hepatitis B shot for an infant

jbo

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We are pretty much against the hepatitis B shot for our infant who we are expecting in a few weeks. My question is that we are probably going to refuse it at the hospital, but in my city it appears that day care and schools will require it. I have more of an issue giving the shot when his immune system is low, but not sure if he has to get his first shot, when he should get them?

The daycare we're looking at, he'll be around 6 months of age by then and they require all vaccinations. I'm just not sure how I should spread them out or which ones I can avoid by law and have my child attend daycare and public schools?

Here's the latest recommend schedule for vaccinations
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/downloads/child/0-6yrs-schedule-pr.pdf
 

Arrowwind09

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When you go into the hospital tell them immediatedly that the baby is not to be vaccinated. Insist that they write it on the chart. Repeat the request after the baby is born. Absolutley do not to this vaccination. It is linked to diabetes and studies were done by an independed research lab indicating that it can cause diabetes but the info has since been repressed. I read the full research a number of years ago by ....?... Labs... it has since been taken off the net... cant remember the name of the labs right this second.

The best way to protect your baby while in the hospital is to insist that the baby room in with the mother... it must never go to the nursery... It it needs to go for an exam dad goes with it or mom if she can.

This site may be helpful. Its for exemptions state by state
http://www.unhinderedliving.com/statevaccexemp.html
 

mommysunshine

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Did you find out what your state allows for vaccination waivers? Nearly all states have waivers which will allow your child to attend school without vaccinations (not sure about daycare). There's got to be a wonderful person who can watch your baby that is independent of the structured daycare. Daycares are germ pits - so many kids get sick over and over again. It was a constant complaint from friends who had their children in daycare.
 

jbo

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When you go into the hospital tell them immediatedly that the baby is not to be vaccinated. Insist that they write it on the chart. Repeat the request after the baby is born. Absolutley do not to this vaccination. It is linked to diabetes and studies were done by an independed research lab indicating that it can cause diabetes but the info has since been repressed. I read the full research a number of years ago by ....?... Labs... it has since been taken off the net... cant remember the name of the labs right this second.

The best way to protect your baby while in the hospital is to insist that the baby room in with the mother... it must never go to the nursery... It it needs to go for an exam dad goes with it or mom if she can.

This site may be helpful. Its for exemptions state by state
http://www.unhinderedliving.com/statevaccexemp.html
Thanks for the info. We have it in our birth plan and the top 3 wishes it's the on the top, so they can't miss it. We have in our plan that the infant will be with my wife and if the baby is to be removed I'll be with my baby the whole time.

I live in Florida and I want to get some of the vaccinations to be honest, just some of them just don't make sense to me. The Hepatitis B is one that doesn't make any sense at all to me.

I personally think the risk of the shots and a reaction are probably pretty low, but what it's protecting against is even lower. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't see how my child could get it unless it was from myself or my wife who have been tested. So protect an infant from a sexually transmitted disease, just doesn't make sense to me. I've read articles that argue that child scratch, bite....etc and they can get it that way, but then the other child would have to have it, so I'm not buying that argument. If it protected for life that would be something else, but it doesn't even do that. I just can't come up with a single reason why my child would need it.
 

jbo

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Did you find out what your state allows for vaccination waivers? Nearly all states have waivers which will allow your child to attend school without vaccinations (not sure about daycare). There's got to be a wonderful person who can watch your baby that is independent of the structured daycare. Daycares are germ pits - so many kids get sick over and over again. It was a constant complaint from friends who had their children in daycare.
We've gone back and forth about my wife staying home or going to daycare. Seems a lot of other countries call it early education and the government helps a lot with the cost, while in the USA it has more of a negative perspective. There's study after study out there that compare the 6 factors when the child ages: Behavior, Vocabulary, Social Skills, Cognitive Development, Health and Intelligence. It appears over and over that a quality daycare that 4 out of the 6 are better than staying at home. The two that are worse as you mention is their health and behavior. I've seen mixed things about the behavior studies and some people I know argue that they have seen kids come to school by kindergarden and they don't know how to act in a classroom environment. Of course the studies compared stay at home children, quality daycare and poor quality daycare. The poor quality daycare the child is worse off in almost every category.

Even in my stat they are starting to see the benefit of early education that they have a program called VPK (voluntary pre-kindergarden) that they will help with the cost. The argument is at what age is the best for a child to start, especially for health.

We saw this chart, which is pretty interesting



Most of my coworkers and friends who take their children to daycare started right away when they were a few weeks old. My wife is going to stay home with our son for 6 months for a few reasons. From the chart above it seems at 6 months their own immune system improves and my wife company won't hold her job for more than 6 months. So 6 months works the best for us.

The chart above came from reasons to breast feed and how the child gets their immune fighting antibodies from breast milk and why you should breastfeed if possible at least a year. World health organization though recommends 2 years.

I'm wondering if the reason the daycares are such a bad place for health is that many people drop their children off a few weeks after birth and if people held their kids longer, say a year that it would be less of a place they are always getting sick? All children with a poor immune system is asking for trouble.

But according to webmd children have separation anxiety the most from 8 months to 14 months. So it appears either 6 months or 2 years might be the best time to start your child at a daycare.
 

Arrowwind09

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Your chart shows why it is best to breast feed at least up to a year and that is hard to maintain when in day care.

I think that quality day care can be good for some kids but not all. You have to take into account the childs personality and needs. For my kids it was great for 3 days a week after the age of one. they really liked the social interaction. But I always insisted on 4 days at home to be a family and seek out outdoor and other activity. For me, my mom said that day care was not a good plan as I would cry all the time, so each kid is different and forcing a kid to do what is not in their nature is always a problem. .. Quality day care provided for me being able to take my kids on a journey to Mexico for 3 months and skip kindergarden for they had learned all that stuff earlier.
 

jbo

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I honestly don't think daycare makes a difference with breastfeeding. At my age a lot of my coworkers are having kids and a dozen or so of my co-workers have their kids at daycare and every single one breast feed at least a year. One of my co-workers breast feed for over two years and the child was in daycare. I've never heard of daycare and breastfeeding being an issue everybody I know who can afford a breast pump gets one.
maybe older generations have these dual breast pumps everybody has these days.

It's amazing how something change in a generation. I was breastfed as a child and my mother told me that she got into arguments with her motherinlaw who bought into the hype that formula was better for the baby. now nobody would argue that as even formula bottles state it's not as healthy and only recommended if you have a problem.
 


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