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Old 09-11-2006, 08:53 PM
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While looking at this site, https://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=5588 which I haven�t looked that for a while I came across the following.

Anesthesia�Docs Actually Don't Know How it Works

The above is just one of many short (half page or less) articles on various health topics. At the bottom of each one are links to other articles and they appear to go on endlessly. Found both old and new stuff. It is kind of a neat place to go to when you do not know where you want to go and you have some time to kill.

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Hi Mad,
unknowncountry is my favorite web site. You might want to give a listen to their Dreamland radio program sometime. This week it is about the proof coming from physics for the existance of psychic phenomena. The main program lasts an hour, and then they have a 30 min. report on some strange thing like cattle mutilation or crop circles or sunspots, etc. from science reporter Linda Howe. Most programs are interviews with interesting people who think outside the box, like Jim Marrs (Alien Agenda).
They do sometimes make mistakes in their articles, but they want you to contact them with corrections if you see one.
I had read all of Whitley Strieber's books, which is how I ended up there in the first place.
There are a lot of good global warming articles, since that is a special interest of his ( he wrote The Day After Tomorrow) and a "quick watch" page which keeps track of the climate change indicators.
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Yes Whitley has some weird strange stuff, but then I like weird strange stuff.

Once you have experienced and done some of this psychic phenomena stuff for yourself it ceases to be all that unbelievable, regardless of what the critics say.

I like Linda Howe she is an interesting science reporter in that she will look into the strange stories that others are afraid to report. As a repeat guest on Coast-to-Coast AM I have listened to her frequently. No I do not stay up all night listening to it, I record it and then play it back during the day when nothing else worthwhile is on.


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Hi Mad,
At age 13 I had my first series of reincarnational dreams from a life in the 1500's. I had another series at age 21 from a life in the 1800's. In both cases, someone significant from the earlier life had just reappeared in my current life.

Then, when I became seriously ill, I started being able to tell when people are lying. I could sort out the receivers (like me) from the senders, and I could read the truth of what the senders were thinking, if I wanted to. I became amazed and disheartened by how often people lie, and for how little reason, and shocked by how many believe their own lies. It is mostly Senders who pooh-pooh these phenomena, since they do not receive any of the info themselves.

I concentrated so much energy on learning about my illness and running my support group to help others, that I developed a certain amount of medical intuitiveness, and can sometimes see illness in others. I don't get the exact illness. I may just see that there is something wrong with their liver, for example. It is usually somethng I pick up immediately, upon meeting them. I can watch "Mystery Diagnosis" on Discovery health channel, and am right 85% of the time, while the expert doctors take years to figure it out. This has not helped my faith in doctors, which is already non-existant after 20 years of watching them bungle the treatment of this illness in myself and others.

I also have a college friend whose mother was an amazingly accurate psychic, and a current friend who makes part of her living doing tarot, as she is very clairvoyant. One of her unique abilities is that she can "hear" animals. She recently told me there was a squirrel living in our roof, and after an inspection we found to our amazement she was right. She also told me our aging Golden Retriever had severe pain in his front left leg, so I took him to the Vet, who said that leg is bone on bone now due to arthritis. We built him a higher bed, and put him on a drug to help him. He showed no signs of pain....a tough dog. I also have had a reading by a well-known psychic that was dead on accurate and very specific. Some extremely far-fetched predicitons he made for me have come true since then.

So.....nobody has to convince me that psychic ability is real. It is too bad there are so many fakers out there who make people without much ability doubt that anyone has the ability. They taint the whole field, just like quack alternative practitioners taint the whole alternative health field, and cause conventional doctors to refuse to look at the merit of any of it.

I do have something to offer you may not have thought about though....It has been noted by many writers on my illness, under any of the names it goes by (Lyme, FMS, CFS, ME), that psychic ability seems to increase in those who get this, especially if they get it when they are relatively young, and are already spiritually oriented.

It is thought that this may be due to the strong dominance of the sympathetic nervous system, as opposed to the parasympathetic, which develops in this illness. The sympathetic system controls alertness and "fight or flight", enabling you to pick up subtle info in your environment that may help you escape and live in a crisis situation.

I do have hearing that is as good as a dog's, one expected consequence of extreme sympathetic dominance. I also am completely intolerant of crowded, noisy places now....way too much incoming info! Driving on a six lane road makes me dizzy. It's very hard to live in the pandemonium of the modern world like this, whereas those who could hear a twig snap 1/4 mile away would have been the most prized members of the tribe, back in the Stone Age...probably why this tendency has survived in some people.

I have come to feel that there is nothing paranormal about psychic ability at all. It is a reflection of the way the brain is wired, and the resulting chemical soup it is floating in. On a metaphysical level, it would be a choice to have this ability, and once again I have overshot my level of spiritual development in choosing to have this ability, since knowing how often people lie has caused me to reject them. I give people 3 chances. After 3 lies, without owning up and atoning, you are out of my life, and I do not even care if you are a relative, that carries no weight with me. I should have worked harder on unconditional love before taking on this ability.

What have your experiences been like? Have you deliberately cultivated your abilities?

Roxie
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Roxie:
I do not claim to have any great psychic ability; actually I started out more on the skeptic side. However many a year ago at the place where I worked during our lunch and break periods we managed to discuss/argue a wide range of topics. It was a good group, always quite interesting and everyone learned from them.

