eczema cure

dawna

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bathe in a bath tub of water with 1/2 cup of regular old bleach. clorox will do it, it kills the germ that causes it.

I wonder if psoraisis would be cured the same way...?
 

pinballdoctor

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Neither are caused by germs, (bacteria) however, the root cause is fungus. Coconut oil is antifungal, as is olive leaf extract, and colloidal silver will also kill fungus.

I would suggest taking colloidal silver internally (one oz twice per day) as well as using some topically on the psoraisis or other skin issue.

Do some research on fungus.

P.S. Any chemical that you put on your skin will penetrate through the pores and go directly into the blood stream. Think about that the next time you have a bleach bath.

Its bad enough there is chlorine added to the water, and when hot water mixes with chlorine, you inhale the mist. This is very toxic.
 

dawna

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colloidal silver is dangerous, talk to a pathologist, if you take it your body won't pass it, it coagulates in your brain, when you die it will still be in your brain. Chlorine won't hurt you.
 

Arrowwind09

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Sorry! Chlorine is highly toxic and its gas will kill you dam quick!

Never mix ammonia and chlorox as the chlorine gas that it puts off has killed many
an unsuspecting housewife.

I do think you are talking about Chlorox which is not chlorine, it is sodium hypochlorite... a huge difference.
http://toxtown.nlm.nih.gov/text_version/chemicals.php?id=8

Some people cannot tolerate chlorinated pools. It makes them sick. The free chlorine molecule can bind to many receptor sites in the body and slowly but surely make you sick if you keep up exposure. Just how much free chlorine gets into the body when you soak in a pool or a bath with chlorox in it I cannot say. I personally would stay away from it. I work hard to get chlorine out of my tap water.

A soak in Hydrogen Peroxide would be much more beneficial and not dangerous at all.
 

AndreTTOW

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This post is great :D

Chlorine is toxic, that's for sure and we shouldn't keep that stuff around the house...too many risks.

Also, eczema can't really be cured.

It is generally accepted that eczema is auto-immune. Your body is fighting itself essentially. While all sorts of topical treatments will perhaps give the impression of "curing" the symptoms...it is unlikely to have long term effects, unless you continue treatment.

Your best bet to "cure" eczema is to boost your immune system. You can do this any number of ways. But increasing your vitamin and mineral intake is a must, either by juicing fresh veggies and fruits or taking oligofructose supplements and adding to that lots of pro AND pre biotics. You certainly will need Omega 3 (dump the 6 and 9) supplements (a good fish oil or fresh ground flax seed...do it yourself, costs nothing to do) and make sure you load up on antioxidants (green tea, fresh field berries etc)

Works wonders for me anyways. :shock:

Plus I use a tea tree oil enriched moisturizing cream to treat the symptoms when they pop up once ina while (usually seasonal changes are a bother)
 

Sonia

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bathe in a bath tub of water with 1/2 cup of regular old bleach. clorox will do it, it kills the germ that causes it.

I wonder if psoraisis would be cured the same way...?
Hi Dawna,

I’m not sure where you are getting this info as it really is not safe to bind by.

For more direct psoriasis information, go to the source - first hand knowledge would be the best advice anyone can offer - I would be glad to share a direct link if you are interested

Sonia
 

nightowl

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I'm not fond of bleach, but I'm not too fond of the persistant thick cracking and inflamed skin areas on the soles of my feet and on my hands either,...which biopsies said is psoriasis. My brother-in-law said he had the same thing on his feet and cured it using a teaspoon of bleach (Chlorox I believe) in a foot bath with warm water, soaking his feet once or twice a day for a few weeks I believe. My older sister said she soaked her feet in a gallon of pure apple cider vinegar and totally got rid of fungus on her feet and toe nails. I have a pan of it with a loose fitting lid under my bed...and my grandson could smell it clear out in the back yard a ways from my window...it's powerful stuff and burned a little the first time, but did stop the inflammation from getting any worse. She said she reused hers for about a week and then threw it out. Using a gallon at a time could get costly if you dumped it any sooner.
 

