MMS Killed my Herpes

[Harry Hirsute]

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[Arrowwind09]

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[nightowl]

\r\n \r\n I started MMS again on the 13th of this month, and I\'m up to 7 drops as of this evening. I\'ve only been taking it once a day. I would take it more often if the citric acid activator didn\'t have to be refrigerated....does anyone know for sure if refrigeration is necessary? I mix the powder with distilled water. I had a pretty strong reaction last time when I got up to 16 drops, but I really think it was because I may have eaten some bad chicken from a restaurant that day. If so, the MMS definately worked powerfully well at getting rid of the toxins! That\'s why I started at a low dose to be cautious. I want to take the MMS longer to see once and for all whether it will help COPD. Some say it does.\r\n

[Arrowwind09]

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[nightowl]

\r\n \r\n If it\'s not really perishable a three ounces batch should hold up till all is used, but to be safe I could keep half of it refrigerated until I need it. Another possibility is to alternate using Bragg\'s apple cider vinegar for one dose a day and citric acid for the second, but I believe Jim said that was less effective. I add filtered water to make 1/2 cup and I keep ice water made with filtered water in a thermos in my room all day so that wouldn\'t be a problem. I even make the ice with filtered water. Juice tastes better but I have trouble keeping it on hand since the family likes it too. Thanks Arrow, I\'ll try the citric acid first, but what are your thoughts on the vinegar?\r\n

[Doc Dinesh]

\r\n \r\n Comsec, you did not kill your herpes.
\nHerpes is very smart.
\nTo "prove" that you have indeed cured your disease by killing the causative organism, in this case a member of herpes family, you could undertake an experiment:
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\nFor five days, eat foods high in the amino acid arginine and take 2 g of arginine as a supplement per day.Herpes prefers arginine.
\nIf herpes re-appears you have not killed it.
\nIf not, you could wait until it comes back on its own.\r\n

[Arrowwind09]

\r\n \r\n I agree with Doc on this herpes thing. Time will tell.
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\nIt does seem that people who have had herpes issues and have used MMS extensively have been able to generally improve their health and resistance which will of course prevent outbreaks. I hesitate to say that mms finds its way into these nerve cells. It has not fully prevented outbreaks for me. I still find that treatment with Lysine and homeopathy is required as I feel an outbreak approaching. Homeoapthy has done the most overall to prevent outbreaks. I rarely get them anymore and it takes significant stress to bring one on. I hadn\'t had one since I did a lot of MMS last fall. But when I got so terribly sick with Colorado Tick Fever a few weeks ago out it came on my upper lip . 8 grams of Lysine put it in its place quickly.\r\n

[nightowl]

\r\n \r\n This seems like a good site for herpes sufferers and has a very long list of foods with a high ratio of lysine to arginine. I hadn\'t given much thought to arginine in food since learning that I should avoid supplements with arginine after having Shingles several years ago, to prevent a new outbreak.
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\r\n \r\n well I have tried to get a sore,
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\nthat would have caused weeks of pain for me before, but im good
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\nif the strain is still there I dont care, im not getting out breaks LOL\r\n

[dsfavors]

\r\n \r\n what was the protocol that you did and how long did it take?\r\n

[rken]

\r\n \r\n Ditto killed my herpes also. i started getting outbreaks while at 15drop doses twice aday but by the end of the day they were gone..usually it would be a week or more before they disappear. They have not been back since. What foods are high inarginine and I\'ll see if I can create an outbreak. I want to know if its gone or just hiding. Feels gone. The normal things that would bring on an outbreak haven\'t.\r\n

[Herpesgirl]

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Ditto killed my herpes also. i started getting outbreaks while at 15drop doses twice aday but by the end of the day they were gone..usually it would be a week or more before they disappear. They have not been back since. What foods are high inarginine and I\'ll see if I can create an outbreak. I want to know if its gone or just hiding. Feels gone. The normal things that would bring on an outbreak haven\'t.

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Please tell me where I can buy this; I was diagnosed with herpes hsv2 in December. I\'m scared & afraid to take the meds. Does this medicine really work & do they sell it online or at the store? HELP...........\r\n

[ecogenie]

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Please tell me where I can buy this; I was diagnosed with herpes hsv2 in December. I\'m scared & afraid to take the meds. Does this medicine really work & do they sell it online or at the store? HELP...........

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Where can you get what stuff? If it is MMS you can go to Jim Humbles web site. You might also want to look into a zappper.\r\n

[Herpesgirl]

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Where can you get what stuff? If it is MMS you can go to Jim Humbles web site. You might also want to look into a zappper.

