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Well a few months ago I stopped a long comprehensive detox which included nutritional therapy and a little homeopathy and other natural medicones here and there.

The nutrionalist who I was consulting used an energy medicine machine which basically measured stress and weakness of the organs and looked for allergies and so on. Was even able to asses weather one formulation oif a nutrient was better for you than another.

Later she got herself an even better one which was able to do the same thing in rapid time by simply holding the rods as opposed to testing the meridian points (accupuncture points) which her older machine did. Meaning consultation time was much faster. Both machines also were able to formulate homepathic remedies specific for one person.

Has anyone else here used these machines or been a patient of someone who does?
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I did. For a year, I saw an ND that used this expensive equipment and was a master of acupuncture. He would test acupuncture points on my fingers against hundreds of vials of substances; like metals, bacteria, herbs, fungi. He would also test over the counter supplements to see if they would work for me. He would place the vial or bottle on a metal plate; and then press a metal probe on acupuncture points on my fingers and watch a dial. I learned a lot about my body reactions to several substances. I was amazed at what could be discovered with this method. It is somewhat similar to NAET.

However in the end, he could not help me with my major symptoms. Then, I had to move away.
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Aye and I think this is key. I beleive it is down to the practioner as well as the machine. I beleive it can help us very accurately in the way you describe. Although my own experience was to be tested for nutrient deficientcies, nutrient products and homepathy. Not over the counter medicines. I also think it is down to interpretation. Just like you alot of my major symptoms have not really been helped. Of course part of is was the beleif I had to persist and indeed when detoxing you do. I dont beleive to be as rid of toxic metals as possible a quick fruit, nut and veg diet for 2 months will do it.

I beleive they realy are great pieces of kit but ultimately they can be misread and prejudiced by the practioner dealing with the patient.
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I went to an ND who had a computer program called Phayzx..not sure if I spelled it right. This program is no longer available and had been replaced by QXCI that I think comes out of the same lineage. In the QXCI I saw that there was no similarity in readings from one session to another. With the phayzx every session mirrored the previous showing changes in condition in the initial diagnosis, progress or regression made. I was convinced that this program was the real deal. I used it to determine how far I had to go or continue with cancer treatment, what herbs etc worked for me. Eventually the ND got raided by the feds and the equipment is no longer available. I think there may be someone in NYC who uses it.... and I'm sure hidden in back rooms across the nation. Such a shame.

this is an interesting site I just found: https://www.energy-medicine.info/epfx...um-xrroid.html

The phayzx was remarkably accurate. It really blew my mind. It could track your progress on healing and detox. I got to see the results of the test compared to allopathic diagnosis on a number of different people and it was right on and gave detail not available otherwise.

Later I went to see someone who did QXCI. I was not impressed at all. Difficult to understand the results. not a lot of practical info, mind boggling technical info. You'd have to be PHD microbiologist to understand it all. It could "broadcast" remedies... I have yet to see such type of broadcasts work, either with QXCI or radionics in general. I did not like the QXCI experience. One reading did not reflect the previous at all. A bunch of BS,if you ask me.

Your best bet is a machine that can make a diagnosis and track your detox.
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Lots of people think the QXCI is a quack device. People who use Rife machines and other frequency based treatments. If they think it is bogus, odds are it is.

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I was trying not to be too negative. I can say that I think its bogus.... actually, I saw absolutely nothing in it. But the phazyx, thats an entirely different matter.
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I never have heard of the Phazyx device.

I did have a diagnostic test done with a EAV device of some kind. It used acupuncture points and found H-Pylori and Mycobacterium Avium subspecies Tuberculosis (MAP) bacteria. These are bacteria consistent with Crohn's, but he also knew I had it already so I still do not know if he detected it, or if he just told me what he knew would be the responsible bacteria.

He did tell me he always finds H-Pylori with Crohn's patients, but does not always find the MAP bacteria. This goes against what I think I know about the disease, but that is his contention, and if the machine works, I cannot argue with it.

Either way, I treat for both, so it is not going to matter one way or another in my case.

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