Low in Vit D.

Marcus

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Ok, went to the doc last week and she checked my vit d levels. Borderline low. I've been taking 1,000 iu per cap, 2 to 3 caps a day of NOW vitamin d and had started about 3 or 4 weeks ago.

Do you think it is the product? Is there a better product out there?
My doc says fish oil source for vitamin d is best. I already take 5 caps of fish oil a day. She says somebody makes a fish oil vit product. Anybody know of one?

Thanks
 

Mari

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Arrowwind,

It may take a while to bring your vit. D levels up. My levels were low. For a year I took about 5,000 units a day--a mixture of multi & bone supplement from Life Extension, a tbsp a day of cod iver oil and a prescription from my Dr. After a year my levels still were not where they should be. I now have a Rx for 50,000 units--one a week--for 20 weeks. That should do the job.

Mari
 

Harry Hirsute

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Arrowwind said:
Is there a better product out there?
My doc says fish oil source for vitamin d is best. I already take 5 caps of fish oil a day. She says somebody makes a fish oil vit product. Anybody know of one?
Arrowwind,

Personally, I use the LEF vitamin D3 (1,000 IUs per cap). Some experts seem to prefer this form over other forms - including cod liver oil. But, I think this will depend on who you ask.

Most fish oil contains little or no vitamin D. Only fish liver oils will provide significant quantities (cod liver oil being the most common).

As far as a fish oil vitamin, perhaps it's something like this?

http://www.carlsonlabs.com/product_detail.phtml?prodid=725cffe9

HH
 

Iggy Dalrymple

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I've never had my Vit D level checked but I take 2,000 IU/day (Spring Valley from Walmart), I eat cold ocean fish every day, and when I feel I'm coming down with a cold or flu, I take 200,000 IU(50,000 IU capsules) for a day or two.
 

EarlyBird

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Vit D3

Arrow,
My D levels are great. I buy my Vit D3 from Self help Resource
Center - www.shrc.com in a small bottle w/a separate
dropper. I forget the exact cost but I don't recall it being
expensive. They recommend 1 drop a day, but I take
2 drops a day. It has 400iu in each drop.
I bought this product because I had trouble find Vit D3 i
nstead of just straight D.
 

Marcus

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I didn't know you could purchase a 50000 IU cap. I will think about this and maybe do a protocol like Mari has been doing. In general I guess life extension products may be better. My doc seemed to think there was some kind of supplement out there made from fish oil that concentrated the vit. d.

Earlybird - your link for self help doesn't open for me.

Thanks guys.
 

Janner

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There is some excellent information on Vit D on this site -
http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/

You can also get a monthly newsletter!!

Give or take a bit - if we live in the Northern (or way south) hemisphere - we are deficient in Vit D - but you have to watch what is in the supplement

Here is an extract from the site!!

Vitamin D - A prohormone that behaves similar to a steroid in that it binds to a receptor and has a regulatory effect on gene expression. Vitamin D plays an important role in: the maintenance of several organ systems, bone formation and mineralization, and the control of calcium and phosphorus metabolism. Vitamin D also performs immunosuppressive and anti‑tumor functions. The term vitamin D also refers to vitamin D metabolites and synthetically‑derived vitamin D analogues.

The different forms of vitamin D:

Vitamin D1: - Molecular compound of ergocalciferol and lumisterol (1:1 ratio).
Vitamin D2: - Also called ergocalciferol or calciferol.
Vitamin D3: - Also called cholecalciferol. Vitamin D3 is real vitamin D. All other compounds are either metabolic products or chemical modifications.
Vitamin D4: - Also called dihydrotachysterol.
Vitamin D5: - Also called sitocalciferol.
 

Mari

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I have some 50,000 unit D3 on hand to try if I come down with a cold or the flu. I got them from Life Span Nutrition--100 capsules for $30 +SH.

http://www.lifespannutrition.com/

Iggy, have you found this to be effective?

I just checked my Rx vit D. It is ergocalciferol (D2).

Mari
 

Marcus

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My doc recommended that I take 3,000 iu a day. Well, Im going to take 5,000 since I had already been taking 2-3,000 daily and get rechecked in about 3 months. I ordered those 5,000 iu and 50,000 IU pills from Life Span. Thanks for the link Mari and Iggy.

So hypothetically, if some deadly flu was coming our way in the dead of winter how many and how often would one take the 50,000 IU?
 

Mari

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As I recall, Dr. Cannell of the Vitamin D Council recommended using 1,000 units of vit. D per pound of body weight each day for three days.

A 150 pound person would take 150,000 units (three capsules) a day for three days.

In the article, Dr. Cannell stated that there had been no research using these amounts but he made the recommendation based on his experience.