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Thanks for giving me the info about the MMS. What is a zapper? It sounds dangerous........\r\n

[ecogenie]

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Thanks for giving me the info about the MMS. What is a zapper? It sounds dangerous........

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Go to www.curezone.com and read the magic about the zapper.\r\n

[Arrowwind09]

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Where can you get what stuff? If it is MMS you can go to Jim Humbles web site. You might also want to look into a zappper.

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Jim Humble does not sell MMS. He only provides information on his website and in books. He sells books but the basic book is a free download.
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[Arrowwind09]

\r\n \r\n The best way to contact Opulence is to send a PM - private message. That will send an email to Opulence and let them know that they have a message here on this forum\r\n

[waiting]

\r\n \r\n Thanks Arrowwind.\r\n

[dsfavors]

\r\n \r\n what protocol and how long did u use it?\r\n

[nightowl]

\r\n \r\n This site seems to have quite a bit of information on herpes, and a list of foods high in arginine.
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\r\nhttps://www.globalherbalsupplies.com/...nformation.htm
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\r\nI\'m happy that MMS is working for you!\r\n

[rken]

\r\n \r\n thanks night owl\r\n

[rken]

\r\n \r\n Some foods high in arginine include nuts, chocolate and caffeine. I should be busting out with herpies if these food are high in arginine. I eat a lot of nuts. i love peanut butter on whole wheat bread and i\'ve been known to eat a little chocolate, like everyday if i can get it and don\'t feel to guilty. I love pepsie to death. maybe the herpies just took over and its not me anymore. lol oh well maybe I did really kill it. I was getting outbreaks pretty regularly before taking MMS now I know why at least monthly and sometimes bi weekly. thanks once again for a good laugh.
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[nightowl]

\r\n \r\n Happy that I was able to help. I was impressed with the long list of foods in relation to Lysine. I\'ve avoided arginine for years because it\'s been said that it can re-activate shingles, a type of herpes, and I shudder to think of that! But I didn\'t know that it needed to be balanced with Lysine. I will say that the article is sure right about sugar being bad, because if I eat sweets it causes the post-herpatic neuralgia to tighten the muscles in my back and shoulder and my back aches...like right now, while I\'m bingeing on chocolate covered raisins! The chocolate is a no-no too. I know, I\'m bad!\r\n

[rken]

\r\n \r\n Well I must have killed the herpies. I go through at least a liter of pepsie a day. Sugar and caffene are supposed to really bring it on. Not to mention on top of that the occational chocolate bing. I love nuts and eat them almost every day. Oh well some will just say its incureable and there is no way to convince them otherwise. So I\'ll just enjoy my chocolate and snicker behind there backs. lol\r\n

[rken]