legalbeagle09

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Taking a bath in bleach seems awful extreme. I suggest an epsom salt bath and a diet that includes plenty of vegetables that are high in vitamin E and Aloe Vera. My nephew has had terrible eczema for 2-3 years now and as a family we have searched high and low for a solution. My sister uses Pepsom Sports which is a new spearmint scented Epsom salt that we found in Walgreens. My nephew loves it because it is green (he is 6). She soaks him everyday before for 20-30 minutes and swears that it not only helps with the itching but also cleared up his eczema within the first week of use. So I don't know anything about the Chlorox bath but to me epsom salt seems to be a much safer alternative expecially for younger people afflicated with eczema who you might not want drinking water with bleach in it. If anyone tries it please let me know because I am interested to see if it works for other people or if my sister is crazy. Good luck to all !!
 

nightowl

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I agree that bleach isn't very healthy, but I was desperate enough to try it a couple of times with just a tiny bit in the water. Not a bath, but just to soak my feet in a pan of warm water. It didn't help any more than anything else. I have used Epsom Salts and also my favorite is the combination of Epsom Salts and Aveno colloidal oatmeal bath treatment for dry skin. The Aveno is great for softening and removing the build-up of excess skin from psoriasis. The cider vinegar soak was pretty good but I didn't know I was supposed to dilute it with an equal amount of water so it was cold and kinda harsh on the skin. My feet are slightly better but my hands have gotten worse the past two days. I took a break from using prescription clobetisol ointment because it is bad for you, but also my skin peeled and had raw patches, probably because the ointment makes the skin thin.

I previously used high dose vitamin D3, then lowered it to 10,000 IU for a couple of weeks before having a blood test. My test result was 110 and above the high normal range of 100. Yesterday my naturopathic doctor told me I need to lower it to 5,000 IU, partly because my phosphorus was also high and he thinks it's because the D3 is leaching it out of my bones. Those members on high dose D3 beware...you need to check more than just vitamin D3 if you're going to go above the normal range. I thought the higher dose was helping my psoriasis but it appearently was doing other damage.
 

D Bergy

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I think a blanket condemnation of bleach is a little extreme. Bleach is useful for sanitizing and is one of the only products you can use for certain applications.

I had to shock my well as there was iron related bacteria in my well causing a sulfur smell. I do not know of any other way of sanitizing a well other than using bleach. It is better than consuming unknown bacteria that can make you ill. Of course you have to run the water out to get rid of most of the bleach, but I am quite sure there is some left. It worked, and our water does not stink any more.

Dan
 

kind2creatures

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Here's an abbreviated forwarded message that may be of benefit:

Western Perspective

Any skin inflammation may be considered dermatitis. Substances that
irritate the skin, allergic reactions to drugs, detergents, and other
chemicals are all problems. Dermatitis can affect almost any area of
the body. Redness, scaling, and thickening of the skin may occur.
Pinpointing the cause of the problem is the first step toward
alleviating the symptoms.

Dermatitis is a broad term covering many different disorders that all
result in a red, itchy rash. The term eczema is sometimes used for
dermatitis. Some types of dermatitis affect only specific parts of
the body, whereas others can occur anywhere. Some types of dermatitis
have a known cause; others do not. However, dermatitis is always the
skin's way of reacting to severe dryness, scratching, a substance
that is causing irritation, or an allergen. Typically, that substance
comes in direct contact with the skin, but sometimes the substance is
swallowed. In all cases, continuous scratching and rubbing may
eventually lead to thickening and hardening of the skin.
Eczema is a type of dermatitis that is allergy related. It appears as
dry, cracking, crusting and red patches on the skin. Often there are
swelling, weeping blisters. The skin can become inflamed and itchy.
Many factors can contribute to eczema. Stress is a major factor.
Exposure to cleaning compounds, perfumes, detergents, household
chemicals, soaps, food allergies, as well as, nutrient deficiencies.
Atopic dermatitis is one of the most common skin diseases, affecting
15 million people in the United States. Almost 66% of people with the
disorder develop it before age 1, and 90% by age 5. In half of these
people, the disorder will be gone by the teenage years; in others, it
is lifelong.

