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Both of the Aubry products have a coconut fatty acid cream base so you must not be very alergic. I have never tried them. Do they have much fragrance?

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One real problem is the extreme dryness of my hands and it's hard to do anything with gooey oil on them, so I'm constantly having to wash it off and replace it. I need to get cotton gloves that can be washed.

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I'm sure that one of my big triggers is sugar...I have a hard time staying away from sweets.
Nightowl,

You are correct, the Aubrey products do use coconut fatty acids as a base. I've tried using pure coconut oil on my skin but I found that it doesn't absorb well-enough, quick-enough. Otherwise, I would be open to giving it a try. That's part of the reason that I like the Vegecol product. It absorbs well and doesn't leave a film.

Both of the Aubrey product do have a natural fragrance added to them. I wouldn't say it's a strong fragrance. It's noticable at first but fades after a short while, IME.

re: sugar cravings

I've had a long-standing problem with this as well. The one thing I've found that really, truly works to diminish cravings is sticking to a low-carb diet for several days. It's hard at first. But, as the days go on, the cravings lessen, IME. The sooner you balance your blood sugar levels and tame your psychological dependence ... the sooner the cravings become distant fellows.

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Green tea could hold promise as a new treatment for skin disorders such as psoriasis and dandruff.

What if psoriasis and dandruff were caused by fungus?

What if green tea and olives treat these problems because they are antifungal?

After all, dandruff shampoos contain zinc or selenium, and both are antifungal. They are not strong enough to kill the fungus, only to control it. That way, you have to keep buying/using the products, and that keeps the money flowing!

Why do they suggest to cut back on sugar and simple carbs? Because they feed fungus.

Besides skin problems, what other conditions are caused by fungus/mycotoxins?
*Migraines, brain fog/memory loss, sinus problems, hypertension, high cholesterol, chrons, ringworm, athletes foot, IBS, arthritis, gout, ear infections, and thrush, just to name a few.

Most doctors consider all of the above health conditions to be unrelated, and the cause of each is unknown..

Some doctors treat yeast/fungus infection with antibiotics, which is like trying to put out a fire with gas. Most of these health problems can be traced back to antibiotic use, sometimes going back 20 or 30 years.

It takes a long time to kill fungus, so be patient.

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Thanks for all the good advice Harry,...and Pinballdoctor, you did a great job on connecting the dots. I used to drink a lot of water and in later years I think I've traded water for sugar. It's easier to munch on snacks than to get up and get a glass of water when working on my computer. I'm probably a little dehydrated too. I've also thought that psoriasis might be caused by a fungus, mainly because of the itching. I've started taking oregano oil extract, which is anti-fungal, and also cilantro extract and chlorella in case it's a reaction to aluminum alergy...because so many foods are packaged in aluminum. Even the chlorella is in an aluminum package! A capsule I have to put into an applicator, pierce holes in and inhale the powder from, called Foradil, is also in an aluminum bubble packet. That's for COPD.

I do appreciate all your help. Thanks again.
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Thanks for all the good advice Harry,...and Pinballdoctor, you did a great job on connecting the dots. I used to drink a lot of water and in later years I think I've traded water for sugar. It's easier to munch on snacks than to get up and get a glass of water when working on my computer. I'm probably a little dehydrated too. I've also thought that psoriasis might be caused by a fungus, mainly because of the itching. I've started taking oregano oil extract, which is anti-fungal, and also cilantro extract and chlorella in case it's a reaction to aluminum alergy...because so many foods are packaged in aluminum. Even the chlorella is in an aluminum package! A capsule I have to put into an applicator, pierce holes in and inhale the powder from, called Foradil, is also in an aluminum bubble packet. That's for COPD.

I do appreciate all your help. Thanks again.
COPD is another health problem caused by fungus.

I hope you are aware of the side effects of Formoterol. The oil of oregano is a good idea, but unless you are taking alot, then it won't kill the fungus. If you put about 35 drops into an empty "00" capsule and took one in the morning and another before bed, that would help. It is also important to alternate between different antifungals, because they can become resistant. I would suggest olive leaf extract and grapefruit seed extract, and it takes a long time to kill fungus. An antifungal diet would also help.
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I've read a lot of articles about COPD but I believe this is the first time I've seen that it is caused by a fungus. Usually they say it's caused by the 40+ years that I smoked. I believe there's a good possability that you are right because I was raised where it constantly rained in S.W. Washington state and was always damp. Mold and moss grew everywhere that there was a little shade. I'm still in a similar climate in Vancouver, WA now, but have lived in dryer areas in Utah and northern Idaho abot 15 years of my life too. Smoking probably added irritation to the fungal environment. As a child I was constantly sick with colds and sore throats, and had my tonsils removed at 9 years old. I used to crawl into bed with my parents when I was little if I felt sick, and one night remember my mother turning on the light, throwing back the covers and yelling to my dad, "My God, she's turning blue!" I had a very high fever. My first recall of having pneumonia was when I was 16, and I had it often after that. I used to get what they called walking pneumonia that had no major symptoms until it showed up in an x-ray...that may have been fungus.