\r\n \r\n I saved most of the links when I was doing research if you are interested. Here is some of what I found.
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\nGreat info on Stabilized Oxygen. Remember, MMS is simply a more concentrated solution of the same mineral, sodium chlorite ...
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\nhttps://www.info-archive.com/oxy%20vito.htm
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\nHere is a patent application that uses an INTERNAL chlorite solution, injected intravenously, to kill HIV and other pathogens.
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\nhttps://www.patentstorm.us/patents/60...scription.html
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\nExperiments by Dr. J. Berg, of Stanford University support the work of Dr. L.P. Hager, University of Illinois (USA). Namely that the chlorite contained in our Stabilised Oxygen significantly improves the efficiency of the two enzymes, chloroperoxidase and peroxidase, as well as utilizing myeloperoxidas in the leukocytes. There are two interesting outcomes of chlorite utilisation by these enzymes. The first is that the immune system may be directly enhanced by the increased rate of oxidation of foreign material by the leukocytes. The second is an increased ability by all metabolically active cells to scavenge free radicals. According to a report by S. Harakeh Ph.D. of Stanford, the rate of removal of the superoxide radicals by superoxide dismutase (SOD) will be increased as the peroxide removal is enhanced by the chlorite CLO2 . The resultant increased efficiency of the removal of free radicals is interesting in light of the contemporary theories attributing the cause of disease debilitating aspects of aging and onset of cancer to excessive levels of free radicals. The source of free radicals may be environmental or metabolic. Toxic free radicals are harmful free electrons which researchers feel can join with other atoms thus producing mutations which are harmful to the body. Leading researchers also concur on the theory that toxic free radicals may be responsible for a vast range of human ailments.
\nThe chlorite, a major constituent of Stabilised Oxygen, and one of its reaction products (Chlorine dioxide) are extremely effective viricides, bactericides, and fungicides. Chlorine dioxide has been shown to be extremely effective against pathogenic agents such as legionella and enteric viruses such as the poliovirus in our laboratory. Its effectiveness against other viruses has also been demonstrated.
\nIn 1983 Dr. James D. Berg at the Department of Medical Microbiology, at Stanford University School of Medicine, completed several studies on Stabilised Oxygen. Dr. Berg is the holder of two doctorates in medical microbiology and environmental engineering. He had been asked to explore the reasons why Stabilised Oxygen is so successful in treating human and animal disease conditions and in maintaining good health. The scientific literature on other chlorine chemistry is extensive, but studies on the chlorine ion and its role in human biochemistry are limited. Nevertheless, Dr. Berg�s conclusions more than adequately support the existing literature.
\nThe following passage is by Dr. James Berg Ph.D.
\nI shall summarize some potential mechanisms for Stabilised Oxygen as a therapeutic agent. The hypotheses that follow are based on my research with chlorine dioxide and stabilised Oxygen, the research that has been conducted in other laboratories, and the hundreds of testimonials that have been obtained describing the efficacy of Stabilised Oxygen in the treatment of a variety of disorders.The first hypotheses addresses the topical application for the treatment of burns, abrasions and allergic reactions. The other two hypotheses primarily describe potential mechanisms following the ingestion, or when applied topically for the treatment of bacterial and viral infections.When applied topically Stabilised Oxygen may act as an osmotic agent similar to the application of Epsom Salts . The concentration of salts in the S.O. even when applied in a 1% solution, is quite high. The ensuing osmotic gradient would be a sufficient driving force for the removal of toxins and allergenic substances from the skin. The same gradient may in a similar way promote healing by increasing the rate of transport of factors involved in healing in the case of abrasions and burns. The aforementioned mechanism may appear simple, nonetheless it may partially explain the promotion of healing and desensitization of burns and rashes that have been documented.Secondly, in either topical or internal use the Stabilised Oxygen can act as a non-specific biocide. The chlorine, a major constituent of Stabilised Oxygen and one of its reaction products, chlorine dioxide, are extremely effective viricides, bactericides and fungicides as demonstrated at our laboratory. At a physiological pH, the predominant chemical species will be chlorine ion. The chlorine is biocidal, yet less effective against pathogens than chlorine dioxide since it is a less powerful oxidant in the ionic form. At the pH of the stomach (pH 3-4) one can expect chlorine dioxide to be produced from the chlorides. This will be a transient phenomenon ultimately yielding chlorine ion again. This will be absorbed by the body, passed through the lower intestinal tract and excreted by the kidneys. If a substantial dose of S.O. has been taken one could hypothesize that the chlorine and chlorine dioxide would act against any pathogenic microorganisms in the body. This may explain the increase in the efficiency of the enzymes known as peroxidases which are a important component in the immune system since they are involved in the oxidation of foreign material such as viruses and toxins. Our experiments with Stabilised Oxygen were modeled after the work of Dr. Lowell P. Hager at the University of Illinois on chlorine and our results support his findings. That Stabilised Oxygen or the chlorine it contains significantly improves the efficiency of the two enzymes chloroperoxidase and peroxidase. The reactions of another model system utilizing myeloperoxidase and peroxidase in the leukocytes is shown to increase the activity of this enzyme.
\nAdditionally, Dr. Anderson Peoples, Professor of Pharmacology, University of California wrote of the Stabilised Oxygen as follows: I have concluded that as a bactericide and or fungicide, it works primarily on the basis of oxidation, apparently able to supply stimulus to the organism�s own physiological response as well as offering oxidative capacity at a cellular level.
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\nWe consider the Stabilised Oxygen where utilised in vivo, combines with the natural body functions and immune responses to become an effective medication with virtually no toxicity or side effects.\r\n

[nursubiantoro]

\r\n \r\n Herpes is Virus in your blood, and it attack your blood and your skin.
\nI ussualy use VCO "Virjint Coconut Oil" it made from coconut juice. basicaly it work for Anti Oxidant, it can released the poison from the blood and made Anti Body and protect your body from any Deseases.
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[Doc Dinesh]

\r\n \r\n Unfortunately, herpes cannot be killed. No person has ever succeeded in complete killing of herpes through intervention.
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\nHowever, a strong immune system is enemy to herpes family and may keep it in check.
\nA frequent herpes outbreak (fever blisters etc.) means immune system is down.
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\nFurther, herpes may be encouraged by feeding amino acids like ornithine and arginine and by excess omega 6 and grains.\r\n

