Florinization of water linked to autism/cognitive disorders

PegBliss

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Florinization programs instituted starting in the mid 1900s have been conclusively linked to the increase in autism and other cognitive disorders in children in recent decades. Does anyone have any more information about this? What are the risks to my baby? My husband and I have both lived in areas where the water was fluorinated by the government for years and grew up drinking fluoride water and using the dental rinses administered by our health care professionals. Does anyone know of any studies that have been done to show the incidence of problems? I am in my second trimester. Is there any supplements (prefer holistic/natural) I can take to lessen the risk? Thank you, Peg
 

kind2creatures

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Hi Peg, welcome to the forum and a late Happy Mother's Day to you! :) I don't have any advice about supplements, just to start using filtered water if you're not doing that already. It's hard to avoid fluoride, as it's also in a lot of the foods we eat, beware of fluoride in infant juices/waters, there a thread in Dentistry about it. Here's a site with a lot of info on fluoride. http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/brain/
 

Ted_Hutchinson

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Florinization programs instituted starting in the mid 1900s have been conclusively linked to the increase in autism and other cognitive disorders in children in recent decades
I'm not sure that this has been concluclusively proved though I do accept that fluoride is a neurotoxin and vulnerable people could be adversely affected by excess. Most of our fluoride comes from drinking tea and I'm quite sure that the health benefits of tea drinking overwhelm the adverse effects. I doubt fluoridation of water is helpful there are much better ways we could protect our childrens teeth and I'm glad most of the water in the UK is not fluoridated.

Does anyone have any more information about this?
Theoretical aspects of autism: Causes—A review
Helen V. Ratajczak
I think this is the most up to date survey of possible causes of Autism.


Is there any supplements (prefer holistic/natural) I can take to lessen the risk? Thank you, Peg
I think raising your natural anti inflammatory status is probably the best intervention you can make. Vitamin D3, 5000iu/daily, magnesium chelate (albion mineral patent) 400mg, Omega 3 above 1g of EPA + DHA daily. It's worth also making sure you get to bed early, get into the bright light during the day and have a dark bedroom ,Melatonin is one of the best antioxidants and ensuring your maximise natural secretion is essential. If you live in an area of selenium deficiency (ie UK) then taking a selenium is a good idea.

I think keeping a good gut flora is probably a good idea so making full fat yoghurt at home is worth the trouble and cheaper/better than bought. Astaxanthin / Carnosine are other antioxidants worth considering
Healthy Fellow Krill oil has good information

You may also want to consider Chlorella supplementation as a good way of improving gut flora and detox agent.
 

jfh

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Recently, in the USA national news, there are results of a study of autism with the children of South Korea. Surprisingly high. I do wonder if there is correlation of that and ingestion of fluoride.

Objectives: To estimate the daily fluoride intake of infants fed infant formulas commercially available in Korea. Methods: The fluoride contents of twenty eight infant formulas were measured by a modified micro-diffusion method. The amount of daily fluoride intake was estimated under the assumption of feeding average daily amount of infant formulas recommended by the manufacturers reconstituted with water of varying fluoride concentrations (i.e., 0, 0.5, 0.8 and 1 ppmF). The estimated amounts were compared with the empirical upper limit of fluoride intake to prevent enamel fluorosis, 0.07 µ·/µ¸/day. Results: The fluoride content of the infant formulas ranged from 0.270 to 14.283 µg/g. When infant formulas were assumed to be reconstituted with fluoride free water, the amount of fluoride intake from two infant formulas was over the empirical upper limit (0.132-0.222 µ·/µ¸/day ). Reconstituted with 0.5 ppmF water, the amount of fluoride intake from nine infant formulas was over the empirical upper limit (0.071-0.269 µ·/µ¸/day). Reconstituted with 0.8 and 1ppmF water, the amount of daily fluoride intake from all but four infant formulas was over the empirical upper limit (0.094-0.317 µ·/µ¸/day). Conclusions: Infants fed from some infant formulas may ingest more fluoride than the empirical upper limit. Thus, there is need of regulation for proper fluoride content in infant formulas. There is also need for infant feeding guideline regarding fluoride intake for parents and health care providers in Korea.
http://apha.confex.com/apha/136am/webprogram/Paper176561.html
 

Ted_Hutchinson

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Should I use fluoridated water to make baby formula?
I must admit I didn't think that US fluoridation was quite as bad as this.

I think you should be able to find out the extent of fluoridation in your own water supply and if it comes to using bottled water or buying a filter then I'm afraid that's it.
It's a shame but I think it's better you avoid fluoride if possible and breast feed for as long as possible.
I've been using an XYLITOL toothpaste as an alternative to UK toothpastes that all seem to contain fluoride. Fortunately only 10% of UK water is fluoridated but we are great tea drinkers so generally get more from the tea than the water.
 

PegBliss

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Thank you for your kind and informed responses. It's good to know that people are becoming aware of this problem which is caused by the (well-intended) irresponsible efforts of our governments starting in the 60s and 70s. Living in the States as my husband and I do, even in our alternative community of caring individuals, there are many environmental stressors that are out of our control and short of living in a bubble (Which has been discussed!) there is not much we can do about it.