I usually check the side affects of all drugs prescribed to me because I don't trust any of them, but have to say that I haven't looked at Formoterol. It was about the last thing my doctor could give me when I balked at taking Advair and Spiriva. Knowing how hydrocortisone thins skin on my hands, I can imagine what steroids would do to the delicate lining of the lungs. I will read the information in the Formoterol package tonight. I will say that the past few weeks it seems to irritate my throat a little, and I've started coughing up small amounts of mucous which was almost under controle before.

Where do I find liquid drops of oil of oregano? I thought the Gaia wild Mediterranean Supercritical CO2 Extract of Oregano that I've been using was probably about the best there is. One gelcap has 460 mg of extract and at 1 - 2x per day, 2 capsules are standardized to 64 mg Carvacol. Do you think I need more than 2 per day, or do you recommend a different product? I already have some empty capsules that I could use. I doubt if there are anywhere near 35 drops in each of these capsules. They always seemed so powerful that I was afraid to double up...have you ever burped after taking one?!

I am not getting notices in my email when someone posts on a thread I'm on here, so I'm sorry that it takes me a while to answer. I try to check several times throughout the day manually. There is a problem with Comcast treating this website as spam, and my preferences don't seem to matter. Kevin was aware of the problem and it seemed that I got it working, then it stopped again!

Thanks for all your help!
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Harry, Nightowl.. electrical current helped absorption of vitamin c.. might help with these other treatments.

Method and apparatus for electrically assisted topical delivery of agents for cosmetic applications
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FIELD OF THE INVENTION

The present invention generally relates to methods for enhancing the effectiveness of cosmetic pharmaceuticals used to improve the appearance of skin. In particular, the present invention relates to use of electroporation-mediated topical delivery of agents, such as Vitamin C.

BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION

The main factors causing skin aging are natural processes (such as aging), lifestyle factors (such as smoking), and environmental stressors (such as UV radiation, chemical pollutants, etc.). It is now medically recognized that many of these factors damage skin through production of oxy-radical damage. Superoxide and the subsequently generated hydrogen peroxide and hydroxyl radical are oxygen-containing free radicals now known to be generated in vivo under a variety of normal and pathological conditions. An immense amount of work has been done in the last two decades documenting the deleterious behavior of oxygen radicals. These radicals have been implicated as causative agents for everything from sunburn to aging and have been shown to effect skin and other tissues by destroying lipid membranes, breaking down DNA, inactivating enzymes, and the like. As a result of this damage, certain anatomical changes occur, including thinning of the epidermis, thickening of the stratum comeum, reduction of blood supply to the skin, loss of collagen, and formation of age spots, lines and wrinkles.

L-ascorbic acid (vitamin C), a water-soluble antioxidant, can protect fatty tissues from oxy-radical damage by reacting with both superoxide and hydroxyl radicals. It also plays an integral role in collagen synthesis and wound healing by acting as a co-factor for hydroxylation of the proline and lysine residues of procollagen and promoting formation of the triple-helical conformation of mature collagen fibers. This conformation is required for the processing of procollagen to collagen (D. J. Prockop et al., "Intracellular steps in the biosynthesis of collagen" In: Biochemistry of Collagen, G. N. Ramachandran and A. H. Reddi (Eds.), Plenum Press, New York, 1976, 163-273; C. I. Levene and C. J. Bates, Ann. NY Acad. Sci. 258 [Suppl.]:288-306, 1975). L-ascorbic acid has also been shown to increase both the rate of transcription of procollagen genes and stability of procollagen mRNA (S. Tajima and S. R. Pinnell, Biochem. Biophys. Res. Commun. 106:632-637, 1982; B. L. Lyons and R. I. Schwarz, Nucleic. Acids Res. 12,2569-2579, 1984) as well as to modulate growth properties of cells (R. Hata et al., Eur J Biochem. 173:261-267, 198.

In spite of these important activities of L-ascorbic acid for treatment of aging, environmental damage, wound healing, and the like, a drawback of its topical application is its instability. L-Ascorbic acid is chemically defined as an alpha-keto-lactone wherein the number 2 and 3 carbons are double-bonded and contain an acid-ionizable hydrogen in water (pK=4.2). Ascorbic acid is also a moderately strong reductant. These properties, which lead to instability in the ascorbic acid structure, are well known and have been burdensome to pharmacologists when attempting to formulate active ascorbic acid solutions. For example, at higher pH, ascorbic acid increasingly is transformed to the notoriously unstable ascorbate anion. This instability may be due to several causes, among which are the following:

a) Stereochemical strain due to polar repulsive forces. As a result, when the 2-hydroxy group ionizes, two negative charges form in close proximity, thereby favoring ring disruption.

b) Oxidative degradation due to the propensity of the ascorbate anion to act as a reductant. The one-electron oxidation product (dehydroascorbate free radical) tends to disproportionate, forming another ascorbate molecule and the two-electron oxidation product (dehydroascorbate), which is extremely unstable in aqueous solution and breaks down to ultimately form species such as L-threonic acid and oxalic acid. Transition metal ions can catalyze these reactions.

c) Degradation due to water attack. At lower ascorbic concentrations or ionic strength, water itself can react with and degrade the ascorbate molecule.

