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Old 04-09-2013, 09:03 AM
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Hi all,

I finally decided to tell you my whole story. I feel that I need urgent help or something really dangerous can happen to me.

About 8 months ago, at the age of 23yo, I had an unprotected sexual contact, oral and passive. I also kissed the girl considerably a lot, but no intercourse was done.

A few days after the contact, I started to fill pain on my right testicle and I was diagnosed with epididimitys by an urologist. I had (and still have a brown strain cover half of my glans). I was given two antibiotics, Levofloxacin and Azitromicin. The latter did nothing for me, whereas with the first I was much more confortable. I did it for 14 days, but pain didn't go away. I return to the doc, which gave me 3 weeks more, because I made some progress and the presumable bacteria could be near from death.

Didn't work. He than decided to change antibiotics, to Rocephin (injectable) and Vibramicin (2 weeks). None of these work and I decided to stop antibiotics forever. In conjunction with antibiotics I was given 2 anti-inflammatories, which clearly relieved my pain. I had a very strong 'attack' of the epididimitys, after a meal (won't forget what it was: pasta and mozzarella cheese). Apart from that, it hurts, but doesn't prevented (neither prevents now) from nothing.

I was aware that my guts have been depleted of good bacteria, and I started to do some pro-biotics 2 weeks later.

When the epididimitys started, I had also sore throat (which I still have until today!!!). No other symptoms but a tendinitis in my left foot very likely due to the Levofloxacin, known to cause it.

The symptoms remain the same until February, where I started to experiment other symptoms: pain in my chest and headaches. In the beginning of last month I started to experiment (i) severe pain in my groins that sometimes prevents me from walking and (ii) gasto-intestinal disorders, like pain in my rectum, and diarrhea-like feces. Since August I loss a total of 13Kg.

I never had fever, and diarrehea started only in the last month.

Since August, when I had the sexual contact, I was tested for a variety of things, including HIV, Hepatitis A, B and C, bacterial DSTs such as gonorrhea, chamydia, mycoplasma. My bood, my throat's saliva and my sperm were tested. Everything was negative but Herpes I (HSV-I) and Herpes 6 (HHV-6). As far as every doc. says, I am HIV and Hepatitis free and there is no chance now of getting those from the sexual contact of August.

With regard to my diet, I've been doing good choices since I turned 18, eating lean, no fried stuff, no fast food, etc. I never ate vegetables in big amounts, though. Since I started the infection, I've been eating lots of vegetables and fruits, juicing them in some cases. I eat 95% certified organic. I use a varieaty of suplements, such as Oregano Oil, Echinacea, Astragalus, all vitamins (2g of C daily), L-Lysine for Herpes, etc. They have some symptomatic effects here and there, but are not solving the problem whatsoever, since it is becoming more and more danger as time goes by. I am doing a liquid oxygen therapy now, which my naturopath prescribed me. I sleep 7-8 hours every night and I do (as ever did) regular exercise such as bodybuiling and jogging.

My white blood count has been drooping every since I was infected. I started with 5 units (10^9 / L) and it is now at 3.5, bellow the adequate range. In the meantime, this drop was visible trial after trial.

I am open to give you more details about this if you. I feel that I am now in the limit for solving this problem, because it will hurt my body at a very dangerous rate. I was told by the last internal medicine doctor that my sore throat can rapidly evolve to something really serious (cancer for instance). I don't have much time now, please help.

Thanks a lot for reading.

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Hello friend...

Your story is concerning but there is always hope. forgive me for my lack of insight but do you mean the tests came back positive for Herpes? It seems that something serious is going on with your body...sound like an immuno suppression issue...

remember not all natural docs use the same methods...nor do all natural doctors.....

