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Old 07-08-2009, 02:52 AM
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Vaccine May Be More Dangerous Than Swine Flu

Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:54 AM

By: Dr. Russell Blaylock

An outbreak of swine flu occurred in Mexico this spring that eventually affected 4,910 Mexican citizens and resulted in 85 deaths. By the time it spread to the United States, the virus caused only mild cases of flu-like illness.

Thanks to air travel and the failure of public health officials to control travel from Mexico, the virus spread worldwide. Despite predictions of massive numbers of deaths and the arrival of doomsday, the virus has remained a relatively mild disease, something we know happens each year with flu epidemics.

Worldwide, there have only been 311 deaths out of 70,893 cases of swine flu. In the United States, 27,717 cases have resulted in 127 deaths. Every death is a tragedy, but such a low death rate should not be the basis of a draconian government policy.

It is helpful to recall that the Centers for Disease Control with the collusion of the media, constantly tell us that 36,000 people die from the flu each year, a figure that has been shown to be a lie. In this case, we are talking about 300 plus deaths for the entire world.

This virus continues to be an enigma for virologists. In the April 30, 2009 issue of Nature, a virologist was quoted as saying,�Where the hell it got all these genes from we don�t know.� Extensive analysis of the virus found that it contained the original 1918 H1N1 flu virus, the avian flu virus (bird flu), and two new H3N2 virus genes from Eurasia. Debate continues over the possibility that swine flu is a genetically engineered virus.

Naturally, vaccine manufacturers have been in a competitive battle to produce the first vaccine. The main contenders have been Baxter Pharmaceuticals and Novartis Pharmaceuticals, the latter of which recently acquired the scandal-ridden Chiron vaccine company. Both of these companies have had agreements with the World Health Organization to produce a pandemic vaccine.

The Baxter vaccine, called Celvapan, has had fast track approval. It uses a new vero cell technology, which utilizes cultured cells from the African green monkey. This same animal tissue transmits a number of vaccine-contaminating viruses, including the HIV virus.

The Baxter company has been associated with two deadly scandals. The first event occurred in 2006 when hemophiliac components were contaminated with HIV virus and injected in tens of thousands of people, including thousands of children. Baxter continued to release the HIV contaminated vaccine even after the contamination was known.

The second event occurred recently when it was discovered that Baxter had released a seasonal flu vaccine containing the bird flu virus, which would have produced a real world pandemic, to 18 countries. Fortunately, astute lab workers in the Czech Republic discovered the deadly combination and blew the whistle before a worldwide disaster was unleashed.

Despite these two deadly events, WHO maintains an agreement with Baxter Pharmaceuticals to produce the world�s pandemic vaccine.

Novartis, the second contender, also has an agreement with WHO for a pandemic vaccine. Novartis appears to have won the contract, since their vaccine is near completion. What is terrifying is that these pandemic vaccines contain ingredients, called immune adjuvants that a number of studies have shown cause devastating autoimmune disorders, including rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis and lupus.

Animal studies using this adjuvant have found them to be deadly. A study using 14 guinea pigs found that when they were injected with the special adjuvant, only one animal survived. A repeat of the study found the same deadly outcome.

So, what is this deadly ingredient? It is called squalene, a type of oil. The Chiron company, maker of the deadly anthrax vaccine, makes an adjuvant called MF-59 which contains two main ingredients of concern�squalene and gp120. A number of studies have shown that squalene can trigger all of the above-mentioned autoimmune diseases when injected.

The MF-59 adjuvant has been used in several vaccines. These vaccines, including tetanus and diphtheria, are the same vaccines frequently associated with adverse reactions.

I reviewed a number of studies on this adjuvant and found something quite interesting. Several studies done on human test subjects found MF-59 to be a very safe immune adjuvant. But when I checked to see who did these studies, I found�to no surprise�that they were done by the Novartis Pharmaceutical Company and Chiron Pharmaceutical Company, which have merged. They were all published in �prestigious� medical journals. Also, to no surprise, a great number of studies done by independent laboratories and research institutions all found a strong link between MF-59 and autoimmune diseases.

Squalene in vaccines has been strongly linked to the Gulf War Syndrome. On August 1991, Anthony Principi, Secretary of Veterans Affairs admitted that soldiers vaccinated with the anthrax vaccine from 1990 to 1991 had an increased risk of 200 percent in developing the deadly disease amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), also called Lou Gehrig�s disease. The soldiers also suffered from a number of debilitating and life-shortening diseases, such as polyarteritis nodosa, multiple sclerosis (MS), lupus, transverse myelitis (a neurological disorder caused by inflammation of the spinal cord), endocarditis (inflammation of the heart�s inner lining), optic neuritis with blindness and glomerulonephritis (a type of kidney disease).

The second ingredient, and one that greatly concerns me, is called gp120, a glycoprotein. Researchers found when it was mixed with squalene, the glycoprotein became strongly antigenic�that is, it produced a powerful and prolonged immune response to the vaccination. In fact, their studies show that with each dose, the intense immune reaction lasts over a year.

Now for the shocker�the glycoprotein-gp120, a major component of MF-59 vaccine adjuvant, is the same protein fragment isolated from the HIV virus that is responsible for the rapid dementia seen in AIDS patients.

Studies have shown that when gp120 is taken up by the microglia cells in the brain, it causes intense inflammation and makes the brain subject to excitotoxic damage�a process called immunoexcitotoxicity. This is also the cause of the MS and optic neuritis associated with vaccines that contain MF-59.