For these reasons, among others, scientists working in the field have had difficulty in formulating stable solutions of ascorbic acid which would be useful for cosmetic or dermatological needs. Nevertheless, because of the many beneficial pharmaceutical effects attributed to ascorbic acid, numerous attempts have been made to overcome these difficulties, as well as user compliance with the extended application schedule required, by adding minerals or metabolites and L-ascorbic acid derivatives into the formulation. Several commercial products are currently used in cosmetology such as C-Mate (L-ascorbic acid-2-P magnesium salt, neutral pH), Cellex-C.TM. (serum, pH 2.2), ESTER-CO (topical concentrate, pH 6.7), and products from Intaglio.RTM. (pH<3.5) and AGERA.RTM. (neutral pH). However, the required duration of therapy is relatively long (weeks to months) and skin irritation will occur with prolonged application of acidic pH formulations.

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Kevin, could you raise that limit?
That must be a very long article. I raised the limit from 10K to 50K, should be enough now.
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Now I can publish my book on this forum...

Just kidding, Kevin!
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https://www.champori.com/psoriasis-relief.asp

This product has the inidgo naturalis in it and I used it for my P and it was helpful but not curative. This site shows some very good results though and I do think that what works for one person may not work as well for another.

I cure the P on my hands with topical Lugos Iodine al la Dr. Simoncini but the P on my knee just got very sore and continued on. Thats when I mega dosed on Vit D3 and now it still remains 90 percent gone.

I saw my doc last week and she said that some doctors feel that levels of vit d up to 150 are ok. I tested at 130 after I did my mega dosing. Before I took it I was sub normal and that was after taking Vit D3 in fish oil form for a number of months, at, I forget, either 1,000 or 2,000 IU daily.

I read somewhere that vit d3 is similar to a steroid.
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I've read a lot of articles about COPD but I believe this is the first time I've seen that it is caused by a fungus. Usually they say it's caused by the 40+ years that I smoked. I believe there's a good possability that you are right because I was raised where it constantly rained in S.W. Washington state and was always damp. Mold and moss grew everywhere that there was a little shade. I'm still in a similar climate in Vancouver, WA now, but have lived in dryer areas in Utah and northern Idaho abot 15 years of my life too. Smoking probably added irritation to the fungal environment. As a child I was constantly sick with colds and sore throats, and had my tonsils removed at 9 years old. I used to crawl into bed with my parents when I was little if I felt sick, and one night remember my mother turning on the light, throwing back the covers and yelling to my dad, "My God, she's turning blue!" I had a very high fever. My first recall of having pneumonia was when I was 16, and I had it often after that. I used to get what they called walking pneumonia that had no major symptoms until it showed up in an x-ray...that may have been fungus.

I usually check the side affects of all drugs prescribed to me because I don't trust any of them, but have to say that I haven't looked at Formoterol. It was about the last thing my doctor could give me when I balked at taking Advair and Spiriva. Knowing how hydrocortisone thins skin on my hands, I can imagine what steroids would do to the delicate lining of the lungs. I will read the information in the Formoterol package tonight. I will say that the past few weeks it seems to irritate my throat a little, and I've started coughing up small amounts of mucous which was almost under controle before.

Where do I find liquid drops of oil of oregano? I thought the Gaia wild Mediterranean Supercritical CO2 Extract of Oregano that I've been using was probably about the best there is. One gelcap has 460 mg of extract and at 1 - 2x per day, 2 capsules are standardized to 64 mg Carvacol. Do you think I need more than 2 per day, or do you recommend a different product? I already have some empty capsules that I could use. I doubt if there are anywhere near 35 drops in each of these capsules. They always seemed so powerful that I was afraid to double up...have you ever burped after taking one?!

I am not getting notices in my email when someone posts on a thread I'm on here, so I'm sorry that it takes me a while to answer. I try to check several times throughout the day manually. There is a problem with Comcast treating this website as spam, and my preferences don't seem to matter. Kevin was aware of the problem and it seemed that I got it working, then it stopped again!

Thanks for all your help!
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I found out, only a few weeks ago, that tobacco is full of mold and fungus.
I also found out that steroids of any kind worsen fungus problems.

