lizard people ! do you believe in them ??

[Solstice Goat]

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[Mad Scientest]

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[D Bergy]

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[kal-el]

\r\n \r\n thanks for your comments everyone , this is a tough one for people to believe in i no , when i first heard about this my response was like \' are your mad \' but after reading and listening to various sources literally saying the same thing about these beings i have become certain that there is some truth behind it and of course they are not gonna show themselves openly to us i mean if i was one of them i would definatley stay hidden as most people are afraid of what they do not understand and we all know what fear can do to people especially on a large scale .
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\nfor me itis definate that we are not alone in the universe like how can there be life on only one planet out of god knows how many and with the theory of other dimensions or planes of existance it seems to be very likely that wer not alone , but that is my belief system , itis possible that if they do exist then they may have set up these stories or myths to make us fear them for there own protection .
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\nfor me is a very interesting subject and i agree with you mad scientist that this could be an interesting year espeically if we do become fourth dimensional at the least , there is alot of symbolism ouut there based on these reptile/serpent beings for one is the alpha romeo symbol which clearly shows a man being eaten by a large snake and with the european and asians fascination if you wana call it with dragons and crocs in africa and serpents in egyptian mythology i dont think is a coincidence but again thats my belief .
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\ngood point solstice - they were supposed remains of giants found in various places wheather this is hoax or not i cannot prove - there is also stories of advanced techology found under the giza pyramids and sarcophagus containing large skeletal remains .
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they were supposed remains of giants found in various places wheather this is hoax or not i cannot prove - ............... also being the symbol for the illuminati .

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[Solstice Goat]

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[revzen]

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\nI have a memory of an alien appearing in my bedroom in Star Trek fashion - just materializing! When I\'ve told people they say I must have been drunk or on drugs! I was stone cold sober - but I know it happened and is true.
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\nI worry not about what others say as I know my experiences were all true! The truth is their are going to be a lot of shocked souls when they leave their earthly vehicle!!! Luckily I have been somewhat prepared by my NDE and am looking forward to going Home!
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\nThe extent to how much we\'ve been lied to by the System will shock many people. Departments of the System include politics, religion and education; the orthodox view in my opinion is corrupt. It is said that we only see 0.005% of whats out there!!!
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\nPeople need to detox from the System, and thankfully people are doing so - begin by unplugging the Idiot Box/TV set, research everything! Trust no one.
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[kal-el]

\r\n \r\n revsen , this alien you speak of materializing or beaming into your bedroom was it of reptilian appearance or grey or something else ? im interested in this as i love hearing peoples personal stories encounters ect . you say no problem with reptilian beings and nor should thier be are you suggesting that they mean no harm or that they are no threat and arent the monsters virtually everyone else that has info on them say they are ? if so you would be one of the first ive heard people to say this as others state that they are blood drinkers , rapists , ritualists , power and control hungry and just down right evil BUT extremely intellegent dangerous entities that believe were are nothing more than sheep , however i do also think that these stories are designed to create fear among us like everything in the world today , all you hear on the news in the papers is someones been stabbed , raped ect ect on a daily basis and for years myself and my brother have been trying to get people we no to turn the tv off throw it out the window and start researching so on the same page there with you man .
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\nalso alot of info out there is dis-info and like mad scientist says in his last sentence above which i think are wise words . yeah i read a smiliar statistic that said there are something like 11millions bits of information going into the brain per minute and that we can only process 40 bits of that information which if true is unbelievable .
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\nalso mad scientist that we are many lights website is just great thanks for that .
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\nand is there a real stargate ? this is a great conspiracy as i love the show wich also is built on conspiracys where you have the enemy in sg-1 known as the goa\'uld wich are snake like parasites that take a host and enslave a population who force them to worship them as gods from various earth mythologies who before taking human hosts they took the host of a race of creatures called the una\'s which were reptilian beings , they also have greys , secret organisations , cover ups ect and the show is great but in my opinion like many movies - tv shows that are about ET\'s are based on a reptilian theme as are countless movies that are not entirely based on ET\'s .
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[revzen]

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[kal-el]

\r\n \r\n yes definatley think there is something going on with the stargate show not just SG1 but also stargate atlantis where of course the legend of the lost city and ascension not to mention these wraith enemy beings that suck human energy for the survival kinda like vampires who have the vertical slits for eyes and towards to end of the show look more and more reptilian in the skin , interesting about the twins towers i had not noticed that but wasnt the destruction of the twin towers actually shown in the simpsons many years ago as like a hint to whats gonna happen ? and there a youtube video that shows demon faces in the smoke like various different faces , weather this is just computer enhanced or not i dont no but also i found that interesting . i heard that too about a council of good ET\'s removing them the andromedans or something i do remember watching alex collier speak of these , definatley agree with you that we have to deal with the left over human factions carefully - god the future is gonna be interesting isnt it interesting time to be alive hopefully we will se the system crash and see great changes for humanity finally happen - have you heard about the chinese trying to buy up the large corporations around the world but i think more in america ? america is like mainly where this is all taking place i think but i believe there will a one hell a battle and we could see things worsen for a while before they improve maybe .
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[revzen]

