Breast lump SOS!

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Judie777

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Here we go. I had a physical yesterday done by the oncologist who did my hysterectomy 11 years ago for the cervical cancer. There is a lump on the outside of my left breast. This is a new discovery as my primary care did a manual breast exam on me in June and didn't find anything, OR missed it, but she's pretty good and has always been over cautious.
My issue is this. The oncologist is insisting on a MAMMOGRAM and I want thermography. No risk, no radiation. He says he does NOT use thermography.
Any advice here? As far as I can see, he wants the mammography just to verify that there is something there, and then do a scan anyway with sound waves. Won't a thermography test show the same as a mammography?
 

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Judie,

I'm sorry to hear of this. I'll be hoping that it's nothing serious.

I'm not very well informed about how good a detection techique breast thermography is (compared to mammography). One source, cited below, states that it can be about 96% accurate - provided that the testing is done by a reputable lab.

These two links may be helpful (I hope). The first describes the importance of finding a good technician/facility. The second offers some resources for finding a good thermography facility.

http://www.healingwell.com/LIBRARY/breastcancer/article.asp?author=cockburn&id=1

http://www.breastthermography.org/findalab.html

I hope this helps a little. Stay strong! :)
 

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Julie,

I think thermography is a good choice and you should insist on it as studies have proved their reliability. But you could also go for a sonogram which should not be a problem. They can often rule out cancer with this test.

Let us know how it goes.
 

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Thanks to you both. I've got a call in to my primary as I have to get a referral. I hope she'll do it. She's thorough and never hesitates to refer me to the proper specialist but in this case, the specialist is not on my side.
 

Arrowwind09

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Another thought. You may want to read this article. If the cancer is localized, if it is cancer at all, this might be a consideration. Remember, cutting almost always spreads cancer. That is why they want you to do chemo and radiation after surgery. Also. just because you had cancer in the past it does not mean that this cancer would be spread of that one. I see more and more people lately who have had more than one type of cancer.

http://www.healthsalon.org/377/breast-cancer-cure-with-laser-treatment-and-alternative-medicine/

http://www.lasemedinc.com/

and you may find some good info here:
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/breastcancer.htm

http://www.drday.com/

I do think that my doctor would want to make sure your iodine levels are up to par through use of supplemental iodine. Not that is a cure but may strenghten and fortify breast tissue.
 
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Judie777

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Thanks for those links. I just wrote out a fax to my primary care with some of the facts stated in the articles in this link. I hope she'll work with me. She IS only a primary care and with the oncologist not wanting to authorize the safer therm test versus the mamm test I'm afraid she'll balk at it.
The statements I sent to her should be reassuring enough.
 

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GOOD LUCK, and try not to worry too much. Yu odon't know if it is C, it might be something else, and stressing won't help any.

Be striong, chin up and I hope it is nothing much to worry about :).
 

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Lousy docs!

My primary care will NOT prescribe another test. I suspected that as she is one to refer you over to the experts and will not second guess any experts recommendation. Her PA called me today and understood why I was refusing the mammogram, (which was scheduled for tomorrow and I canceled it). BUT, she couldn't do anything about another test. So I get out my trusty little yellow pages, and one of our hospitals close to me has a cancer center. I talked in depth to a PA there and told him why I was calling, etc. Naturally he couldn't make any promises as to what they would want to do but I'm hoping once I get there they'll test me one way to verify the lump if I refuse the other. I just want the stupid bump identified! Then I'll do my own treatments if necessary.
You'd think I was asking for the moon.:roll:
 

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Not quite the moon, but you are questioning their expertise.

One other bit of information that you might want to consider. Some time ago I read that when a physician is examining a possible breast lump for cancer that they should only use very light pressure. This was to prevent the possibility of having a few cancer cells break off and then travel to other parts of the body.

Yet with a mammogram extreme pressure is used but now you are told that it’s OK? :confused:
 

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Not quite the moon, but you are questioning their expertise.

One other bit of information that you might want to consider. Some time ago I read that when a physician is examining a possible breast lump for cancer that they should only use very light pressure. This was to prevent the possibility of having a few cancer cells break off and then travel to other parts of the body.

Yet with a mammogram extreme pressure is used but now you are told that it’s OK? :confused:
Thats EXACTLY my point. This has really opened my eyes to see for myself first hand how intentionally ignorant the medical profession is forced into acting. I will win this one. Its MY life they are playing with and I am NOT ignorant :!:

Mike Adams today on Christina Applegate:
http://www.naturalnews.com/023907.html
 
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Sally B.

