the steel. Also, at that temperature there is something called grain growth which weakens the steel also.

What bothers me are 3 things:

1) Like you mentioned a trillion dollar plus loss announced sept 10 2011.
2) A pakistani kid telling a teacher a few days earlier those buildings will not exist in a week.
3) An israeli film crew filming the thing in Jersey and being let go after it happened.
I agree and am aware that steel does lose its strength when heated, it is because of this trait that blacksmiths are able to work with it and bend it into all sort of interesting shapes, but what is the likelihood that all of the 21(?) support columns were uniformly heated so that they all failed at the same time allowing the top of the building to fall virtually straight down rather then topple off to one side?

Other steel frame buildings have had fires burning for way longer time and taking out entire floors yet their support columns did not fail.

Also by evidence of all the black smoke this was an oxygen starved fire, thus it was not burning as hot as it could have. That plus the relatively short time from when the plane hit the building to the time when it collapsed are what make this story hard to believe.

I have no doubt that there were those who had foreknowledge of
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I am Canadian, however, will offer a different point of view concerning Sept 11/2001.

I remember the guy who designed the twin towers stating there is no way the building would collapse, and was designed to take a hit from a plane... Of course no mention of an airliner, but the point is the fire was not hot enough to damage the steel beams.

I just saw the same guy 10 years later. he now states it wasn't the plane that caused the building to collapse, it was the jet fuel, and even though the temperature wasn't high enough to melt the steel, he said it was high enough to weaken it.

We've all seen the videos of the plane hitting the south tower, and the huge fire ball that followed, however, that was the jet fuel. In other words, the fuel burned up on impact.

The thing that bothers me the most was the plane hitting the pentagon. Now you can't even go to the mall without being seen by several cameras, and yet the pentagon shows a grainy crappy video of some shadows then a big explosion... They say they have other video but won't release it to the public because it would be difficult for the families to watch. I call bullshit on that. The families want to know what happened that day.

And another thing that bothers me alot was flight 93 and the so-called crater in the field, and the lack of bodies, luggage, etc.

It is easy enough to see that there was a huge cover-up by the government, and since we all know government is corrupt and likes to operate in secret mode, there should be an investigation done by scientists, engineers, etc.
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I am Canadian, however, will offer a different point of view concerning Sept 11/2001.

I remember the guy who designed the twin towers stating there is no way the building would collapse, and was designed to take a hit from a plane... Of course no mention of an airliner, but the point is the fire was not hot enough to damage the steel beams.

I just saw the same guy 10 years later. he now states it wasn't the plane that caused the building to collapse, it was the jet fuel, and even though the temperature wasn't high enough to melt the steel, he said it was high enough to weaken it.

We've all seen the videos of the plane hitting the south tower, and the huge fire ball that followed, however, that was the jet fuel. In other words, the fuel burned up on impact.

The thing that bothers me the most was the plane hitting the pentagon. Now you can't even go to the mall without being seen by several cameras, and yet the pentagon shows a grainy crappy video of some shadows then a big explosion... They say they have other video but won't release it to the public because it would be difficult for the families to watch. I call bullshit on that. The families want to know what happened that day.

And another thing that bothers me alot was flight 93 and the so-called crater in the field, and the lack of bodies, luggage, etc.

It is easy enough to see that there was a huge cover-up by the government, and since we all know government is corrupt and likes to operate in secret mode, there should be an investigation done by scientists, engineers, etc.
My guess is flight 93 was shot down and the govt will not admit it. The pentagon one is weird, very weird. Also what is weird was when they killed saddam's sons and when they hanged saddam, it was all over the news, but the govt refused to show a bin laden. I am more curious as what the israeli's were doing filming it in NJ. They knew about it in advance and let it happen it seems. Also, the US flew out the bin laden family the next day and osama's brother was a Bush family financial advisor. Too many screwed up things with this one.
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