As far as the oil of oregano is concerned, I buy one-ounce bottles on ebay for cheap, but any decent health food store will carry it. Some brands are only 40% carvacrol, so go with one that has 95% carvacrol. Use the built-in eye dropper to fill empty capsules.
When trying to kill yeast/fungus, it is important to alternate between different antifungals, because fungi can become resistant to only one antifungal. Grapefruit seed extract is a good antifungal, as is olive leaf extract.
There have been times when I've taken two capsules of oregano oil to fight off a cold. That is approx 70 drops of 95% carvacrol oil, and yes I've burped after. Just keep a glass of cold water handy just in case.
I would also consider an antifungal inhaler, so that the fungus can be killed by directly breathing in the antifungal mist. I've seen a good one, made from a mixture of different antifungals in a nasel spray (cheap) at:
https://www.seagateproducts.com/olive...sal-spray.html
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https://www.champori.com/psoriasis-relief.asp

This product has the inidgo naturalis in it and I used it for my P and it was helpful but not curative. This site shows some very good results though and I do think that what works for one person may not work as well for another.

I cure the P on my hands with topical Lugos Iodine al la Dr. Simoncini but the P on my knee just got very sore and continued on. Thats when I mega dosed on Vit D3 and now it still remains 90 percent gone.

I saw my doc last week and she said that some doctors feel that levels of vit d up to 150 are ok. I tested at 130 after I did my mega dosing. Before I took it I was sub normal and that was after taking Vit D3 in fish oil form for a number of months, at, I forget, either 1,000 or 2,000 IU daily.

I read somewhere that vit d3 is similar to a steroid.
If you Google Vitamin D3 Steroids you'll bring up bunch of 'related' definitions of the 2.
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Arrowwind09,

That is the indigo naturalis ointment that I ordered. I'm sorry to hear that it didn't cure your psoriasis. I may not need it. Since soaking my hands for 15 or 20 minutes in a pan of warm water with about a third or half package of Aveno bath treatment powder (which is great for removing the overgrowth and flaking skin) two nights ago and then two nights of putting a mixture of ozonated olive oil, Vaseline, and a small amount of Locoid ointment on my hands before going to bed, my hands are much better. They have a ways to go yet, but there is a big improvement. I've read many good comments about how great ozonated olive oil is for other things and I think it worked wonders for the paper cuts on my hands. A few times during the day I applied Cetaphil hand cream and dabbed my finger tips with the oil when they felt dry. I think Aveno helped a lot too.

pinballdoctor,

I'll look into getting the oregano oil extract drops and grape seed extract, and the antifungal spray really interests me. I'll order some if I can't find it locally. That's the one thing this city is really poor on, is a good health food/supplement store. I have used colloidal silver in my nebulizer several times...isn't that antifungal too?

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Thanks for the interesting article about Vitamin C. I read what you posted here and will click on the link to read the whole article tomorrow when I have more time.

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I'll look into getting the oregano oil extract drops and grape seed extract, and the antifungal spray really interests me. I'll order some if I can't find it locally. That's the one thing this city is really poor on, is a good health food/supplement store. I have used colloidal silver in my nebulizer several times...isn't that antifungal too?


Yes, colloidal silver is another good antifungal. However, most are between 5 and 10 ppm, which is too weak to do any real good. As a mouthwash it may kill bacteria, but won't do much against yeast/fungus. It needs to be much stronger, somewhere around 500 ppm.

I am curious if you ever tried inhaling eucalyptus vapors.
I just finished reading an article on eucalyptus oil and how it is antiviral, antibacterial, and antifungal.
The article suggests adding a few drops to hot bath water, and breathing in the vapours while you bathe, or by adding a few drops to some hot water in the sink, and inhaling the vapours while using the towel over the head method.

The article was written by a female MD from Vancouver B.C. She knows alot about this oil, and says it can be used for many ailments, however, it is very strong so it must be diluted in water, and cannot be used in the ears.
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My mother-in-law used to love eucalyptus and had it in vases in her house, but I think I'm alergic to it...the smell is pretty powerful. I'm very sensative to perfumes, scented candles, soaps and lotions with fragrance, whether natural or chemically made. I have used Dove unscented soap and Prell shampoo for more than 30 years. What I am also very bothered by is greasy cooking smoke from fried foods indoors, or food spilled and baked on the floor of the oven! If a restaurant is having trouble with the hood fan above the grill, I have to leave because I can't stop coughing. Maybe sometime I will try the eucalyptus, but I don't think it will be good in my case. I think Edgar Cayce prescribed it often.

Where would I find 500 ppm colloidal silver? That seems strong for the lungs. It would have to be very small micro-particles too. I know where I can buy 30 ppm, but not 500.
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go to www.herbalhealer.com for colloidal silver. You can use it in a nebulizer.

ozonated olive oil didn't help my P either.
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