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Judie777,

I once had a lump in my breast and without getting a mammogram, and I did not know there were other methods for testing at the time, I did a castor oil pack and it absolutely worked. This was over three years ago. Since then I have discovered what I believe to be the cause of cancer which is fungus. I did not know at the time, but have since learned that castor oil is an antifungal!!! Someone on another forum recommended I try the castor oil pack due to the fact that it worked for her. I didn't know why it worked, but I tried it anyway as there are no bad side effects so I had nothing to lose. The lump disappeared in a few days.
If I were to get another lump, which fortunately I have not, I would definitely go on Doug Kaufmann's antifungal diet. If you are not familiar with Doug Kaufmann and his tv show Know the Cause, check out his website and watch his streaming videos. I have four of his books and have been on the diet and use natural antifungals and probiotics. Doug's book The Germ That Causes Cancer says that cancer is caused from fungus. He has been studying fungus for over 30 years. Anyway, check out his website:

www.knowthecause.com

Sally B.
 

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I have just recently started using castor oil packs... at first I thought it would be a real mess and not worth the hassle... not too much of a mess, and the results amazed me!!! I will keep it in my bag of tricks.... As much as my kids laugh at me for all these weird concoctions I learn about, Im the first one they come running to when something is wrong!!!
 

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Thanks

Thanks to all. Its amazing the things in life that have always been common and around us and have the best benefits! Talk about an easy, natural way to heal complicated issues!
If this mass in my breast comes back positive, I'll probably go with the B17 and this castor oil pack. I certainly have nothing to lose. I should probably do the c.o. pack anyway.
I've still not had a scan. I contacted my primary care and though she wouldn't prescribe a different test, she did fill my request to refer me to a different oncology center. I'm waiting now on record transfers and an appointment. I hope I this new doctor won't give me a hard time about a mammogram cause I'll just have to walk again!
 

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Judie

Generally, the protocol for breast lumps is a mamogram first. If it is positive then a sonogram follows, then if indicated a biopsy. This is what the insurance companies want.

Perhaps if you offer to pay for the sonogram out of pocket you will get what you want.
 

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A thermography is $300.00. I know ins. co. will pay for the sonogram with the doctors referral, but thats the issue. I'll find one that will do it eventually.
I live near Albany, NY., so if anyone has an idea of a good holistic doc nearby let me know. I'm about 2 hours north of NYC. Thanks.
 

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I am wondering, wouldnt it be better for Judie to go ahead and start the castor oil packs now??? I also wonder if iodine would help her... Why do I keep thinking that rosie used iodine or recommended iodine for lumps in breast??(gosh wish she could spend more time with us!) Even if the lump isnt cancerous, you still dont want it in your body right?? I would think the castor oil packs would be the least intrusive way to get rid of the dern thing....I mean, granted, if it were me, Id be slapping the thing around yelling at it, telling it to get out of my body... what was that play... out damn spot, out!!!!
 

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Hopefully in the future Insurance companies will be more giving, as clearly they're restricting the person in instances like this, by not showing more understanding about the persons needs.

Judie, I hope things work out for you, and I hope you that life brings you many warm moments on such a difficult journey.

Best wishes.:)
 

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It is thought that sufficient iodine levels may help prevent breast cancer. Breast tissue holds a lot of iodine.

After I started iodine supplementation fibrocystic lumps disappeared. My doc says she sees these kind of results all the time. I once went through the scare thing having to have a sonogram after a mamogram for those lumps. Thats when I decided no more mamograms for me, over 10 years ago now.

And yes, I would start the castor oil packs now too. Although rare there have been reports of tumors disappearing after castor oil packs.
 

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Great article, Arrowwind,

As a matter of fact, it was Leppert who helped me with my first castor oil pack over three years ago. I did it just way she explains it using a gauze pad because that is what I had on hand at the time. I was planning on flying to Utah in three days and was very worried about the hard painful lump that appeared out of the blue on my breast. I was sceptical, but because I had nothing to lose, I decided to try it. The pain was gone in a day, and the entire lump was gone in approximately three days. I was thrilled that I did not have to worry about it while on vacation! I miss Leppert. Is she here using another name?

Judie,

I would not hesitate to do this. I can see no reason to wait until you get tested. You will want to get rid of it even if it is not cancerous. Good luck!

Sally B.
 

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Sally B, I had e-mails with Leppert a long while ago - it feels like a long while!- she was having extra physiotherapy and busy doing other things. I don't think she has been here.
I can tell her you have asked for her, though. You two go back a way.:)

E-mail sent.
 

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Great article, Arrowwind,

As a matter of fact, it was Leppert who helped me with my first castor oil pack over three years ago. I did it just way she explains it using a gauze pad because that is what I had on hand at the time. I was planning on flying to Utah in three days and was very worried about the hard painful lump that appeared out of the blue on my breast. I was sceptical, but because I had nothing to lose, I decided to try it. The pain was gone in a day, and the entire lump was gone in approximately three days. I was thrilled that I did not have to worry about it while on vacation! I miss Leppert. Is she here using another name?

Judie,

I would not hesitate to do this. I can see no reason to wait until you get tested. You will want to get rid of it even if it is not cancerous. Good luck!

Sally B.
So probably the best and easiest way to do the castor oil pack on my breast is to use gauze, oil, plastic, and then the heating pad?
 

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