\r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n \r\n\r\n
Go Back Natural Medicine Talk > Health > Heart Health

Thread Tools Display Modes
\r\n <!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n
liverock\'s Avatar\r\n\r\n
\r\n \r\n liverock\r\n liverock is offline\r\n\r\n\r\n
\r\n\r\n
Lecturer
\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n
\r\n\r\n
\r\n
Join Date: Jul 2008
\r\n
Location: Out of sight
\r\n \r\n
\r\n Posts: 1,399\r\n
\r\n \r\n \r\n
liverock is just really niceliverock is just really niceliverock is just really niceliverock is just really niceliverock is just really nice
\r\n \r\n
\r\n
\r\n\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n
\r\n \r\n <!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n <!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n
\r\n \r\nDefault\r\n\r\n Lipoprotein(a) The Real Cause of Heart Disease?\r\n
\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n \r\n\r\n <!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n
\r\n \r\n As most statin drug patents have now run out the cost has dropped to 10% of what they used to cost. Drug companies have therefore been running studies and press campaigns to widen the net of users to make up for the lost profits.
\n
\nThe latest study claims that the side effects are minimal and people claiming are having normal everyday pains they would have whether they took statins or not.
\n
\nNot surprisingly this has infuriated over 500 statin users who are readers of The Daily Telegraph to respond.
\n
\nhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...udy-finds.html
\n
\nFar away from this hubub, Bill Sardi on why the mostly unacknowledged Lipoprotein(a) is really the cause of artery calcification and what to do about it.
\n
\nhttps://tinyurl.com/m63vuvd\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n Reply With Quote\r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n <!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n
\r\n\r\n <!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n
\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 217281 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post 217281 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n
\r\n \r\n
\r\n
\r\n
\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #217281 -' + '->'; pd[217294] = '<!-' + '- post #217294 -' + '->\r\n\r\n <!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n
\r\n
\r\n
\r\n\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n \r\n\r\n
\r\n
\r\n �\r\n #2 �\r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n
\r\n\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n Old\r\n \r\n 03-17-2014, 10:25 AM\r\n \r\n \r\n <!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n
\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n
\r\n\r\n
\r\n \r\n d0ug\r\n d0ug is offline\r\n\r\n\r\n
\r\n\r\n
Guide
\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n
\r\n\r\n
\r\n
Join Date: Nov 2013
\r\n
Location: Dominican Republic
\r\n \r\n
\r\n Posts: 330\r\n
\r\n \r\n \r\n
d0ug will become famous soon enoughd0ug will become famous soon enough
\r\n \r\n
\r\n
\r\n\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n
\r\n \r\n <!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n <!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n
\r\n \r\nDefault\r\n\r\n \r\n
\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n \r\n\r\n <!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n
\r\n \r\n There was a notice sent to all doctors from the FDA in 2012 telling them to take their patience off stains because it causes 52% diabetes and 100% dementia [Alzheimer].
\nEither the doctors don\'t read their notices or it is financially beneficial to push drugs.\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n
\r\n\r\n
\r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n Reply With Quote\r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n <!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n
\r\n\r\n <!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n
\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 217294 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post 217294 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n
\r\n \r\n
\r\n
\r\n
\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #217294 -' + '->'; pd[217388] = '<!-' + '- post #217388 -' + '->\r\n\r\n <!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n
\r\n
\r\n
\r\n\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n \r\n\r\n
\r\n
\r\n �\r\n #3 �\r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n
\r\n\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n Old\r\n \r\n 03-25-2014, 06:18 AM\r\n \r\n \r\n <!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n
\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n
happy2bhere\'s Avatar\r\n\r\n
\r\n \r\n happy2bhere\r\n happy2bhere is offline\r\n\r\n\r\n
\r\n\r\n
Observing cool stuff
\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n
\r\n\r\n
\r\n
Join Date: Aug 2012
\r\n
Location: INternets
\r\n \r\n
\r\n Posts: 728\r\n
\r\n \r\n \r\n
happy2bhere will become famous soon enoughhappy2bhere will become famous soon enough
\r\n \r\n
\r\n
\r\n\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n
\r\n \r\n <!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n <!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n
\r\n \r\nDefault\r\n\r\n \r\n
\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n \r\n\r\n <!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n
\r\n \r\n I feel the FDA knows this too. They are just coverin their booties.
\n NO MEDIA picks up on it, either.
\n
\n*Money is more important than some human. You can never have enough money. Victims are a dime a dozen. Wonder how many "doctors" take the drugs they prescribe?
\n
\n *sarcasm\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n Reply With Quote\r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n <!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n
\r\n\r\n <!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n
\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 217388 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post 217388 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n
\r\n \r\n
\r\n
\r\n
\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #217388 -' + '->'; pd[217401] = '<!-' + '- post #217401 -' + '->\r\n\r\n <!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n
\r\n
\r\n
\r\n\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n \r\n\r\n
