the cancer industry

� #1 � 10-19-2005, 12:41 PM

Have you ever thought something like this?

The cancer industry is based on an elaborate pretence. The 'experts' know what causes cancer and that it can be cured quite easily without 'slash, burn, poison' treatment. They, and their government paymasters, keep this under wraps because it would not be in their interests for such a multi-million dollar industry, one that employs God-knows-how-many thousands of researchers, professors, surgeons, oncologists, radiologists, technicians, epidemiologists etc, one that generates huge profits for the drug companies, to grind to a permanent halt.

Not normally a conspiracy theorist sucker nor having paranoid tendencies I began to entertain the possibility of a cancer conspiracy orchestrated by government, drug companies, research institutions after reading an article on the late Sir Richard Doll who first established the smoking/cancer causal link in the late 50s. He described what happened after, in 1957, he presented incontrovertible evidence of the link to the British Department of Health. "They set up an inter-departmental committee to advise on what should be done. They said - and I've seen the report - that it would be very serious if smoking was reduced, not just because tax would decrease, but because they like people to die off at 65 to save their pensions. The committee was chaired by theTreasury. And as result it was decided to do nothing."

� #2 � 10-20-2005, 08:57 AM

You are a victim of terminal bullshit.

� #3 � 10-21-2005, 12:41 AM

The World has moved on since the 1950's and the cynical 'report's of arrogant public servants. Also methinks you are a victim of the conspiracy syndrome. Nothing can be kept secret these days, conspiracies require enormous overheads and resources to maintain - people gossip. Move on and enjoy life..

As a postscript there is serious research going on to extend life expectancy almost indefinitely at a physical level equal to 18 ~ 25 year old - alas not in my lifetime but there is megabucks being invested into controlling cell apotheosis - now that is really going to fuck with pensions and taxation!!!!

RubyTuesday · � #4 � 04-18-2006, 10:18 PM

Actually, cancer as an "industry" is not at all far-fetched. Someone who has been studying this industry for a long time is Ralph Moss, and he has some insightful commentary about the industrial nature of cancer in our country and the world.

Is There a Cancer Conspiracy?

Quote:

The American Cancer Society (ACS) recently conducted a telephone survey and found some disturbing trends. In particular, its pollsters discovered that 27 percent of Americans believe that a cure for cancer already exists "but it is being withheld from the public in order to increase profits." According to the poll, another 14 percent of Americans aren't sure if this proposition is accurate, but will not dismiss the possibility. Not good news for an organization based on raising money for an impending cure!

The ACS is clearly appalled by the fact that such a large percentage of the American public believes what the ACS characterizes as the "urban myth" of a secret cancer cure, and sees it as a sign of the ignorance of the lay population. But I think there is a deeper explanation, and it is one that the ACS would do well to heed. My interpretation is that the public's wariness on this issue indicates a healthy skepticism and a pervasive distrust of the repeated bland reassurances that everything is going well in the 34-year-old war on cancer.

I have often been accused of fueling cancer conspiracy theories. However, as early as the 1970s I spoke out strongly against such theories. In my first book, The Cancer Industry, I wrote: "Not only is there no hard evidence that such a conspiracy to suppress a known cure for cancer exists, but such a theory defies logic as well" (1980).

I pointed to the obvious fact that leaders of the cancer establishment themselves are not immune to cancer and in fact often die of it. Also, at that time the pharmaceutical industry was already pouring tens of millions of dollars into the search for effective treatments.

But even though I don't subscribe to the notion that there is a conspiracy to withhold a cure, I do emphatically feel that potentially useful methods are being willfully ignored. "The important point," as I said in The Cancer Industry, "is that the suppression of unorthodox methods - and the promotion of the orthodox approach - takes place mainly at an unconscious level. It is an outgrowth of underlying economic and social trends rather than conscious design. This may explain the opposition of members of the establishment itself�to this explanation, since they swim in the sea of this establishment, and are rarely conscious of its pressure all around them.

"[T]he evidence points to the fact that it is the system itself, rather than any particular clique of individuals, which is really to blame for failure to make progress against the cancer problem. In particular, the fact that cancer management is itself a big business means that it must function according to the rules of profit-oriented institutions."