Mari
 

Marcus

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Ok, thanks Mari. Now I'm getting picky. Should I take those caps all at once or one cap 3 times a day? :)
 

Iggy Dalrymple

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Mari said:
Iggy, have you found this to be effective?

I just checked my Rx vit D. It is ergocalciferol (D2).

Mari
Yes, I've used the mega dosing twice and
both times it stopped the cold/flu infection.
I used 200,000 iu/day for 2 or 3 days.
My Walmart/SpringValley is cholecalciferol, D3.

Stoss therapy

High-dose vitamin D therapy (stoss therapy) is an effective method for treating established or recalcitrant vitamin D deficiency.31,35 It involves oral or intramuscular administration of the total treatment dose of vitamin D (cholecalciferol or ergocalciferol), 300 000 IU (7500 μg) to 500 000 IU (12 500 μg), as a single dose, or two to four divided doses.36 The interval between doses can vary from days to several weeks depending on the protocol followed. There are many stoss therapy regimens, and further study is required to finalise the most effective regimen and ensure safety. After stoss therapy, the biochemical follow-up recommended is similar to that for daily dosing.

In Australia, concentrated vitamin D is not commercially available, limiting stoss therapy. In New Zealand, Calciferol Strong (50 000 IU cholecalciferol; PSM Healthcare, Auckland, NZ) — an oral preparation — is available.10 High-dose vitamin D for intramuscular injection effectively treats vitamin D deficiency secondary to malabsorption,35 but is not available in Australia or New Zealand. To facilitate the use of stoss therapy, a wider variety of vitamin D preparations are required in Australia and New Zealand. http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/185_05_040906/mun10153_fm.html
 

EarlyBird

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ssrc.com

Arrow - Try typing it in separately. I don't think you can
get to the link from the Forum. The bottles are so tiny
and the print so small that it's hard to make out. Let me
know if you can't get to it. I'll try to see if there's a phone
number available too.
 

Marcus

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Tried to type it in and server can't find site, EarlyBird. Oh well.
 

nightowl

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Here is an article from Robert Jay Rowen, M.D. about Vitamin D3. He also recommends the Bio-Tech brand that is available at the link Mari provided.
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Cut your risk of breast and colon cancer by up to 67%

Most studies suggest that if someone in your family had colon or breast cancer, it significantly increases your risk for contracting one of these diseases. But two new studies suggest you can cut your risk of breast cancer in half. And you can cut your risk of colon cancer by as much as 67%.

The new studies indicate that all you have to do to reduce your risk is take one simple supplement.

A research team pooled more than 1,700 records from two separate studies on vitamin D. They divided them into five groups according to their vitamin D levels. Those with higher levels of vitamin D in their blood (approximately 52 ng/Ml) had the lowest risk. They were a whopping 50% less likely to get breast cancer than those measuring less than 13 ng/ml.

To get to the higher level, you would have to take 4,000 IU per day of vitamin D, says Dr. Cedric Garland of UCSD, who headed the study. The researchers also recommend you get an additional 10-15 minutes of sun exposure each day. That could generate an additional 300 IU of vitamin D right in your skin.

In the other study, researchers found a similar result with colon cancer. They found that raising vitamin D level to 34 ng/mL reduces your risk colon cancer by half. Lead author Edward Gorham, MPH, PhD, a research epidemiologist with the Naval Health Research Center in San Diego said higher levels are even better. "We project a two-thirds reduction in incidence with serum levels of 46 ng/mL." Please read that again. You can reduce your risk of colon cancer by 67%. And all you have to do is increase your vitamin D level to 46 ng/mL.

I've said for years that you need to take 4,000 to 5,000 units of vitamin D every day. It takes at least that much to keep your blood levels in the upper range. These studies further confirm my recommendation. Not only can this cut your risk of breast and colon cancer, but it can also cut your risk of MS (which I'll tell you more about in the May issue of Second Opinion).

Taking vitamin D may be the most valuable step you can take to prevent cancer. I'm measuring vitamin D on all my patients. And I'm doing it in the summer too. We're just not getting enough vitamin D these days. My wife and I even had low levels and we eat a very healthy diet.

I think everyone needs to take vitamin D. In the winter, Terri and I take 10,000 IU daily. We cut our dose to 5,000 IU in the summer. If you decide to take vitamin D, stick with vitamin D3. It's a natural form - unlike D2, which isn't well absorbed. My favorite brand is made by BioTech. You can order it directly from the company by calling 800-345-1199.

Yours for better health and medical freedom,
Robert Jay Rowen, MD

Ref: J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol. Published online January 30, 2007; Am J Prev Med. 2007;32:210-216.
 


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