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\nI am new to this forum so I apologize if this has already been discussed. Also, you should know that I am writing this not only as a loving husband but as someone who is very new to the holistic approach to healthy living.
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\nMy wife has been dealing with an ever-worsening, severe degree of back and neck pain for about a year now. We have been trying everything we can think of.
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\nA little bit about her:
\nShe is a very healthy individual and abides by strict health practices. She performs liver and gull bladder flushes and detoxes at least twice a year, eats regular portions of fruits and vegetables, stays away from bread and unhealthy grains and takes herbal supplements like they were going out of style (but not to an unhealthy degree, mind you). She has several nutrition certifications as well.
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\nUpon her recent visit to the Chiropractor, she discovered that her Atlas bone in her spine is completely twisted. This, according to the Chiropractor, is what is causing her an immense amount of pain and discomfort which radiates from that particular bone all the way down her neck, into her shoulder blade region and into her side on her rib cage.
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\nWhat she/we have tried thus far:
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\nDespite having tried all (and probably more, that I just can\'t think of at the moment) of these options, she is still in extreme pain. Even to the point where she is losing sleep.
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\nYou should also know that she now has regularly-scheduled appointments to the aforementioned Chiropractor.
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\nI understand that I may not be able adjust the problematic Atlas bone overnight, nor can the Chiropractor. I am simply trying to help my wife not be in as much pain as she is now. It has gotten to the point where she has broken down in tears strictly because the pain is so unbearable.
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\nIf there are any husbands or wives out there who can relate or even imagine what grief this is causing my wife and I, then I urge you to please respond with any helpful information, ideas or feedback that may remedy or at least "mask" her pain.
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\nThank you for your time, and like I mentioned above, your feedback and prayers are most appreciated.
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\r\n \r\n Welcome Mark, sorry to hear you wife is in so much pain...and very kind of you to search for a solution for her. I\'m only familiar with neck and back pain due to muscle tension and inflammation. In those cases, massage with Magnesium Oil, MSM (methyl-sulfonyl-methane) capsules, and Magnesium Citrate or Malate supplements may help. I would advise her not to take Ibuprofen, too many bad side effects. She might also try White Willow Bark, it\'s a natural form of aspirin, but must be taken regularly to feel results. https://www.natmedtalk.com/wiki/White_Willow
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\nAs far as over the counter rubs, I\'ve had some relief in the past with Lasting Touch brand, I don\'t know if it\'s available where you live, but I bought it in a health food store. It is an analgesic gel with menthol, camphor, capsaicin, MSM, Chondroitin, Glucosamine and Arnica. If she has the time, Epsom salt baths can be very soothing also. Two pounds of salt per bath, and 40 minutes to soak. Sending warm thoughts your way.\r\n
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\r\n \r\n Dear kind2creatures,
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\nThank you for your courteous and most swift reply. I forwarded your response to my wife via email. I will touch base with her and let you know if and when any/all of your suggestions help.
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\nThank you once again and God Bless!
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\r\n \r\n Welcome Markybarky,for a start if it was me I would not be having Chiro or massage on my back as that could be making it worse,if the Chiro was working it should be getting better not worse, Kind2creatures has given you some good tips as far as the pain goes.
\n I do not know where you live but If you have a qualified Bowen/ Bowtech Therapist in your area I would be trying one of them as the treatment is much more gentle than Chiro or massage,and much more effective for most conditions and most times only needs a couple of treatments to help with the problem,you can look up Bowen therapy on the Internet to find out what it is all about,I hope your wife soon finds relief from her pain.\r\n
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\nThank you so much as well for you suggestions and taking the time to respond. Upon further research of the Bowen Technique, I did discover a few possibilities near to us for therapists who have at least dabbled in this intriguing technique. I also took the time to watch some youtube videos on this and found it to be quite interesting. I have already contacted a therapist in a city near us but have not received a response, probably due to the weekend. I will try my best to keep everyone posted.
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I just want to check in and see if your wife was able to find a solution. Celery juice helped me with my back pain. It's not a complete remedy, but should alleviate some of her pain.

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