\r\n
\r\n �\r\n #4 �\r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n
\r\n\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n Old\r\n \r\n 03-25-2014, 05:39 PM\r\n \r\n \r\n <!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n
\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n
liverock\'s Avatar\r\n\r\n
\r\n \r\n liverock\r\n liverock is offline\r\n\r\n\r\n
\r\n\r\n
Lecturer
\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n
\r\n\r\n
\r\n
Join Date: Jul 2008
\r\n
Location: Out of sight
\r\n \r\n
\r\n Posts: 1,399\r\n
\r\n \r\n \r\n
liverock is just really niceliverock is just really niceliverock is just really niceliverock is just really niceliverock is just really nice
\r\n \r\n
\r\n
\r\n\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n
\r\n \r\n <!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n <!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n
\r\n \r\nDefault\r\n\r\n \r\n
\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n \r\n\r\n <!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n
\r\n \r\n
\r\n
Quote:
\r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n
\r\n \r\n
\r\n Originally Posted by happy2bhere\r\n View Post\r\n
\r\n
I feel the FDA knows this too. They are just coverin their booties.
\nNO MEDIA picks up on it, either.
\n
\n*Money is more important than some human. You can never have enough money. Victims are a dime a dozen. Wonder how many "doctors" take the drugs they prescribe?
\n
\n*sarcasm
\r\n \r\n
\r\n
Not all medics are happy with statins,this vascular surgeon had a dangerously high cholesterol level and eventually came off them and now has even lower levels. A recent poll said 55% of doctors would not take statins or recommend them to relatives.
\n
\nhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/10...-for-good.html
\n.\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n Reply With Quote\r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n <!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n
\r\n\r\n <!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n
\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 217401 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post 217401 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n
\r\n \r\n
\r\n
\r\n
\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #217401 -' + '->'; pd[217394] = '<!-' + '- post #217394 -' + '->\r\n\r\n <!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n
\r\n
\r\n
\r\n\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n \r\n\r\n
\r\n
\r\n �\r\n #5 �\r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n
\r\n\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n Old\r\n \r\n 03-25-2014, 08:24 AM\r\n \r\n \r\n <!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n
\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n
\r\n\r\n
\r\n \r\n jfh\r\n jfh is offline\r\n\r\n\r\n
\r\n\r\n
perpetual student
\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n
\r\n\r\n
\r\n
Join Date: Dec 2007
\r\n
Location: Texas, USA
\r\n \r\n
\r\n Posts: 4,298\r\n
\r\n \r\n \r\n
jfh is a jewel in the roughjfh is a jewel in the roughjfh is a jewel in the roughjfh is a jewel in the rough
\r\n \r\n
\r\n
\r\n\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n
\r\n \r\n <!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n <!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n
\r\n \r\nDefault\r\n\r\n \r\n
\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n \r\n\r\n <!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n
\r\n \r\n I just heard on the local news that more statins may be prescribed. Apparently it has surpassed aspirin as the wonder drug of choice.
\n
\nBut hey.... The world population is unsustainable. Perhaps we should commend the FDA in their efforts to relieve this problem.\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n <!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n
\r\n __________________
\r\n .
\r\n- Jim
\r\n
\r\n"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n
\r\n <!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n Reply With Quote\r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n <!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n
\r\n\r\n <!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n
\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 217394 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post 217394 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n
\r\n \r\n
\r\n
\r\n
\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #217394 -' + '->'; // next/previous post info pn[217281] = "217394,217294"; pn[0] = ",217281"; pn[217294] = "217281,217388"; pn[217388] = "217294,217401"; pn[217401] = "217388,217394"; pn[217394] = "217401,217281"; // cached usernames pu[0] = guestphrase; pu[791] = "liverock"; pu[18643] = "d0ug"; pu[16719] = "happy2bhere"; pu[529] = "jfh"; // -->
Prev Previous PostNext Post Next
� #1
Old 03-14-2014, 07:15 AM
liverock's Avatar
liverock liverock is offline
Lecturer
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Out of sight
Posts: 1,399
liverock is just really niceliverock is just really niceliverock is just really niceliverock is just really niceliverock is just really nice
Default Lipoprotein(a) The Real Cause of Heart Disease?

As most statin drug patents have now run out the cost has dropped to 10% of what they used to cost. Drug companies have therefore been running studies and press campaigns to widen the net of users to make up for the lost profits.

The latest study claims that the side effects are minimal and people claiming are having normal everyday pains they would have whether they took statins or not.

Not surprisingly this has infuriated over 500 statin users who are readers of The Daily Telegraph to respond.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...udy-finds.html

Far away from this hubub, Bill Sardi on why the mostly unacknowledged Lipoprotein(a) is really the cause of artery calcification and what to do about it.

https://tinyurl.com/m63vuvd
Reply With Quote
Please reply to this thread with any new information or opinions.

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Reversing Heart Disease kind2creatures Heart Health 13 12-03-2012 10:06 AM
Is Bi-Polar a Real Disease? limitme Mental Health 24 05-06-2011 12:00 PM
Meta-analysis Reveals �Heart Healthy Omega-6 Fat� Increases Risk of Heart Disease Ted_Hutchinson Heart Health 3 12-05-2010 05:30 AM
Heart disease ...at 15 knightofalbion Heart Health 1 11-27-2010 03:23 AM