Cholesterol

ozzie

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Definately stopped taking Cholesterol meds long ago and decided to eat better, guess what? Cholesterol is perfect now, and mine was supposed to be hereditary.
 

Audi

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Australia
hi ozzie
can I ask you to elaborate on 'eat better' , did you cut out fats or anything else in your diet or take supplements?.
I too have elevated cholesterol levels which the doctor wants to medicate me for but she has agreed to give me six months to bring it down myself ,not sure how to go about it since I consider my diet to already be healthy enough.
 

ozzie

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Audi,I don't know if being vegetarian helps, but I got it down from 6.2 down to 5.5 total cholesterol,I believe having oats for breakfast,not cooked but soaked with boiling water,then milk and a sliced banana on top,I make my own almond milk to have on breakfast, don't use sugar at all,only use olive oil for cooking, and drink Oolong tea, Rooi bos and green tea most of the time and 1 cup of coffee a day the only meat I might have occasionally is tuna, I have sweet potatoes rather than white and multi grain bread rather than white I cant say I have lost any weight,but at least my cholesterol is down ,beware of Canola oil as that is very bad for us.
We also eat quite a few stir fry vegetables, and wholemeal pasta dishes now and then and generally have a salad sandwich for lunch,by following this diet I also have my Diabetes well and truly under control.
We still enjoy having pieces of birthday cake when we celebrate family birthdays:)
I hope this is of some help to you Audi
PS I have just started having a lemon drink first thing in the morning and again last drink for the evening.
 

ozzie

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Audi yes I do take a multi vitamin and 1000 ui of D3, we do share a packet of crisps now and then as a treat and a few pieces of dark chocolate ,we don't drink any alcohol either.
 

Audi

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thanks ozzie, I can see where I could improve my diet with fibre and exercise ,not going vegen though that's too harsh for one who likes steak and cake and and, ok I could cut down on those too.
 

d0ug

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In June 25 2014 Time Magazine had a front page donated to the cholesterol fraud. American Heart association promoted a machinery grease [Crisco] as being better for you than saturated fat. Why did they do that maybe it was the 1.7 million dollars.
 

JanH

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California
There was a blurb in the AARP mag recently saying: "Fast Pass - Scientists now say there's no reason for patients to fast for six to eight hours before testing of cholesterol levels. A New York University School of Medicine study finds that nonfasting readings are just as accurate as fasting ones. 'We should abandon the requirement for fasting,' says study coauthor Sripal Bangalore."

I'd welcome comments on this. Kaiser requires a 12-hour fast for cholesterol tests. I'm diabetic and my fasting blood sugar goes down for around 8 hours, then starts going back up, so when they test after 12 hours it's something like 60 points higher than true lowest. The doctors know this, yet insist, "That's the number we use." (meaning the one after 12 hours. Plus I feel terrible for about three days after fasting and all for naught regarding the cholesterol numbers? I'm not particularly concerned about my cholesterol numbers but my doctor is, of course, because he loves to push statins on me (which I refuse).
 

Living Food

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Cholesterol is not the villain many think it is.

the doctor wants to medicate me for but she has agreed to give me six months to bring it down myself
Doctors have no power over you and they can't force you to do anything. To say your doctor has "agreed" to give you 6 months to make a change before they force drugs on you, is to give your doctor far too much power by buying into the illusion of authority. I would not suffer the nonsense of a doctor who goes around trying to push drugs on people, especially not for something so innocent as high cholesterol. I'm sure your doctor is a very nice person, but she is either knowingly or unknowingly in the pocket of the drug companies and seems to know very little about health (with doctors this is the rule rather than the exception).

I will say it again - cholesterol is not the villain many think it is. Cholesterol-lowering drugs, on the other hand, are horrifically devastating to your health.
 

larryz

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Exactly, Living Food.

Really, what's the need for a PCP or family doctor if you are taking control of your own health, educating yourself, etc? Or even a pediatrician? They exist to push drugs on you.
 

