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Old 11-07-2011, 11:58 AM
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Default Conventional CoQ10 Fails Severe Heart Disease Patients

Anybody with Heart Failure and taking the inactivated form of COQ10(Ubiquinone), should change to the activated form of COQ10(Ubiquinol). It raises serum COQ10 levels by 300% and cardiac output by 88% compared with the inactivated form of COQ10. Most patients in a study moved up on average 2 classes on the NYHA scale.
Its dearer but more effective. Patients on conventional heart drugs should take Ubiquinol under supervision from their Health Practitioner.

https://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/...&key=ubiquinol

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19096107

https://www.iherb.com/Ubiquinol-CoQ10

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Patients on conventional heart drugs should take Ubiquinol under supervision from their Health Practitioner.
But surely that depends on whether or not their health practitioner has more than half a brain.

The fact is the most commonly prescribed drug for heart problems is the Statin LIPITOR Atorvastatin and we know that significantly decreased serum ubiquinol.

Anyone with more than half a brain would know ubiquinol levels need restoring to compensate for the decrease caused by Atorvastatin but I bet most people taking Lipitor don't restore their Ubiquinol levels.

This paper shows they have been lying about the benefits of statins and have fiddled the statistics.
Is the use of cholesterol in mortality risk algorithms in clinical guidelines valid?
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clinical and public health recommendations regarding the 'dangers' of cholesterol should be revised. This is especially true for women, for whom moderately elevated cholesterol (by current standards) may prove to be not only harmless but even beneficial.
I don't think the trust you are placing on health professionals to act in their patients best interests is justified. In the UK statins are being prescribed to women simply because doctors get a bonus payment for doing so. There isn't any justification for statin use for women. In fact that research suggests raising cholesterol levels for women may save lives.

IMO it's irresponsible to suggest or imply that the guidance and supervision of health professionals is always in the best interests of heart patients. For the most part health professionals have been negligent, lazy, incompetent and extremely gullible. We should not be afraid of challenging their actions when it's clear the evidence does not support their decisions.

I think readers here should try to understand the evidence and challenge the advice and guidance of anyone suggesting statin use and certainly should be taking ubiquinol with Lipitor or if they stop taking Lipitor should correct the ubiquinol insufficiency Lipitor caused.
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IMO it's irresponsible to suggest or imply that the guidance and supervision of health professionals is always in the best interests of heart patients.
CoQ10 can interfere with other drugs than statins which heart patients may be taking. I agree about statins but most CHF patients are also on BP and blood thinners which COQ10 can interact with.

https://heart-disease.emedtv.com/coq1...ctions-p1.html

Some other patients have HF due to being on chemo and there is some evidence that COQ10 can help, but there is a possibility it can also affect chemo effectivity. These patients can also have poorly controlled candida due to compromised immune systems and low stomach acid and there is evidence that high doses of COQ10 can increase candida to dangerous levels in these cases.

https://www.health-truth.com/Co-Q10-and-Candida.html
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CoQ10 can interfere with other drugs than statins which heart patients may be taking. I agree about statins but most CHF patients are also on BP and blood thinners which COQ10 can interact with.

https://heart-disease.emedtv.com/coq1...ctions-p1.html

Some other patients have HF due to being on chemo and there is some evidence that COQ10 can help, but there is a possibility it can also affect chemo effectivity. These patients can also have poorly controlled candida due to compromised immune systems and low stomach acid and there is evidence that high doses of COQ10 can increase candida to dangerous levels in these cases.

https://www.health-truth.com/Co-Q10-and-Candida.html
I'm not saying that people should not discuss the issue with their health professionals but I don't think we can safely assume that health professionals are always acting in the best interests of the patient.
The evidence does NOT support that naive idea.
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