PLEASE stay in touch with us here - alot of people get better and never come back and share// SIMILARLY, sometimes extreme stories scare people and they never share..also try the cure zone forum - try as many forums as possible to cover as much territory as possible

there is HOPE - I know there is!
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A few days after the contact, I started to fill pain on my right testicle and I was diagnosed with epididimitys by an urologist. I had (and still have a brown strain cover half of my glans). I was given two antibiotics, Levofloxacin and Azitromicin. The latter did nothing for me, whereas with the first I was much more confortable. I did it for 14 days, but pain didn't go away. I return to the doc, which gave me 3 weeks more, because I made some progress and the presumable bacteria could be near from death.
You probably did a lot more research than me but check this out:

https://www.cdc.gov/std/treatment/2010/epididymitis.htm

It seems epididymitis can have various causes. If your dermatologist put you through cycles of various antibiotics, I am assuming that he discovered that you were suffering from a bacterial infection. . . which bacteria?

Many people carry various forms of the herpes virus but do not experience the symptoms you describe. The path is probably a search for improving your overall health and immune system as opposed to a search for a bacteria or a virus in order to kill it.
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I am sorry for the horrible english in the previous message... and I can't edit it!

@sow&reap

I will, I will probably start a new diet very soon, very limited in carbs, lots of vegetables and lean protein. I will also try new supplements. No chance of not discovering what is this in the next 6 months.

@newlife

My problem is that apparently, I am already doing everything I can to favor the immune system - nice 8 hours of sleep, very good diet (no sugary, no processed food, no alcohol), exercise 3/4 times in the week, etc.

That's why I still believe I should attack the infection rather than boost my health.
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Old 04-11-2013, 02:18 PM
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Some blood tests done in Apr 4 just arrived.

A laboratory's nurse inserted a stick into my uretra to look for both HPV and bacteria. This came up POSITIVE:

Staphylococcus haemolyticus. Does anyone knows anything about this beast? I've been using natural anti-bacterial treatments, if it is still not gone, I don't have too much solutions now. Apparently, this bacteria is known for being extremely resistant to antibiotics.

Can it justify all the symptoms that I have? Is this my main target now?

Well, I was tested for virus again. HIV negative, negative Mononucleosis, Immunity to CMV. HPV tests still under process. However, EBV (p18,p23,p54,p138) IgG came up positive. Can we draw any conclusion with IgG tested only? Can't this be positive due to a previous infection?

Please help me analyze this results...

Thanks
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Hi Ammm

I am NO expert on any of this but I do know that it is NOT untreatable only very difficult to treat....

I encourage you to try other forums - as many as you can because many of the other health forums have doctors - both medical and natural doctors that respond and there is surely a combo of meds that can help

just beacuse your current doc(s) do nto have the answer do not mean other docs do not..../

my docotr is amazing but he does not know everything ....

did you feel better on any antibiotcis? if so which one?

you may need an injection or Intravenous antibiotic - much more powerful...

you may need a very long course of antibiotics - much longer than the doc thinks.....

you may also start trying things like colloidal silver - I have heard good and bad BUT i have heard success stories about colloidal silver when nothing else worked

I think some of your symptoms of your anxiety as well - I hope you are not offended by me saying this BUT you seem hopeless and anxious - and anxiety really weakens the immune system

try e health forum cure zone - try as many as possible - someone out there has an answer

as we speak my right testicle is aching and I often get scared and want to give up hope but this will only make things much worse....we will get through this

I mean that - hang in there
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Hi and thanks for your answer. Lately, we seem to be the only users of this forum. ;-)

Please send me a PM with the other foruns we talk.

I felt better with Levofloxacin at the time, but the symptoms are much worst now...

Colloidal silver is definitely my next step. Can we give me some insight of where to get it? I have to finish the oxygen therapy first.

I sincerely want us two to solve our problems. I am not going to give up, I hope you don't as well.
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So, here's the thing I planned for the next weeks, starting in a week from today.