So, how would the gp120 get into the brain? Studies of other immune adjuvants using careful tracer techniques have shown that they routinely enter the brain following vaccination. What most people do not know, even the doctors who recommend the vaccines, is that most such studies by pharmaceutical companies observe the patients for only one to two weeks following vaccination�these types of reactions may take months or even years to manifest.

It is obvious that the vaccine manufacturers stand to make billions of dollars in profits from this WHO/government-promoted pandemic. Novartis, the maker of the new pandemic vaccine, recently announced that they would not give free vaccines to impoverished nations�everybody pays.

One must keep in mind that once the vaccine is injected, there is little you can do to protect yourself�at least by conventional medicine. It will mean a lifetime of crippling illness and early death.

There are much safer ways to protect oneself from this flu virus, such as higher doses of vitamin D3, selective immune enhancement using supplements, and a good diet.
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No kidding. Thanks for posting that, liverock.
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"Vaccine May Be More Dangerous Than Swine Flu".

There is no maybe.

Vaccines are alot more dangerous than most people suspect.
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And have any of them ever worked?
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Unhappy Swine Flu Vaccine testing coming up.

Children's Hospital in Cincinnati OH is getting ready to do testing on the newest vaccine for Swine Flu/H1N1. They're asking/looking for 20 prospects per day for the testing, all ages eventually - from infants to elderly - but beginning w/young adults I think. Actual testing begins in August.
You can check one of our local TV channels; https://www.WCPO.com
or https://www.local12.com or https://www.wlwt.com to check the info on this. Look in left hand side columns under Health, etc. on each site.

Cincinnati is supposed to be one of about 10 test markets.
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Unfortunately I don't doubt that they will have any problem getting enough sheeple to line up and be one of the first to be protected.

Of course they maybe also be some of the first to say "side effects you didn't tell us anything about side effects!"
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Unfortunately I don't doubt that they will have any problem getting enough sheeple to line up and be one of the first to be protected.
Unfortunatly, the other parents that really dont want to give this shot to their kids will be railroaded into it, by threats of "for the childs well being! what mother wouldnt want to protect their child! maybe we need to report this" As much as my daughter in law didnt want to give her son the vaccines, she was told that it could be considered child endangerment, and that she would be reported for being an unfit mother...Of course she caved..... Unfortunately, the grandson will be needing corrective surgury, and I am concerned they will pull the stunt that if she doesnt let him have these d*** shots, then they wont do the surgury. Im hoping to be armed with all this information for her, just in case they do that!!!
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What your daughter�in-law is going through is unfortunately not uncommon. They will use any argument at they're disposal to get her to submit. It make them look good. She definitely needs to stand up for her rights and the safety of her child.
If they say it is the law, then she should ask to see the law. If by chance there is a law then she needs to ask for a waver.

Waver do exist but they won�t tell you about them unless you ask/demand for one. Of course to ask for one you first need to know that they do exist. Sort of a nice catch 22 that they are working with.
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Unfortunately I don't doubt that they will have any problem getting enough sheeple to line up and be one of the first to be protected.

Of course they maybe also be some of the first to say "side effects you didn't tell us anything about side effects!"
This is going to be the way it works.

They will give the H1N1 vaccine in three stages according to my calculations. The first injection will pretty much shut down your immune system. The second injection will load you up with multiple mutating viruses, then the third injection will "trigger" your immune system. At this point, you will become very sick and most likely die.

When vaccinated people start dropping like flies, their excuse will be that the virus has mutated and the vaccine can't stop it, but the truth is the vaccine will be killing people, and not the so-called swine flu.

This virus was made in a lab by government scientists, not in some cave in Afghanistan.

The world health organization knows all about this, since it is THEIR plan.

Thats pretty sick.
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Well school is fixing to start down here, and I have just discovered that they are mandating the menigitis vaccine.... I know you can get waivers, but not sure how to do it.... These vaccines will cost 130 dollars, which may be my grandson's safety valve....They cant afford to do this, so are willing to check into a waiver. My kids think I am extreme to think that government might actually do something to harm people. They are buying into the lie that these vaccines are safe. How do I go about getting waivers for my grandkids?

And just out of curiosity, is the ingredient squalene just in the flu vaccines, or will it also be in the menigitis?
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Here's a link to a site that may be helpful regarding signing waivers, etc.

https://www.vaclib.org/legal/donotsign.htm
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thanks K2C, I also found this site for Texas

https://www.vaccineinfo.net/exemptions/index.shtml

My son talked to the family doctor, she never heard that there might be bad stuff in the shots... My son asked her if she had taken the shot, and she said "well of course, both me and my children have had it". Which makes it that much harder to get them to realize what is going on. My son's concept, is "why would the doctor lie to me?" and "why would tey give me something to make me sick or die, if Im dead, they dont get my money, if they make me sick, I find another doctor, and they still dont get my money" He refuses to see the whole picture.
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What your son does not realize is that many of our doctors are also just as brainwashed into believing that these vaccines are the greatest thing since sliced bread. They will believe whatever the drug company reps tell them because they don’t have the time to read all the reports.

There was a time when doctors, in good conscience, used blood letting as a cure and X-rays to cure cancer.

You might try asking your son to check out this web site.

https://www.infowars.com/

OK this guy is a “bit” of a firebrand, but he could be just the thing to get you son to realize that there might be another side to this story.
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Angry Nerve damage

Here's an article on nerve damage from the vaccine:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-America.html
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I just read that the CDC expects a 'certain amount of human wastage' from the vaccine. So that's what they call it, 'human wastage'? Wow.

Also read that if everyone takes the shots they stand to make nearly 50 billion dollars. What's a little human wastage compared to 50 Big Ones?

There's also mercury in the vaccine.
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