Hello,

I am doing a research project on health information on the internet for my first year of college. I wanted to know how people use online information about health to to inform and care for themselves and others. I became interested in how alternative medicine is found on the Internet as well, because it seems to have a much stronger presence on the internet than anywhere else.

So, I would just like to ask a few questions, especially of Mad Scientest, who mentioned hydrogen peroxide and/or baking soda as a treatment for cancer.

How did you find out about this treatment? Did you hear about it on a forum, an online article, or from some other source, such as a friend?

Also, how do you see this treatment working on cancer? Do results show through an overall physical feeling of being healthier, or can you observe it working in other ways, such as medical tests?

I would also like to know what prompted you to find this treatment. Do you have cancer? Does a loved one of yours have cancer? Have you had a bad experience with conventional treatment or a doctor?

If you feel that you do not want to answer any of these questions, that is perfectly fine. I am not trying to offend you by asking questions. I am just genuinely interested in the viewpoint of someone who uses alternative medicine.

First off welcome to the forum. Secondly do not be afraid to ask questions, the learning what others know and the sharing of information is what this is all about. And more particularly the information that you find here you’re not likely to find from the more conventional sources.

As you get into your research one of the first things you will notice is that conventional medicine does not have much use for alternative medicine, to but it mildly. Convention medicine believes that they know all there is to know about medicine and they and only they alone are able to cure you. The problem with conventional medicine is that it typically treats symptoms rather then looking for the cause of the problem.

For example assume you have diabetes. A conventional doctor will give you medicine to force your sugar level into a normal range. But that doesn’t fix the problem of why your sugar level is out of range in the first place. Then if you develop eye problems you will be sent to an eye doctor. If you get foot problems you’re sent to a foot doctor. If you get liver problems you’re sent to a liver specialist. Etc.
Each of these will address your immediate problems, but none will try to find the root cause of them.

Now a doctor practicing alternative medicine will say hey dummy you need to change your diet, stop eating all that sugar you’re overloading your system and you’re causing it to break down. OK maybe that is a little oversimplified but that is the general idea.

I started looking into alternative medicine a number of years ago when my doctor wanted me to start taking cholesterol lowering drugs. Reading the instruction on the label it just didn’t “feel” right thus I started my own research and found the whole cholesterol thing was bogus. It is kind of a long story so I go into it here.

Anyway that then got me to question some of the other truths that conventional medicine would have us believe. Which in turn lead me to the predecessor forum of this one. From there I found web sites of doctors that were into alternative medicine. Here are a couple you can check out.
https://www.mercola.com/
https://douglassreport.com/

I’m sure others here can add to that list.

The baking soda cure I think I got from this forum? The hydrogen peroxide cure was a book that found on the Douglass site. "The One Minute Cure"
Well according to the author, people that conventional medicine declared hopeless and were sent home to die only to decide to try this protocol and they then had a complete recovery. So I guess you could say they had an overall feeling of being healthier. Of course conventional medicine writes these off as just spontaneous remissions.

Then from our cancer forum there is this link to bunch of other alternative treatments for cancer.
https://www.cancertutor.com/
So it would appear that cancer is not this big scary threat that it is made out to be. Now of course from a conventional medicine stand point these alternative treatments have two very serious flaws and which are, one they are dirt cheep and two they actually cure the patient. If they were to cure their patients that would be the last they see of them and their money.

That fact that hundreds of millions have died despite radiation, chemotherapy and surgery surely speaks for itself...

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Thank you very much, MadScientest. I loved hearing your point of view. Would it be okay for me to use your post in my paper? I would just like to include a person's voice.

Yes you may use any or all of that, in any way you wish.

P.S. I have also sent you a PM with a bit more information.

Yay Finally I get to rant about chemo!!!!! Everyone but one person I knew on Chemo ended up dying after the chemo. I don't get what the point is, honestly! It hinders the immune system. But isn't the immune system vitally important in the fight against cancer? Sure, it may slow the growth or shrink it, but the person becomes so sick and then has to deal with two sicknesses instead of just one. It puts the person through more drama and it gets harder and harder to fight. Then the person is just so sick and their body is so tired of fighting that they die.

I intend no offense either to those who are on chemo or who know/knew someone on it. My best friend's mother, 56, died in July. She was like a second mom to me. I kinda saw it coming when she got sicker and sicker with the chemo. I can't say that chemo's for sure what killed her, but there's no doubt in my mind that it was more the stress from the fight than the cancer itself.

People with cancer need to be fed vitamins and nutriets that are essential to immunity. Something that makes them stronger, not weaker.

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One of my female summer pool friends has had 3 to 6 sessions of Chemo & every time I see her at a local
neighborhood store I'm amazed at how good she looks. I'm not sure where her cancer is located, but it's
been about 1 year now since she first found out. Dottie says that except for feeling tired she feels okay.

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It (chemo) does help a small percentage of the patients, but for most, it appears to just make them much worse and hasten the ineviteable. I did have an elderly cousin yrs ago who had colon cancer. He had the surgery and some chemo and became better, but he was also a bigger guy. I noticed if you are small/weak, it really hastens the negative.

Did they try any herbal treatments pre 1940s before these cancer drugs?

May not be the place for my first post but..... hi all

I have non Hodgkin Lymphoma as my screen name gives that away
I have also gone through chop therapy in 2001 and with the help of
a change of diet and lots of supplements, I did OK .
My cell count dropped right on cue the first time but by the next chemo
I was on my supplements and you should have seen the look, when they
checked my cell count and it only dipped slightly.
During my six treatments I only missed 5 days of work and that was from
the first dose without the supplements. I'm coming up on 57 years old
and was diagnosed in Dec. of 2000.

I went to a natural path and he gave me my vitamin regiment , after some blood work to see what was low/high. My doctor was not happy with this
but you have to make your own decision.

My cancer has become active a few times but with the use of Rituxan
and still watching my diet and still taken supplements I can't complain.
I can't say it was only the supplements or the combination vitamin/chemo
which I tend to lean towards the combo.
If the two field could only get together I'm sure the results would be
outstanding.

Sorry for the long rant..........

Welcome:

1) Not a long rant at all.
2) Try essiac tea and STAY AWAY FROM SUGAR in all its forms.
3) If you eat beef or chicken, but only organic chicken and grass fed beef.
4) Look around and find another doctor. Also, if you take supplements, antioxidants protect cells, so if you opt for chemo or radiation (which you should not), Vitamins C and E and antioxidants protect cancer cells also, so you should lay off a few days before.
5) I was talking to some of my students and one told me a friend of hers came down with non hodgkins lymphoma and she quit eating junk foods and strated eating healthy and it disappeared.

Your body can heal itself, you just have to activate your healing system. Do you walk? If not, try walking 5 times a week, fast and build up to 45 minutes if you can. Also, take turmeric and fish or flax oil.

Thanks , save1986 all very good advice.

When first diagnose I was turn on to the book Beating Cancer through Nutrition
Lucky for me my wife was half way there. She is a personal trainer , and eating most of the right foods. We both since have come along way. The body can and will do the most amazing things.

If you can afford it, may I suggest you go to iceland for a few days, all the foods are organic and it might be a cleansing week and relaxing to help activate the healing system!

If that is too much, try something radically different. Also, do you remember an actor Dirk Benedict (Starbuck in the original battlestar gallactica and Face in the A team). He had cancer and moved into a cabin away from everything and just did macrobiotics and was cancer free.