A quarter of a century later, I still believe this is true. Yes, the flat-out conspiracy theory is nonsense and easily refuted. But the fact remains that the system itself strongly favors highly profitable treatments and relegates less profitable ones to the netherworld of banned or so-called "unproven" treatments.

More at: https://www.cancerdecisions.com/072405.html

dawna · � #5 � 05-21-2009, 06:25 PM

good grief.

A cure exists, as my husband had to go to Mexico to get treated, his doctor knew about the treatment and answered his question "what is ultrasound treatment for cancer?" with "yes, you could go to Mexico and get HIFU but I wouldn't go to Mexico for something not FDA approved".. He made the treatment sound like you'd be treated in someone's garage. When, in fact, his doctor had phoned the doctor who goes to Mexico to treat people and asked to be trained in the HIFU technique, he had said, "I know it's the future". So, he pooh pooed HIFU just to make money selling his surgery, which comes with a great possibility of side effects, and reoccurance.

The FDA won't approve it because the Board of Directors is made up of 3/4 surgeons and 1/4 radiologists.....radiation & surgery never had to go through clinical trials....

HIFU was invented 66 years ago in America!!!

It's in use in China for bone, breast, pancreatic, kidney, liver, prostate, brain, etc (any tumor) with great success. They also treat people in Europe for 18 years with HIFU (High Intensity Focused Ultrasound), prostate cancer has a 94% cure rate.

Funny thing--you all prove it--we are so brain washed that we are the best country on earth--that they have license to kill us.

It's written up on wikipedia, but unless our doctor tells us we don't know to look it up ~~~ unless someone tells you about it....like me. High intensity focused ultrasound - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
My husband saw Dr. S. Scionti, find him at www.internationalHIFU.com. No side effects what-so-ever. But, the best advice I can give is make sure your doctor has had much practice, as experience is the key to success, Dr. Scionti has done 400 HIFU on prostate cancer.

So, if they know of a cure but won't tell us...then they probably know what causes it. damn

BTW, my dad said everyone knew smoking caused cancer back in 1945, when he quit.

Arrowwind09 · � #6 � 05-21-2009, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Bell

Not normally a conspiracy theorist sucker nor having paranoid tendencies I began to entertain the possibility of a cancer conspiracy orchestrated by government, drug companies, research institutions after reading an article on the late Sir Richard Doll who first established the smoking/cancer causal link in the late 50s. He described what happened after, in 1957, he presented incontrovertible evidence of the link to the British Department of Health. "They set up an inter-departmental committee to advise on what should be done. They said - and I've seen the report - that it would be very serious if smoking was reduced, not just because tax would decrease, but because they like people to die off at 65 to save their pensions. The committee was chaired by theTreasury. And as result it was decided to do nothing."

Yea, this is a real old post and these folks aren't around these days dawna, but most of us here currently are in this conspiracy club. We are sick of the BS and the death and suffering brought on by our fine institutions.
Lou Dobbs on CNN this evening had a mom on who's son was cured of Hodgkin’s Disease in '95 and she told about it on his show! They used to alternative meds from Canada! which she named but I didn't hear. Guess I should see if I can find that program on the net.

dawna · � #7 � 05-21-2009, 07:16 PM

Lou Dobbs is on again tonight, 2AM my time on CNN.

yeah, I noticed it was really old after I clicked submit post....it was on the list at the bottom of my other post...oh well, it's not old news!!

Arrowwind09 · � #8 � 05-22-2009, 11:35 AM

This is it. I found it. His name is Billy Best. They showed him on Lou Dobbs last night also. A really fine looking young man at age 26 now. I searched Dobbs website and they did not post the story. 714X, from Canada is what he used along with Essiac and nutritional changes for Hodgkin’s Disease, which he no longer has.

Billy Best

Cancer agency won't study alternative therapy - The Boston Globe

"Billy also used 714X for 6 months. This is an all natural injection that boosts the immune system and is manufactured in Canada. For more information about this treatment call CERBE Distribution in Quebec, the manufacturer of 714X at (819) 564-7883 or Sue and Bill Best at (508) 378-2274. " from Billy's website

dawna · � #9 � 05-23-2009, 06:32 AM

I wonder about this 714X. It is injected camphor, nitrogen salts, and mineral salts...let's figure that out....why would it work?

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