My questioning of conventional wisdom started when someone brought in a book on the Great pyramid. It when through all the typical descriptions and theories but then it went into all the mathematical numbers and relationships that are encoded into it. Stuff that the ancient Egyptians weren�t suppose to have known. The one thing that has always stuck in my mind was the standard explanation that the ancient Egyptians went to their favorite stone quarry and with their copper and stone chisels chopped out a minimum of 2 ton blocks, carefully dressed them to size, dragged them 20 miles to the building site, then using robes and levers raised the stones into place.
The same experts that also tell us that it took them 25 years to build the pyramid and that it contains 2.5 million stone, give or take one or two. So out curiosity I wondered how many stones was that per day, assuming a 10-hour workday, this is just simple arithmetic. So if they work day-in and day-out for 25 years all they had to do was cut, move and place stones at the rate of about one stone every 2 minutes! Clearly the stone and copper chisel theory just doesn�t hack it. Obviously there is a major disconnect here between the official story and reality.

This then raised the question are there other things we except a fact, yet are wrong? When our discussions turned to Edger Casey here again conventional wisdom said he had to be a fake and was just fooling people. Except that all his readings were recorded and when he gave a health reading and if the person followed his advice rarely did it not work.

About this time the local library offered a series of lectures on different psychic phenomena. There was an expert palm reader who gave a lecture by continually referring to a paperback book. Then there was the psychic who told us in great detail how great he was and we all should sign up for a personal reading. Of course when his ability or methods were questioned he became quite annoyed. :P There were a few other memorable ones that I have completely forgot.
However the one that I most distinctly remember was by a guy from Silva Mind Control. Now called the Silva Method � makes it sounds less threatening. He clearly described the program, the fact he was one of the instructors probably had a little bit to do that. He had no problem answering difficulty questions and obviously was not threatened when someone did not accept what he had to say. He made the point that everyone is free to except or reject whatever he had to say.

Eventually I wound up taking the course. It was four, 12-hour days on two consecutive weekends. Also once you have taken the course you can go back retake it as often as you what for free.

This is some of the things covered. The first day we were taught relaxation techniques; how to promote physical and mental heath and control tension and headache, etc. Recall your dreams and use them for problem solving.
The second day was for general self-improvement. We learned different memory techniques such as being able to recall names. Do you think if I read you a list of 100 names that you could remember them and turn around and call them back to me and in the same order? YOU CAN. Plus a number of other techniques for a better memory and problem solving. Also learned how to control habits such as, smoking, weight, etc.
The third day we mentally explored plant and animal life and created a mental laboratory for problem solving.
The forth day we practiced what we had learned correcting problems in plant and animal/humans. �remote healing�

By the way Xania if you are around how is the eye problem?

Soon found myself doing things that were �quote� technical imposable. Such as an Edgar Casey type of reading on a person who I did not know and was not present. Yet the person who was working with me did know her and confirmed my reading of her problem.

Another interesting experience was when our group was asked to sit in a circle and mentally send �energy� to the person on our left. This produced the sensation that I was being slammed into the space between my body and the person to my left. A really weird feeling, but it did demonstrate the power of the mind.

I still frequently use the relaxation and health maintenance techniques
Anyway now if some expert says that something absolutely totally impossible I now take that with a grain of salt.

Here are some quotes you might enjoy their from a book called Illusions � the adventures of a reluctant messiah.

[The mark of your ignorance is the depth of your belief in injustice and tragedy. What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, the master calls a butterfly.]

[You are never given a wish without the power to make it true. However! You may have to work for it.]

[Argue for your limitations and sure enough they�re yours.]

[Learning is finding out what you already know. Doing is demonstrating that you know it. Teaching is reminding others that they know just a well a you. We are all learners, doers, teachers.]

[Here is a test to find whether your mission on earth I finished; If you are alive it isn�t.]
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Hi Mad,
VERY interesting. I had a friend in college who took the Silva course. He also did a lot more yoga than I did. One day he told me he could now stop his pulse for two minutes. I was very skeptical until he sat down on the floor and did it. I worked in a hospital, so I know how to take a pulse, and he had no pulse, with no ill effects.
You are making me wish I had the cash to take the course, since I could use some help in some of the areas you mention.
Good quotes too! Thanks,
Roxie
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I took the course back in 74 at the time it cost $150, which I felt was a lot of money. Have no idea what it is now but would suspect that it is at least twice that, probably more. Still in hindsight I feel it was well worth the money. So if a rich uncle leaves you a bunch of money I would definitely consider it.
I have a set of official tapes, which are good alternative, but it is not quite the same as being there.
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Hi Mad,
You got a good deal! I looked it up last night on their main web site, and for a one weekend course from 9 am to 7 pm both days, it cost $495.

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Mad, thank you for your enquiry
"By the way Xania if you are around how is the eye problem?"
I think the vision is improved but I look forward to a vision test so as to be objective about that claim. When this think first started I was unable to read with my right eye and I had a permanent headache.
Here we are, six weeks on and I have no heaadache and better vision. I shall have the second Avastin injection of Thursday.

I am fascinated by your description of the Silva Method. If you say it was worth the expense, then you must have used the techniques and found them satisfactory.
I look forward to hearing more, but I don't need to "hear" do I? Thank you for the remote healing!
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You got a good deal! I looked it up last night on their main web site, and for a one weekend course from 9 am to 7 pm both days, it cost $495.

$495 for only one weekend!!! Wow! Maybe I should use the lifetime offer to retake the course as many times as I want. That is assuming they still honor it.


I am fascinated by your description of the Silva Method. If you say it was worth the expense, then you must have used the techniques and found them satisfactory.

Yes they offered a number of different techniques you just use the ones that are most beneficial to you. Had a problem with public speaking, and was able to over come that.
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Sounds good. I ran a support group for other unfortunates with my disease for ten years, and even after ten years of running those meetings, I got sick before every one of them. I never overcame my fear of public speaking.

Memory improvement would be nice also, since my once elephantine memory and small body have changed places!

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