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\nKal-el, about the alien who materialized in front of me. I only remember seeing the materialization - I am trying to recover the full memory. My memories are fragmented! I know that my abductions began when I was around 4 or 5, maybe earlier! I began realizing things were not what they seemed when "they" began messing with my dreams - they gave me what I call "screen dreams". The screen dreams were poor imitations of the dreams I normally had! They were not amused when I would say this isn\'t a real/natural dream, because it interfered with their plans!
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\nThe Security Services(MI5,MI6,CIA,MOSSAD etc)have devices which implant thoughts into peoples minds, so the story that we are manipulated by various alien races such as the reptilians is a red herring for the most part! Very convenient too! Much like the church\'s use of demons, a convenient cover story which breeds fear in the uneducated! In all my years of paranormal research I have never come across a demon! And I have seen some far fetched wacky stuff!
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[Mad Scientest]

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[kal-el]

\r\n \r\n ah , stewart swerdlow seen many of his vids online is where i got some of the reptilian info from aswell as montauk and the Philadelphia experiment - he is a psychic isnt he ? remember watching one interview with him saying he was tortured over and over again or something for experimental purposes , another researcher i came across was peggy kane who does this reverse e.v.p. on various political peoples speachs and stuff where she can detect the subliminal messages being transmitted .
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\nyeah il check out those vids thanks .
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\nand what is your opinion on ascension ? i am in arguement with my brother about this all the time where i think itis where you reach a certain level of consciousness and leave the body rising to a higher plane of existance living as pure energy or just energy - he disagrees he thinks itis where you just become fully conscious and all the answers you want are given to you - i think that once ascended you begin a journey to obtain this knoweldge .\r\n

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\nand what is your opinion on ascension ? i am in arguement with my brother about this all the time where i think itis where you reach a certain level of consciousness and leave the body rising to a higher plane of existance living as pure energy or just energy - he disagrees he thinks itis where you just become fully conscious and all the answers you want are given to you - i think that once ascended you begin a journey to obtain this knoweldge .

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true ascension is when we leave the body physically due to death.
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[kal-el]

\r\n \r\n those videos that casbolt fella is talking about transhumanism is very interesting , reptilians warring with cyborgs and he mentions that saturn is satan , saying that lucifer belial and thoth ect are coming - question about lucifer his name is translated as light brigher and morning star ect he is portrayed as being the kind of ultimate bad guy but translation of his name doesnt exactly sound like that of a bad guy i no its just a name but i wonder if he really is the evil we are led to believe his is , also if belial was his father or the one who told him to lead the rebellion in heaven him being the first fallen angel and all that . think this casbolt is brainwashed a bit but he has some great info going for him , talking about killing drug dealers and stuff to admit that on youtube is kinda stupid but all in all was a good watch . the synthetic telepathy ive heard of before where they putt advanced tech inside the body , remote viewing ect .\r\n

[kal-el]

this post is just to see if anyone else may share my belief on the conspiracy surrounding reptilian beings or lizard people controlling , manipulating every aspect of our way of life since ancient times and there presence here along with other ET's such as the greys , nordics and even the demonic or vampires .

ive been into this subject for quite some time and know there are many people who believe and many who dont , ive listen to many different experts like david icke , jordan maxwell , alex collier , stewart swerdlow , peggy kane and her reverse EVP among a few others and i am fully sold on this , i also belive that the myths surrounding some of the so called gods from various cultures like the greeks , egyptians , sumerians ect are these reptilians and other alien beings aswell as the myths of hell , demons and vampires where they are said to be monstrous blood drinkers from the alpha draco star system ( draco as in dracula ) who dwell within the earth surrounded by fire brimmstone and people being tortured and eaten alive . i also belive that humans were originally very intellegent telepathic spirtual beings before the lizard bastards started interfering with our genetics and vibrational essences thousands of years ago and that everything we have been told is a blatent lie and everything about the world we live in is designed to create fear and suffering to keep people distracted from there true capabilites such as ascension and becoming one with our true creator ect .

they control the royal families , media , entertainment , banking systems , governement obviously, other ET's , the medical industry which i belive our immune systems were altered long ago so that the drugs and diseases they created would profit them and there organisations and also decrease our longevity , they control alot more but mostly our minds through tv , radio and constant fear being pumped into us keeping us sheep like and making us more easily controllable .
they are afraid of us reaching our true potential and i also believe that unless people wake up and realise what is going on and stick together instead of warring and fighting with each other than this wil never end , we must see the true evil in our world and work together to raise our awareness to get ridd of the evil peices of shit for ever so that we can evolve as we shouldve done a very long time ago.

after reading this some may think im wacko , some may not but if you think your in control of your lives and that your free then your wacko . there is partial evidence and even some evidence of these creatures and some very intellegent people trying to educate / awaken us out there you just need to open your mind to the possibilty , you all know that something is wrong with the world you just need to know who and what is responsible for it we are all victims and its time it stopped .

does anybody else beleive this ???