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Unfortunately, herpes cannot be killed. No person has ever succeeded in complete killing of herpes through intervention.
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\nA frequent herpes outbreak (fever blisters etc.) means immune system is down.
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You are exactly the person I was talking about.(see post above) No one has according to who. Using what. Can you test me know and prove it is not gone. There is no cure for AIDs but people have been cured. Are you a shil for the medical companies. No disrepect but they always say there is no cure until there is one, oops guess we were wrong again. So prove that it didn\'t kill my herpies. I just don\'t understand your mentality. Sorry not buying it.\r\n

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Unfortunately, herpes cannot be killed. No person has ever succeeded in complete killing of herpes through intervention.
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I disagree that Herpes can\'t be killed.
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\r\nI know for a fact that ozone will kill ALL forms of Herpes, although it could take several treatments.
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[venom02]

\r\n \r\n YEA] 09/07/2008: Carl from Philadelphia, PA writes: "I have also had the same experience with MMS. I felt the tingling sensation but I got no actual outbreaks/sores. MMS works very well to destroy bacteria, fungus, parasites, viruses etc. The issue with MMS is that it is fighting the fight against Herpes alone, hence the tingling sensations. MMS cannot to its best ability fully destroy the Herpes virus when it is protected by it lipid coat (Fat coating). Monolaurin (coconut oil) is a supplement that dissolves away and destroys the lipid coating on the Herpes Virus, leaving it naked and exposed to our immune system. Monolaurin is not a drug, therefore, the Herpes Virus does build immunity to it like it does with Valtrex. Many people who use Valtrex claim it stops working for them after 2 years. The reason for this is because the Herpes virus builds an immunity to it, making the virus stronger, smarter and harder to kill. I would not be surprised if the drug companies introduced a new & stronger drug that claims to be much stronger than Valtrex.
\nBy using Monolaurin, which dissolves Herpes\'s lipid coating and also using MMS, which oxidizes and kills the virus along with a healthy diet you will be able to stop all future outbreaks. But please keep in mind that you must eat well and clean your system out. Nobody can claim that there is a cure for Herpes, but I believe the cure for herpes is right in front of us. If everyone in the U.S. with HSV donated $2 (for example) we would have enough money to hire our own researchers, doctors or even help a comapny focusing on this cure see their passion to the end."
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[natglider]

\r\n \r\n I had the misfortune of sleeping with a lady i met Online who had herpes. It wasn\'t until two days later that she informed me. On the third day i had a large red blister appear on my arm which was raised and filled with a clear fluid. I definately had herpes, this thing was disgusting and growing fast. I was so angry.. I checked online to see how long before sypmtoms would appear after first exposure people say between 2-5 days, so this was the nail in the coffin. I jumped online and did some searches for cures. I found people claiming cures from HBOT treatment. Hyperbaric Oxygen Treatment. They put you in a chamber and have you breath pure oxygen. I did 5 days straight, 4 hour sessions at a time. 20 hours all up! By day three the red blister started going down. At the end of the treatment it had completely gone. Viruses cannot survive in an Oxygen rich environment for more than a few minutes. 20 hours of pure oxygen killed every last one of the little buggers.. I was lucky though, i got it when it was still in my blood system. Once it drills into your spinal column, it\'s very hard to get to it, but i may be wrong? I was also taking Monolaurin for 1 month. Monolaurin inhibits Viruses from replicating i believe.\r\n

[Doc Dinesh]

\r\n \r\n We were talking of herpes. The herpes virus family consists of very resourceful members who can outsmart the immune system most of the time.
\nI would suggest you study relevant materials and take more care with your spelling.
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\nAids is not an illness caused by a virus, it is an illness with multiple causes, all of which damage or overwhelm the immune system.
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\nIf you restore the immune system to optimal function you may have a chance to overcome Aids.
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\nSince no virus is involved in causation of Aids, a permanent restoration (cure) of the immune sytem is possible (if not probable).
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[rken]

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[Doc Dinesh]

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[Donee]

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[Doc Dinesh]

\r\n \r\n Problem is that the herpes virus can shed its "body" and thus avoid detection. It can then "flesh" out when conditions are right.
\nClinically it is as elusive and its presence can often only be assumed.
\nHerpes can hide nearly anywhere apparently, nerve tissue is a preferred site.
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[nursubiantoro]

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[rken]

\r\n \r\n It would that seem the least that can be said in regards to MMS use on herpies is that it strengthens the imune system and kills the active virus.
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[Doc Dinesh]

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Yea that says it I have had a oral strain since childhood. I took MMS just for detox and to see if it would kill me, had to make sure LOL. Its been months and not one single sore.

I hate the name, but love the product

Oh and anyone hear if the suppliers have got the letter from the FDA they just sent out, I didnt know if they were on the list of people there trying to shut down