Doctors do not know what causes atopic dermatitis, but people with it
usually have many allergic disorders, particularly asthma, hay fever,
and food allergies. The relationship between the dermatitis and these
disorders is not clear; atopic dermatitis is not an allergy to a
particular substance. Atopic dermatitis is not contagious.

Many conditions can make atopic dermatitis worse, including emotional
stress, changes in temperature or humidity, bacterial skin
infections, and contact with irritating clothing.

In some infants, food allergies may provoke atopic dermatitis.

Asthma at an early age is often seen. With the development of eczema
and asthma, western medicine sees this as an allergic IgE response.
This is a genetically determined disorder that occurs in association
with asthma and hay fever. Symptoms usually include erythematous,
scaling and lichenified areas, which when active show crusting but no
vesicles. If a blood sample is taken, it will most likely show an
increase in IgE levels and a high number of eosinophils.


Supplements for Eczema

*A study published in the British Medical Journal Lancet showed a
significant improvement in eczema when patients took high doses of
Evening Primrose Oil (EPO) in capsule form. There have been some
reports that EPO can help in cases of atopic dermatitis. It takes a
rather large number of these expensive capsules to produce results
and it can take at least six months to see any results.

*Flaxseed oil taken internally or applied externally often eases
symptoms of eczema.

*Aloe vera gel and Calendula lotion or cream can sooth irritated
skin.

*Take 500 milligrams of Black Currant Oil twice a day. Give children
under 12 half that dose. This takes six to eight weeks to produce the
desired effect.

*Eat at regular times with relevant portions of food.




Since dry air tends to aggravate the itching of eczema or dermatitis,
keeping indoor air moist should be a primary concern of sufferers and
their families.

If you can counter dry air with a good humidifier, then forced-air
heat is not as much of a problem. Humidifiers are like air
conditioners—you really need a big unit to do anything. If you sleep
next to it, however, that's okay. Put it next to your bed.


Andrew Pacholyk, MS, L.Ac
 

Beach Man

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bathe in a bath tub of water with 1/2 cup of regular old bleach. clorox will do it, it kills the germ that causes it.

I wonder if psoraisis would be cured the same way...?
Good information, dawna, for those who are suffering from eczema and for the parents of children with the condition, according to a study which received widespread coverage from the news media and which produced what have been called "remarkable" results, and in stark contrast to those negative comments in response to your Post. Although not a cure, the use of the bleach water bath to treat eczema and the infection Staphylococcus Aureus, which often accompanies it, has been proven clinically to provide amazing and effective relief for both conditions, and has been used by many physicians for years to successfully treat both children and adult patients. And you are correct; regular CLOROX, which is 6% Sodium Hypochlorite, will do it. Among those physicians endorsing its use, two of the more prominent ones are Dr. Amy Paller, M.D., Pediatric Dermatologist and Chair of the Department of Dermatology at Northwestern University's Feinberg School of Medicine in Chicago, and Dr. Nanette Silverberg, M.D., Director of Pediatric and Adolescent Dermatology at Beth Isreal Medical Center in New York.

Dr. Paller, along with Dr. Jennifer Huang, M.D. and colleagues, conducted a study using one half cup of bleach added to a full tub (40 gallons) of water to treat eczema and Staphylococcus Aureus in children, ages 6 months to 17 years. Soak time was 5 to 10 minutes for each bath. The baths were given twice a week and the positive results were so dramatic over the course of what was designed to be a three month study that the study was stopped early so that all of the children involved (including those recieving treatment with the placebo instead of the bleach) could benefit from the treatment using the bleach. According to Dr. Paller no adverse effects were observed, and she now recommends bleach water baths to all of her patients with moderate to severe eczema. Dr. Silverberg, who learned while she was in training about the treatment from Dr. Paller, states that she has been using it successfully with her patients for years and also with no adverse effects.