Audi

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Cholesterol is not the villain many think it is.



Doctors have no power over you and they can't force you to do anything. To say your doctor has "agreed" to give you 6 months to make a change before they force drugs on you, is to give your doctor far too much power by buying into the illusion of authority. I would not suffer the nonsense of a doctor who goes around trying to push drugs on people, especially not for something so innocent as high cholesterol. I'm sure your doctor is a very nice person, but she is either knowingly or unknowingly in the pocket of the drug companies and seems to know very little about health (with doctors this is the rule rather than the exception).

I will say it again - cholesterol is not the villain many think it is. Cholesterol-lowering drugs, on the other hand, are horrifically devastating to your health.
of course the doctor has no power over me, final decisions are mine alone.
the Doc agrees diet/exercise is the best way to bring cholesterol down and I will be tested again in 6 months, no doubt she will want to medicate me if I don't succeed ,that is how mainstream medicine works,but I don't have to comply even if I don't believe cholesterol is oh so innocent.

Dr Michael Mosley did an interesting experiment on the effects of high meat consumption, for 30 days he consumed 130g per day of red and processed meats, in that short time his LDL cholesterol increased significantly, that doesn't sound innocent to me.I will be monitering my meat consumption and see what happens to the cholesterol levels.
 

Audi

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From a paleo perspective, those are not healthy foods. That would be the equivalent of criticizing a vegan diet because potato chips are vegan. :)
think you missed the whole point and nit picked only part of experiment.
The experiment was backed up with test's before and after of high meat consumption which consisted of red and processed meats,not exclusively processed meats.
 

Rankx

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Hi Audi. The doctor has no idea what he/she is talking about when it comes to Cholesterol.
In fact, LDL and HDL levels are not very accurate to test your cholesterol levels because for the LDL there about 5 different types of LDL molecules and the tests they use do not reveal this.

High Cholesterol levels in the blood is cause by free radical damage to your arteries. Free radicals destroy your arteries and cause them to bleed. The body in its wisdom, uses cholesterol as a bandage and lays it down in the artery to step the healing and help the artery heal. But if you consume foods which bring free radicals into the body, it starts doing the same thing again, and the body lays down more cholesterol.

So the doctors give you cholesterol lowering drugs to cause inflammation in the liver and reduce the liver's ability to make cholesterol, therefore making your blood cholesterol levels lower. Then the free radical damage causes other problems around the body.

What contributes to free radicals? FRIED FOODS AND OILS. Eliminate your intake of fried foods and oil and do not stay away from cholesterol rich foods or take any drugs to lower it. Also increase you antioxidant intake to neutralize the free radicals in your system. That should be sufficient to the cause.
 

pinballdoctor

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Saskatchewan Canada
Doctor Glidden is totally right when he says statin drugs dry up your brain and cause liver disease.

Statin drugs also damage your joints.

Now take a 50 year old man and put him on statin drugs and a cholesterol free diet. In 10 years he will have Alzheimers.

Statins take away the two things you need the most when you age...your memory and your joints.
 

Ajax

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No. Processed food is processed food.

If I eat GMO corn fried in GMO soybean oil and get cancer, does that mean vegetable based diets are dangerous? :confused:
Thats the problem with most "truth about" webpages. They fail to take in the whole picture and just pick out the part they want to prove their point, whether erroneous or not. Me, I'm throwing organic extra virgin coconut oil in everything and --hmmm -- lost 10 pounds and have the blood pressure and heart rate of someone 25 years younger.
 

Solstice Goat

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Thats the problem with most "truth about" webpages. They fail to take in the whole picture and just pick out the part they want to prove their point, whether erroneous or not. Me, I'm throwing organic extra virgin coconut oil in everything and --hmmm -- lost 10 pounds and have the blood pressure and heart rate of someone 25 years younger.

Too true!

Coconut stuff is good for us. :)
 


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