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Cooking with sesame oil may have benefits for those with type 2 diabetes...https://www.naturalnews.com/039891_se...lthy_fats.html
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Controlling your diet and intake of sugars is the best way to control diabetes 2. I have known some that are easily taught to change their lifestyle and their diabetes is nearly nonexistent; then others that try but with no success. You have to really want to be well and know only a change in lifestyle will produce something positive.

If you keep doing what you are doing, no doubt you will keep getting the same result.

For those that want to get rid of type 2 diabetes the BX Antitoxin has proven to give near 100 percent cure results. It was researched and developed for cancer but the scientists found some added benefits, it cures many autoimmune diseases as well. Gives us new insight into causes and responses to other diseases.
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For those that want to get rid of type 2 diabetes the BX Antitoxin has proven to give near 100 percent cure results.

Care to post links to the studies?
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The statistics I got was from the scientist behind the BX Antitoxin that I had the pleasure of being introduced to by my daughter's doctor whom is also instrumental in clinically researching and the BX. From both I am able to ask and get very informative answers.

In a recent email I asked about the use of the BX Antitoxin with type I Diabetes:
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Good evening, I have a doctor with a patient that is very ill with type I diabetes. I do understand from Dr. XXXX that type II diabetes responds excellent if I can quote him correctly, he noted a near 99.99% recovery is possible for type II; however, what recovery rate statistically found for type I diabetes?
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About 40%. However generally about 90% actually show significant improvement

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You or anyone can go to this link, [ https://mybxprotocol.com/jesichashope ] the left hand side there is a link to 'conditions treated'; the list is all those diseases or conditions they have found a positive result.
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About 40%. However generally about 90% actually show significant improvement

The names removed for security reasons.

You or anyone can go to this link, [ https://mybxprotocol.com/jesichashope ] the left hand side there is a link to 'conditions treated'; the list is all those diseases or conditions they have found a positive result.

40 to 90 isn't 100% cure, as you posted before. Without a scientific study, you cannot quote a success rate.
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When I mentioned near 100 percent, as I has been told. In my letter to the head scientist I used myself the 90 percent - I do not like to say 99.9 or 100 percent as others may use based on their use, but I try to be conservative. The rate of 40 percent as you can read comes from the reply of the scientist.
As you mentioned without studies there are no statistics; many ask me this and because this type of treatment for diabetes arose from their use of the BX for cancer as they were researching. It has been studied privately for 18 years, there are hundreds and hundreds that used this serum and they have their own studies. It is not independently available, and the it is the research institute right to make it available or not. Remember naturally based treatments do not go through the same types of trials which gain statistical reports. Holistic treatments gain statistics through its use. The BX has been publicly available through the research institute for one year, released last April. Because of this you will find rare postings of people that have used it, I have talked to many and have had the direct experience of having some of our support clients using it. So far I am impressed. You can look through the link I added, you can gain more information there. It is natural to be skeptical but it has demonstrated no side effects over the 18 years, for someone seeking hope for diabetes or cancer among two conditions treated with it; one would seek it based on what is so far available.
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When I mentioned near 100 percent, as I has been told. In my letter to the head scientist I used myself the 90 percent - I do not like to say 99.9 or 100 percent as others may use based on their use, but I try to be conservative. The rate of 40 percent as you can read comes from the reply of the scientist.
As you mentioned without studies there are no statistics; many ask me this and because this type of treatment for diabetes arose from their use of the BX for cancer as they were researching. .

While I don't mind conjecture for acne or eczema, especially when we are talking about a $5 herb, oil, or tincture;

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The cost of treatment will depend on the condition of the patient; what clinic and protocols the doctor chooses. Typically the cost will be near 20,000 to 30,000, covering the stay, medical equipment, medication, in house treatments and after home care.