Although in the study the baths were given just twice a week, Dr. Paller states that the treatment can be used safely up to seven days a week, depending on the severity of the condition, and that such increased frequency may be required during flares of the condition. One of the benefits of the treatment she states, is that it reduces the need to use antibiotics, and an advantage to use of the bleach is that organisms do not develop a resistance to its action. However some patience may be required as it may take 3 to 4 weeks to see results. Also it should be noted that in the study a moisturizer was used after each bath and may be required by most people to hydrate the skin after each such bath. Those who suffer from severely damaged skin such as cracking are cautioned not to use the dilute solution of bleach until the condition of the skin has improved as it my be quite painful if used on such damaged skin.

Not perfect, but simple, low tech, inexpensive, and for many, very effective!

Read about it here:

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1894149,00.html

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/health&id=7103702

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=99770
 

Spirit Raintree

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Healing eczema

Interesting string of thoughts and feelings. Health issues tend to stimulate strong emotional response because they are so personal.

Generally, I'd have to agree with the folks steering away from Clorox to "heal" anything. Just because a substance stimulates a response in the body and is scientifically measurable does not mean that it's the best way to do it.

You can lose weight instantly by cutting off a body part. Scientifically, that would be considered an "effective" method. Science is not always objective. Good science is awesome. Bad science can and has been used to cause a tremendous amount of harm in this world. When money or influence is considered before the well being of the inhabitants of the planet (all the inhabitants, not just humans), bad things oftentimes result.

Nature is the only consistently reliable system. It's been working longer than anything created by man. Mankind has done some amazing things. I'm not certain if the wonderful things we've done balance out the horrendous things we've done.

I follow the philosophy that if you get out of Nature's way, it works really well.

Eczema is an imbalance. Anything that is out of balance can be brought back to balance. I don't believe in "cures" because I don't believe in the modern Western definition of disease. Far before modern medicine invented disease, there were more advanced systems of medicine that referred to health in terms of balance and imbalance.

Eczema is an imbalance characterized by inflammation, redness, dry and itchy skin. It can also manifest as oozing lesions in extreme cases. After a while, repeated scratching often causes the skin to become thick and crusty. All around, it's a real drag.

Any part of your body can be affected by eczema, but it has a tendency to manifest on the face, neck, elbows, knees, and ankles. On infants, it sometimes shows up on the forehead, cheeks, forearms, legs, scalp, and neck.

In my work as a nutritionist, I've seen great results with a combination of foods rich in Essential Fatty Acids (EFA's), leafy green vegetables, and aloe vera taken internally and externally. This combination re-balances most of the factors associated with skin problems of any type.

My favorite form of EFA is shelled hemp seed. Hemp seed has a perfectly balanced blend of all the oils your body needs. It is delicious, highly nutritious, and a great source of protein. It's also a whole food. Since our bodies are designed to consume whole foods, I have a tendency to stick to whole foods when possible. Two tablespoons of shelled hemp seed daily will providearound 8 grams of healing EFA's.

The next major component of a healing protocol for eczema is leafy green vegetables. Leafy green vegetables are nature's best source of macro minerals like calcium, magnesium, and iron. Trace minerals and chlorophyll also contribute to the nutritional profile and play a large role in healing your skin.

Chlorophyll plays a key part in healing eczema. This wonderful green juice aids in liver function by acting as a blood detoxifier. Since skin health is directly linked to liver health, chlorophyll rich leafy green foods are a very important part in healing skin issues like eczema. The additional fiber, antioxidants and carotenoids in chlorophyll round out its benefits nicely. Eat 2-3 cups of leafy greens daily.

