Hi - cancer is not known or proven to be an immune disorder, but the idea (that we get cancer due to an immune system failure) is I think a good theory which if it pans out hopefully will produce improved methods to combat it. For anyone unfamiliar, basically the theory goes something like we all have cancer cells in minute quantities most/all of the time, but our immune systems eradicate them on a regular basis - cancer (ie cancer cells reproducing rapidly and unchecked) occurs when for whatever reason our immune system fails to work properly.

Yes, they can provide various health benefits, possibly including some cancers, which would be a fantastic thing!

That seems reasonable. Cancer occurs when the methylation process goes bad, disturbing the DNA. Happens all the time. It is a continuing dance. https://www.miami-dade-online.com/MethylManual1.htm

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It's obviously not super simple, but if your immune system goes bad, then you have a hard time fightning anything. You may have cancer, but you are also going to have trouble with infections. I know that chemo supresses the immune system and that's why I choose not to agree with it. Sure, it shrinks cancer cells, but I also feel that it hinders your body's ability to fight the cancer altogether (or almost altogether). If you end up getting other infections, then your body is under stress from the cancer, the chemo and the other infections. This can raise blood pressure which can cause more problems...and it's just a chain reaction. I can't say that I believe people die from chemo alone. But I think they can die from cancer, chemo and stress combined. I believe this happened to my best friend's mother. It was so bad that they told her she couldn't be around any animals...for fear that she would get an infection from them.

If you have time, please read more about this as most is basic science from high school depending on your age.

T Cell and Natural Killer Cells Both types contain granules filled with poten chemicals. Both types kill on contact. They bind their targets, aim their weapons, and deliver bursts of lethal chemicals. The father of oncology knew this and is why he had such success with cancer until the Rockefeller gave $2000 to study drug based medicine in 1910. Truly an interesting story as the original Rockefeller made his money to buy Standard Oil through selling cancer cures made of chemicals that never worked. He was an embarrassment to the family.

Certainly each and every person who has success with nutrition is in some way are building the immune system.

Next, everyone knows that diseases like MS, arthritis and diabetes are auto immune. It is the body not recognizing the foreign item in the body and attacking itself. If arthritis - the body is attacking the joints, and so on.

If the body is able to recognize what should not be there, be it cancer or a cold, with a healthy immune system it will attack.

I will try to find the most recent research but cancer cells are damaged cells in the body from many causes. Even the research on the maitake mushroom shows the effect on the body is increased immune function - ie a build up of natural killer cells (immune system).

I wondered how hydrogen peroxide could battle cancer but it kills bacteria and the most recent research on the supplements I take show with enough mannose in the body, bacteria cannot attach to the cell walls. I will study more about hydrogen peroxide too as I love learning.

Yes, mannose comes from probably many sources but one of the best is aloe vera. The problem is the aloe vera plant has good and bad parts. The inside and one layer of the leaf are packed with it - also it will only stay active for a certain amount of time unless stabilized. Thus many alo vera products loose their effectiveness because they are not stabilized. Only one company I know has the patent on stabilizing aloe vera.

Even if you ordered maitake products, it will come in a dark bottle with eye dropper and wrapped. They do this to help the product stay active.

Green tea is another product that can be a very good antioxident unless it is not stabilized - then it becomes an oxident.

Just some things I have been learning.

If the thymus is in any way weakened, this T Cell production will not occur fast enough. One way this happens is through aging. This is nearly the only function of the Thymus gland.

No need and no offense, but I suggest you take your own advice. Again: cancer is not known or proven to be an immune disorder, period. If your high school is teaching this, it's a compelling argument for home schooling.

I'd love to know where you got this as I couldn't find it anywhere. But calling one of the greatest philanthropists ever "an embarraseement to the family" is more than a little absurd, esp when much of what he gave helped the medical profession, and no less than Sloan-Kettering, one of the world's leading cancer centers, owes a great deal to him.

Not relevant to cancer, but nobody knows this since FYI that is all either unproven or incorrect as well. Arthritis is not "the body attacking the joints," it is the deteriation of cartilage in the joints - and there is no evidence that any of those 3 are diseases of the immune system.

The sinister thing about cancer is it can fool the immune system into thinking it's perfectly healthy normal tissue. So a good, healthy immune system clearly is not enough (although it is very important to have in general).

Since cancer aren't bacteria I'm wondering that myself...

Sorry, not getting what this has to do with cancer either-?

Many many people get cancer who never ever got acute infections. Some who were never sick a day in their lives.

Some chemo so devastates the immune response mechinism that they must protect them from all possible risk of infection. ...

and then also, many people who are under severe stress never elevate in their blood pressure.

Its all a very complex matter and generalizations can get one into trouble.

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What generalizations are you saying I'm making? You obviously think that chemo is a bad idea...or you wouldn't have tortured Bill about conventional cancer treatments. That in itself is a generalization. I don't understand how we disagree? I never said it will raise blood pressure or the people will have or get infections...I said they can. Are you just trying to think up ways to tell me I'm wrong because you are mad that I'm taking Bill's side? (Not saying you are, I'm just wondering).

you see, Grandma, you can waste your breath here all day.