30k with no scientific study, claiming this protocol cures both cancer AND Ty I diabetes sounds like fraud to me.
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I think you are misinformed and taking quotes from the site regarding one thing for another; apples cannot be compared to oranges. The serum I discussed here does not cost that; you are talking about the cost of a typical clinical stay for several modalities prescribed, whatever equipment, supplements etc are all taken into account.

Would I or anyone else faced with cancer spend 20 or 30 thousand or more for a curative treatment? I would, I did. Do you have any idea the cost of conventional treatments that do not work, 50 to 80 thousand a month and you talk about 20 or 30 thousand total? We are talking cancer, not diabetes.

"30k with no scientific study, claiming this protocol cures both cancer AND Ty I diabetes sounds like fraud to me. "

The 30K is NOT for the BX we mentioned; you either deliberately misquoted or did not clearly read anything. The site clearly states resources are for cancer, but to discuss other conditions, one may ask a doctor regarding it. The treatments listed on our site as resources for cancer treatments are all available and administered by veteran professionals, all clinics are all approved and have grade A ratings by the particular country they operate in. Fraud is a word that is highly inappropriately used. These doctors and clinics are well regarded, their success rate far out weighs conventional cancer centers and fraud would never enter your description of a conventional cancer center.

We were talking about diabetes and I offered a simple statement of what I had learned from talking to two well renowned scientist/ doctors. When oncologist, naturapathic conferences regard this scientific breakthrough, I would say, it is not fraud but something of interest. Remember, when penicillin was first discovered they used in for the military, no one knew about it; it was held as a secret. When a doctor used it as a new drug with no public evidence, I wonder what you might have said. My mother in law said she would take a chance and had it used on my husband, a baby dying; it worked, sometimes you have to believe in breakthroughs.

I am not out to sell anything, have no interest in this; I have no motive to push something; we are a resource center offering support and help to those seeking alternative treatments, it is all about giving of yourself. When you are sick, you find many will feel sorry for you, few will take the steps to reach out and really help you.
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We were talking about diabetes and I offered a simple statement of what I had learned from talking to two well renowned scientist/ doctors.
Could you explain why it's a security issue to name the renowed scientist & doctor doing the research?
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I think you are misinformed and taking quotes from the site regarding one thing for another; apples cannot be compared to oranges. The serum I discussed here does not cost that; you are talking about the cost of a typical clinical stay for several modalities prescribed, whatever equipment, supplements etc are all taken into account.

Would I or anyone else faced with cancer spend 20 or 30 thousand or more for a curative treatment? I would, I did. Do you have any idea the cost of conventional treatments that do not work, 50 to 80 thousand a month and you talk about 20 or 30 thousand total? We are talking cancer, not diabetes.

"30k with no scientific study, claiming this protocol cures both cancer AND Ty I diabetes sounds like fraud to me. "

The 30K is NOT for the BX we mentioned; you either deliberately misquoted or did not clearly read anything. The site clearly states resources are for cancer, but to discuss other conditions, one may ask a doctor regarding it. The treatments listed on our site as resources for cancer treatments are all available and administered by veteran professionals, all clinics are all approved and have grade A ratings by the particular country they operate in. Fraud is a word that is highly inappropriately used. These doctors and clinics are well regarded, their success rate far out weighs conventional cancer centers and fraud would never enter your description of a conventional cancer center.

We were talking about diabetes and I offered a simple statement of what I had learned from talking to two well renowned scientist/ doctors. When oncologist, naturapathic conferences regard this scientific breakthrough, I would say, it is not fraud but something of interest. Remember, when penicillin was first discovered they used in for the military, no one knew about it; it was held as a secret. When a doctor used it as a new drug with no public evidence, I wonder what you might have said. My mother in law said she would take a chance and had it used on my husband, a baby dying; it worked, sometimes you have to believe in breakthroughs.

I am not out to sell anything, have no interest in this; I have no motive to push something; we are a resource center offering support and help to those seeking alternative treatments, it is all about giving of yourself. When you are sick, you find many will feel sorry for you, few will take the steps to reach out and really help you.
I cannot take you seriously until you can post clinical studies on a 'miracle drug' that cures both cancer and Ty I and Ty II diabetes. The patholoy regarding diabeties and cancer are worlds apart.