In our community we filter all our water even though it comes from a mountain stream - there is a power plant about 20 miles up river and who knows what contaminants are being put out into the water. We grow most of our own food and raise our own livestock (just cows for milk, and chickens for eggs, and some goats to keep them company! They are free range and well cared for!) so we know what we're eating and where it comes from. But the air is everywhere! Not much you can do about that! We are heavy tea drinkers. I had never heard that tea has more fluorine in it than regular water. I love tea and thought it was safer than drinking water that had not been boiled, even if it is filtered and from a natural source. That's something to think about.

Do you think that its possible that the increase in fluorinization in the states is part of a more sinister government program? I mean after a couple decades the information was out there that this was a bad idea and the problems it caused so why keep doing it if your goal is to protect your population? Is it possible that the government is maybe trying to "dumb down" the population and keep us under control. It's well known that the military-industrial complex has been using performance-enhancers and selective breeding to create better stronger soldiers. Will there be a day when 'ordinary people' are no longer able to compete and are put into subjugation? It's scary stuff. What do you think?
 

PegBliss

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Thank you for your link, Ted! You are indeed an enlightener! I have been thinking about this all day as I go about my house chores. And what if the fluoride is serving a dual purpose here. It could be that it is both reducing our IQ and maybe also as a catalyst or carrier? Like, it could activate something lying dormant inside us or maybe carry nanomachines or some sort of tracking tracer. Like they could know where you've been or if you've attended subversive meetings based on your fluoride levels - tracing it back to public water supply sources or deep-cover healthcare professionals.

It truly boggles the mind. This is a scary scary world and I can't imagine what the future holds in store for us or our children.
 

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jfh

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I think you will really enjoy this web page I'm presenting. Here are a few excerpts. From all my research, I've found that iodine is a great, and probably only, chelator of fluoride.

There are actually four halogens: iodine, bromine, fluorine and chlorine. All these halogens use the same receptors in the body. Therefore if a person’s diet is deficient in iodine the iodine receptors in the thyroid and stomach, for example, may fill up with bromine which is common in grains, bleached flour, sodas, nuts and oils as well as several plant foods. Iodine is depleted by bromine, which is used as a spray on fruits and vegetables, in baked goods, as a fumigant, and in Prozac, Paxil and many other pharmaceutical drugs. Chlorine, fluorine, and fluoride are chemically related to iodine, and compete with it, blocking iodine receptors in the thyroid gland.

Iodine intake immediately increases the excretion of bromide, fluoride, and some heavy metals including mercury and lead. Bromide and fluoride are not removed by any other chelator or detoxifying technique.

Dr. Kenezy Gyula Korhaz states that iodine chelates heavy metals such as mercury, lead, cadmium and aluminum and halogens such as fluoride and bromide, thus decreasing their iodine inhibiting effects especially of the halogens. Iodine has the highest atomic weight of all the common halogens. [Which makes it the best chelator]

Dr. David Brownstein says that fluoride inhibits the ability of the thyroid gland to concentrate iodine and research has shown that fluoride is much more toxic to the body when there is iodine deficiency present. When iodine is supplemented the excretion rate of the toxic halides bromide, fluoride and perchlorate is greatly enhanced. Brownstein says that after only one dose of iodine the excretion of fluoride increased by 78% and this is very important for those who are drinking fluoridated water or are taking medicines with fluoride in them; bromide excretion rates increased by 50%. Our environment is loaded with the toxic halides bromine and fluorine and up to now we have had no way to detoxify the body of these thyroid poisons.

Dr. Abraham noted that in some patients the excretion of lead, cadmium and mercury increased several fold after only one day of iodine supplementation and that increased aluminum excretion was noted about a month after beginning supplementation. Orthoiodosupplementation [50MG or more daily] induces a detoxification reaction in some patients with high bromide levels.

Dr. Brownstein indicates that iodine is also a chelator of mercury and had tested quite carefully the amounts removed.

http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Liodine2.htm
 

Ted_Hutchinson

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Instructions for brewing Green Tea. the comments are also interesting.

I think the research may have overstated the amount of fluoride in green tea.
Most people DON'T use boiling water but water that is just shy of boiling.
Also you should rinse the leaves first and discard that water.
The the brew time needs only to be 2~3 minutes so less time for fluoride to escape
Then people generally reuse those leaves maybe up t 5 times through the day. So it's not like you are getting all the fluoride in your first cup, it's going to be getting less throughout the day.
I think the same applies to the caffeine content. If you make it traditionally with water off the boil, short brew time, reuse leaves the total through the day of both caffeine and fluoride is not going to be as great as suggested.
 

u&iraok

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In our community we filter all our water even though it comes from a mountain stream - there is a power plant about 20 miles up river and who knows what contaminants are being put out into the water.
That's good that you filter ALL your water because many people won't drink tap water but then they shower in it and a lot of toxins are absorbed through the skin that way.

Do you think that its possible that the increase in fluorinization in the states is part of a more sinister government program?
I don't know about 'sinister' but I have read that water flouridation was started as a cheap easy way to get rid of industrial waste fluoride. It's not the kind of flouride found in the ground that we get in minute and safe amounts but because fluoride is a mineral we need they could call it a beneficial program for the health of our precious childrens' teeth!
 

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