The last key component to healing eczema is aloe vera. Internally, aloe vera rebalances the immune system without stimulating an aggressive reaction. Since many skin problems (eczema, psoriasis, etc.) are auto-immune disorders, this is very important. Two ounces of good quality aloe juice taken twice daily on an empty stomach will provide noticeable results. It can take 3-6 months but it will completely heal the imbalance in most cases.

Topically, aloe vera soothes and heals damaged skin. It has more of an immediate effect for the symptoms than when taken internally. Anyone who has eczema knows how important it is to have immediate relief.

One note about aloe vera juice: Be sure you buy good quality aloe. Most products sold at mainstream stores are garbage, even if the label states 100% aloe. Stick with brands that are certified by the IASC (International
Aloe Science Council). My favorites are Aloe Life and Lily of the Desert.

For the sake of a quick recap, consume hemp seeds for EFA's, leafy greens for minerals and chlorophyll, and aloe to soothe and balance immune function. A sauna or steam room would help with removal of toxins. Bathing in epsom salts and oatmeal soothes, heals, and provides detoxification. Deep breathing also promotes detoxification as well as oxygenating your body.

There are some nutritional basics that should be a part of any diet. Drink at least 64 ounces of fresh water daily. Reduce or eliminate refined sugar (especially soda) and refined salt. Eliminate all artificial flavors, colors, and
preservatives. Reduce or eliminate alcohol, tobacco use, and deep fried foods. Reduce or eliminate dairy products.

Make fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, non-glutenous grains (rice, quinoa, millet, amaranth, buckwheat), and legumes the majority of your caloric intake.

Thanks to everybody for sharing their thoughts.
 

Arrowwind09

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I think a blanket condemnation of bleach is a little extreme. Bleach is useful for sanitizing and is one of the only products you can use for certain applications.

I had to shock my well as there was iron related bacteria in my well causing a sulfur smell. I do not know of any other way of sanitizing a well other than using bleach. It is better than consuming unknown bacteria that can make you ill. Of course you have to run the water out to get rid of most of the bleach, but I am quite sure there is some left. It worked, and our water does not stink any more.

Dan
:)
There's always sodium chlorite!
 

Arrowwind09

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Ezcema is often caused by an allergy to an environmental toxin. Remove the toxin and the ecezma will go. For babies its often allergy to their formula.

Homeopathy can frequently remove the state that causes the allergy.
 

just me

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I posted this article back in march of 08.... I believe that in our case, grandsons eczema was lack of probiotic in his system... we have had so much success in getting rid of his eczema by using probiotics and by keeping him away from sugar... Ok, so it helped that this child goes bonkers when he eats sugar... if he gets any sugar after two oclock in the afternoon, we are in for a very long night... so he gets so much less junk food then sister or brother gets...Granted its hard with sister and brother being allowed the junk for him not to get it, but for now... they are keeping it at a minimum... and his sugar intake on most days is none... He doesnt seem to like bread or noodles or even box cereal... he would rather have a banana and a piece of sausage for breakfast then anything else..... Now over the holidays, he has eaten more sugar then normal, and I have noticed his legs breaking out again, so we started him back on the probiotic and getting back on his regular food and away from the junk..... But I would highly recommend the probiotics for sure!!!!
weblink:www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080123175324.htm
 

Arrowwind09

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So he has a gut dyscrasia. You have to ask, why does he not maintain a normal gut flora? I would suspect leaky gut and overgrowth of foul bacteria. If he can't maintain a healthy gut flora then you will have vitamin B deficiency also. Normal healthy gut flora produce lots of B vitamins.
 

just me

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Can they be born with leaky gut ??? This is the grandson that was born with TAR syndrome.. And from what I am to understand, eczema is a common occurance in tar syndrome kids.. so apparently, the low blood platelette levels cause the stomach issues???? Is there a way to nutritionally fix leaky gut?
 

Arrowwind09

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I just dont know with a syndrome like that. I don't expect anyone does.
I have posted a protocol for leaky gut here somewhere. Do a search.
 


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