I had linked the website I got the quote from, but it seems that someone deemed it prudent to remove the link. The website had the same logo you're using as your avatar, so I'm reasonably sure that is the site you mention in previous posts.
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Cookie - the doctors are Dr Smith and Dr Jimenez no security but some sites do not like posting certain things,
Solstice Goat - sorry you feel this way; but then if you look carefully at many treatments, like say Penicillin - used to treat many conditions all related in some remote way; why does BX work for other conditions other than cancer? Allow the scientists to determine, that is not my job; only that they discovered it did as they treated people with cancer with diabetes and found it too improved or disappeared. Many breakthroughs throughout history have been found this way.
The link that was removed, went to our cancer treatment resource information; had no bearing on BX directly.
I believe too many people are so ingrained with science having to prove all things or they do not exist that they fail to use their logic and intuition; could we not say the same thing for God, there is no scientific evidence yet most put their faith, their lives in God's hands.
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Sounds like Essiac would be just as good or better, with lots of research and anecdotal evidence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essiac
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Essiac is a very good option, I will agree. It has its limitations though. My daughter wanted to use it but was told by some experts using it that her particular port would dissolve so it was not an option.
Sure bet I will have some people say it is not true and others that used it with certain ports but would you take a chance and say have a melted port to have surgery on or bleed to death? Suffice to say, there are limitations to everything, we just have to think out of the box and do what you feel is right.
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Solstice Goat - sorry you feel this way; but then if you look carefully at many treatments, like say Penicillin - used to treat many conditions all related in some remote way; why does BX work for other conditions other than cancer? Allow the scientists to determine, that is not my job; only that they discovered it did as they treated people with cancer with diabetes and found it too improved or disappeared. .

Don't apologize, post the clinical data. If you're hawking something you haven't examined the data for, you should be ashamed.

So is it 100% or 40% for;

Ty I Diabeties
Ty II Diabetes
Cancer (I'll let you tell us the types of cancer)


Anyway, I believe this is the clinic in Tijuana.

More on the Tijuana cancer treatment center phenomenon.
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Don't apologize, post the clinical data. If you're hawking something you haven't examined the data for, you should be ashamed. Hawking something? Perhaps you did not clearly understand, I have no affiliation with anyone, we are our own entity, a resource and support site ONLY - we gain our income off my daughter's designs, want to buy a baby dress? It was her site; I took it over, her designs still support us. You can not Hawk something if you are not selling anything, and I am not hawking baby dresses.

So is it 100% or 40% for;

Ty I Diabeties 40% see recovery, 90% see some improvement - as stated by the doctor that invented it.
Ty II Diabetes 99% see recovery - as stated by doctor seeing these results

Cancer (I'll let you tell us the types of cancer) As stated by doctor that invented it, all types of cancers see positive results. Survival for any treatment is dependent upon the condition of the person and what previous treatments they have undergone, this holds true for anyone and any treatment.


Anyway, I believe this is the clinic in Tijuana. This article was written with a bias towards conventional treatments, they advocate chemotherapy and radiation; they also reviewed numerous clinics - the institute that invented the BX is NOT a clinic; therefore not listed. I personally went to one of the clinics and my daughter's cancer was reversed, that was Hope 4 Cancer. I would dare say, you could not barge into Sloan Kettering and demand statistics and data from any doctor, the NYPD would soon be giving you three square meals for a bit. Holds true for any other hospital, just try it. I cannot say about the others, I have heard very good reports regarding Oasis of Hope, it has been there a long time. And the Mexican government is very strict by the way; many clinics are closed for reasons of not complying.

If this site advocates all conventional treatments and treats people like criminals for mentioning something new and natural; which we know do not undergo trials, but peer statistics then this the wrong place to discuss natural health.
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