* Go on a 0-carb diet, composed mainly of raw organic vegetables/fruits low in sugar (don't have too much of an option here), juices of organic vegetables, lean meat and eggs for protein - I am an athlete, I need at least 200g a day of protein. As bacteria are mainly feed off sugar, I am cutting carbs, while maintaining protein. No more oatmeal, no more brown bread, no more quinoa and no more rice.
* Start a combo of antibacterial/antiviral elements, and boosting the immune system:

Immune system boosters

- Echinacea (Now Foods): cicles of 7 days + breaked by 7 days
- Astragalus
- 10.000 UI Vitamin D
- 400 UI Natural Source Vitamin E
- 4g of oral Vitamin C
- Tangy Tangerine Mineral Complex
- Probiotic (Dr. Ohhira's or Renew Life's Ultimate Flora?)
- Selenium
- Kelp (source of Iodine)

Anti{bacterial/viral}

- Olive Leaf Extract (Now Foods)
- Oregano Oil (Solgar): 2 caps a day for 60 days
- Colloidal Silver, 500 ppm
- Oxygen Therapy
- Tulsi + Neem
- Raw Garlic Juice after lunch and dinner

* 15 minutes of sauna daily
* Reduce sport's load to maintenance levels
* Pray to god

In red things I'll add/modify. Questions. I am open to suggestions, please help.

Thanks,
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Make sure to split up your C through the day.

I'd throw two tablespoons coconut oil in, twice daily.

How do you feel about licorice root? Supposed to aid in healing.

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Hundreds of potentially healing substances have been identified in licorice as well, including compounds called flavonoids and various plant estrogens (phytoestrogens). The herb's key therapeutic compound, glycyrrhizin (which is 50 times sweeter than sugar) exerts numerous beneficial effects on the body, making licorice a valuable herb for treating a host of ailments. It seems to prevent the breakdown of adrenal hormones such as cortisol (the body's primary stress-fighting adrenal hormone), making these hormones more available to the body.
https://www.herbwisdom.com/herb-licorice-root.html


I'd add selenium, iodine and Real salt too.
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Solstice Goat,

You're right in iodine and selenium. I am using Kelp now for iodine, and I have the selenium to use at the same time. List updated!

I plan to use Licorice, Mullein, DMG and Propolis. At a lesser degree I also plan to use Schizandra. These are not going to use in this phase, though.

I am afraid in using Mushroom's power for boosting the immune system because at this point I still have to consider a fungi infection...
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You're right in iodine and selenium. I am using Kelp now for iodine, and I have the selenium to use at the same time. List updated!



I am afraid in using Mushroom's power for boosting the immune system because at this point I still have to consider a fungi infection...

Using kelp for iodine is akin to using tinfoil as a knife or balsa wood for a club. Get a proper iodine supplement and dose as if you were worried about radiation, however, start slow and work up.

Being afraid of mushrooms because you have a fungus infection is like not eating chia seed because you don't want sprouts growing out of your ears. Only the Scarecrow in Wizard Of Oz should avoid mushrooms, and only when he's wet.
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I take the chance to ask you something, in the same line of though: might a probiotic be inadvisable for any sort of bacterial infection?

In other words: might a probiotic worsen a bacterial infection?

It is probably the same crazy though about the connection of mushrooms and fungi that I read elsewhere...
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Hey, if what you wrote for staph........ is the same as plane simple "staph" infection, then I had it and it was not very nice to say the least. Antibiotics did not work. The doctor wanted to cut my foot off that had a very bad sore. But I used MMs1 topically on my leg to cure it. It took about two weeks to do the job. An immediate biopsy afterwards showed no infection. My family doctor made no comment. The ordeal left me week as well water.
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I take the chance to ask you something, in the same line of though: might a probiotic be inadvisable for any sort of bacterial infection?

In other words: might a probiotic worsen a bacterial infection?

It is probably the same crazy though about the connection of mushrooms and fungi that I read elsewhere...

Probiotics are good. Good bacteria vs bad bacteria; the good bacteria wage war on the bad.
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Can you describe how you got your infection? And what was the body part infected?

I am infected with "Staphylococcus haemolyticus", but this appears to be a common bacteria. It is so common and I started to believe my symptoms have nothing to do with it, but with some other thing...
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