I'd like to thank Ted for giving this link when I questioned the safety of colonoscopies on a "new mammogram advice" thread. Any comments on this? I have never had this procedure, and at this point in time, don't intend to get it.

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Excellent link. All arguments against it make sense and I was wondering the same thing in many cases. Polyp removal- how can that help really- you just snip off some flesh but you don't remove it all necessarily, and many are missed. Data shows the overall death rate 150+% higher with screening. Radiation exposure high- just like the mammogram scamogram. Not to mention damage to colon increasing cancer risk.

Thanks for singling this out k2c. Sometimes things get lost in wandering threads.

I'm so glad I read this. Thanks for that Ted. My small town doctor has a guest doctor visit his office every month. That doctor interviews people to see if they need or talk them into colonoscopy. I only went to my doctor for a physical to be able to get health insurance; and I was new to Texas and thought I needed a primary physician. Yeah. Right. Anyway, I went to the guest doctor and sat in his office waiting for him for 15 minutes. He just asked me one question, "How old are you?" I asked him if I could drive to his lab and be able to drive back afterward. He said no; due to the drugs. I only knew a few friends in this new area; and I certainly did not want to impose upon them. I asked him about virtual colonoscopy. He said, "our lab does not do that; and it is not complete anyway." I got the paperwork anyway. Cost of the 2 minute interview = $147.00. Idiot! My word for him; but I suppose that I was the idiot.

I was then and am still considering the virtual colonoscopy; but I'm so glad that I read that link.

I'll stick with things like occasional use of graviola (https://www.rain-tree.com/graviola.htm) and fiber and other herbs. And hope.

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A relative of mine through marriage began to receive routine colonoscopies as recommended by his doctor at around the age of fifty. He was super healthy, ate lots of fruits, vegetables, legumes, etc. He rarely ate any meat, no pork, little if any sweets, no smoking, drinking or drugs. He was not overweight, and exercised regularly.

As they removed "harmless" polyps when necessary, my family started encouraging me (and my husband) to have a colonoscopy, since we were over fifty. We did not take that advice, and till this day we have only considered getting a virtual colonoscopy if desired.

Well, he has since then been a victim of colon cancer, has had a section of his colon removed, and the cancer has spread to other parts of his body. Currently he's undergoing stronger and stronger chemo treatments to shrink a cancerous tumor on his liver, so they can go in and remove it, it's still too large to safely do that.

They are still in the mindset that he was lucky to have those colonoscopies, or he'd probably be dead now of colon cancer, and praise the procedure. When I did mention that I thought the procedure may have actually cause the cancer to begin with, I was frowned upon. I'm really not that knowledgeable when it comes to technical issues regarding medicine or the body for that matter, but I just never did have a good feeling about colonoscopies.

In my case, the Colonscopy is helpful. I have Crohn's and it is the best way to see if the disease is progressing or not.

I will have one soon, but it will probably be my last one, unless I have some compelling reason to get another.

I want to confirm my suspicion that my current treatment method has the disease totally inactive. I do not know another way to confirm this other than a colonoscopy.

I would have to agree that it is likely a useless procedure for most routine purposes.

Dan

This old fashioned procedure seems so much safer. I do remember people saying how disgusting the barium is. Barium should be heavy enough to pass right on through the body though. I'd still do a metals detox afterward and also potassium iodide for the radiation effect on the thyroid after the x-rays too. But it seems safer than colonoscopy and virtual colonoscopy.

https://www.radiologyinfo.org/en/info.cfm?pg=lowergi

I am very familiar with barium xrays. They cannot diagnose cancer but they can indicate problems. I worked for a clinic that did them routinely to monitor healing corresponding with iris diagnosis. I have seen many many with corresponding iris diagnosis in some cases. Iris diagnosis can find colon cancer for those who are nervous about an xray or colonoscopy but if you are going to rely on iris diagnosis you better take it for real and act upon what the iridologis says.


I think that colonoscopies are a good idea for many people. One thing for sure, if you do not get colon cancer diagnosed early you are dead. An early diagnosis can save your life and many many people recover from colon cancer these days.

I have had two uncles die due to colon cancer and my grandmother got it in her late 80's for which they decided not to treat.

I have had two colonoscopies, as well as my husband.

My husband had over 25 polyps removed and diagnosed. None were cancer. But they were very concerned about the number he had....so was I.

With this knowledge we armed ourselves and went on a polyp preventative protocol. He got a follow up this past summer, almost 4 years after the first test, and he had only one polyp.

If we had not known no action would have been taken, and my husband is much much more into junk food than I am. It was a great behavior modifier.

I have chosed to do it due to signficant family history. So far so good. It is not the information that you get that is the problem, it is what you do with that information.

That taking polyps out causes cancer to spread I think is not too likely. Most people who get a colon resection with early cancer do extremely well.. if that it the route that they choose. If a polyp is found to be cancerous I think it is a good idea to have a resection and then fortify your body with all the alternative modalities.

stats show that most colon cancer can be survived and cured if treated early enough. You can't get it early if you don't look for it. If you wait till you have obvious symptoms it is likely too late.

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Then you are probably familiar with the great benefit of IP6. ?

Good info on that page too. Phytic acid, folic acid, acids generated from friendly flora, ... I am so convinced that at least a slightly acid environment is good.

Need more IP6 info folks?
https://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/133/11/3778S

https://www.naturalnews.com/IP6.html

https://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi39.html

I've never had a colonoscopy. I'm over 60. I've forgotten about the barium x-ray thing. I've been brain washed toward more modern, more expensive methods.

I had my first colocoscopy about 5 or 6 years ago. I can't remember now how many polyps I had but between 5 and 10. Two were precancerous and bright red...I have pictures of them that the doctor took before removing them. I'm very glad that I had my test because they were at the last stage of becoming cancerous and I was lucky that the cancer hadn't gotten into the stem of the polyps that connected to the colon wall. My doctor was elated that he found them in time! He wanted me to have another test in 6 months but we weren't sure if my insurance would cover it. Then I kept putting it off until a few months ago when he found no polyps at all! I was pretty relieved, thinking I might have waited too long.

I don't look forward to having anymore tests, but my advice would be that they are good insurance. My grandchildren's paternal grandmother is near death right now with colon cancer. Their great grandfather on their mother's side of the family also died from cancer that started in the colon so they have real reason for concern. Why take the chance?

I think anyone who has a history of colon cancer in their family would
be wise to get colonoscopies.

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