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Lightbulb painfull Knees problem

I had for the last couple of years especially in the spring and summer


swelling of the knees and or just painful weakness is my knees.

I had 20 years ago a cross country ski accident and hurt my knees
in a violent fall. I think this is now coming to haunt me.

What can I do about it?

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Old 04-08-2010, 08:12 AM
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Since you spoke of a skiing accident 20 years ago I will assume you are in your forties or fifties. It is not uncommon for these kinds of things to come back to haunt us.
There are topical applications you can use. My favorite is Lobelia, Capsicum, Peppermint oils mixed 3-3-1 and applied with a roll on. If you go to the general discussion and look at a the posts regarding pain you will find some favorites of others.
It is interesting that you mention spring and summer. I have had several years where in March/April my feet would swell and become very painful. Last year I could hardly walk for a full month. The rest of the year no problems at all, but only in March/April. The Drs could not tell me anything except arthritis. But why only March/April?
So, I began to review my diet and try to figure out if I'm eating anything that would cause the problem...nothing! So, I thought, maybe I'm not looking far enough; maybe this is an accumulated problem. The only thing I could come up with is that, being an avid ice fisherman, I had for the previous three months or so had a fairly regular diet of panfish. Could this be the problem. Well, I don't know but it is now April 8. I have eaten no panfish since early December, and then just a little. So far, no foot swelling or pain. If this hold true I will know what the culprit is. I will have identified the element that has caused this condition for eight years!
My suggestion is that you investigate your diet and see if you can find what may trigger the problem. Avoid sugars and caffein. Avoid all white flower and dead food. Eat lots of greens, and omega 3 (fish oil preverably). Take some really good digestive enzymes.
These are just a few beginning suggestions. Hope you find it helpful.
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I had for the last couple of years especially in the spring and summer
swelling of the knees and or just painful weakness is my knees.
What can I do about it?
Hi diaroche, welcome! I'm not sure why you'd have more of an issue in spring and summer, unless that is usually the time of year, like most of us, that you start to be more active with garden chores, etc. Squatting and kneeling especially.

I would start taking Glucosamin Sulfate and Chondroitin supplements daily. MSM (Methyl Sulfonyl Methane) will also help with the pain and inflammation. As already recommended, Omega 3 fish oil is always a good addition to the diet for many things including joint health.

Sometimes the knees are affected with swelling from other muscle injuries in the leg, which should be addressed. Magnesium Oil applied topically is good for relieving tense, painful muscles. A Magnesium supplement is also recommended.
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Arthritis is a tricky thing as there are a number of different pathways metabolically that can create the inflammation, hence it sometimes takes a number of trials of different products before you hit on the one that will do the job for you. Unlike using Bextra or Vioxx or steriods which is the sledge hammer approach and turns out not so good for people's health, using herbs and supplements is much sublter. Each herb and supplement will offer a different line of approach.

I suggest that you go through the articles found on this page and from my personal experience I would give attention to the one that talks about CMO and the one about Serrapeptase.

http://www.healthsalon.org/category/arthritis/


I have had issues with arthritis in my knee, and at one point it was VERY bad. CMO got rid of it for me when I was thinking that I may never be able to walk normally again. . But another time I had what I thought was Psoric arthritis in a knee and serrapeptase got rid of it. It also got rid of a RA attack my neigbor had this year in her hands. There were very good cures as the products were used for a duration and then were left behind as all was well.
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Just got a new email from http://www.gln.net pertaining to Cetyl Myristate
or ? - CMO - Excellent article and perhaps a solution. They're great to deal with.
You might want to check it out.
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Just got a new email from http://www.gln.net pertaining to Cetyl Myristate
or ? - CMO - Excellent article and perhaps a solution. They're great to deal with.
You might want to check it out.
Earlybird, your GLN never seems to translate very well. Try http://www.globallight.net/
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My neighbor has been dealing with a very similar issue but his was caused by playing soft ball. That is a good read ^^
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Sorry 'bout that! Thanks for correcting the link, Jim.
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I'm bumping this thread up for Global Light Network website - Jim's link.

http://www.globallight.net They have some great products for pain. I've
gotten several for my daughter.

I'm going to call them today to order their Detoxified Iodine. - 6 bottles for
$16.00 each. The Iosol I've been using isn't keeping my thyroid gland up to
snuff. I never had that problem with Detoxified Iodine.
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This is what I have found that works. glucosamine sulfate with Cynatine FLX(TM) to support healthy cartilage. Glucosamine sulfate improve joint health, mobility, and flexibility. Cynatine FLX(TM) helps to calm joint tissues, minimize joint breakdown, and build joint resilience. It also activates two important joint antioxidants - glutathione peroxidase (GSH-PX) and superoxide dismutase (SOD). Also taking beta-carotene reduces risk of progression of joint problems, and Vitamin C is essential for the repair and maintenance of cartilage. Also taking Manganese, selenium, zinc, and copper. I know this sound like a ton of stuff but it is actually in one capsule. My brothers have taken it, one had carpel tunnel syndrome from construction and the other had a bad shoulder and back after years of extreme physical sports: rugby, football, basketball, volleyball, surfing, and has had back surgery. After 1 week they noticed reduce pain and increased mobility. After 5 weeks they felt no pain and have full range of mobility.
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dlaroche,

Hi, the dietary suggestions here are all good and you can't really go wrong with Glucosamin Sulfate, Chondroitin, and serrapeptase supplements. The Chinese have been in the "herbal formula business" for longer than even they can remember and so their formulas have been proven over many years.

Zheng Gu Shui liniment is widely available online, is easy to use, just rub it on the affected joint two or three times a day, plus it's dirt cheap.

Another thing that may help you that was not mentioned, is to exercise the legs, particularly the thighs and hamstrings because the stronger they are, the less stress that is taken up by the joints.

Good luck!
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Thanks for you concern and suggestions
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I have a different tack on Arthritis.

I think most often, it is caused by a pathogen of one sort or another. The problem is killing the pathogen, and there are several candidates.

One of the better ways to try eliminate the pathogens, is to use Low Dose Natrexone in an attempt to boost the immune system, so it can kill the pathogens. This will likely cause more discomfort until it has eliminated the pathogen or at least greatly reduced it.

I am speculating that the increased vitamin D from spring and summer sun exposure is already doing some of this. This slight immune system boost causes some bacterial die off which causes inflammation.

Lyme disease is notorious for showing up in an injured knee, but you should be having other symptoms if it were Lyme. If you want to test yourself for Lyme, just take some Cats Claw and see if you get Flu like symptoms from it. This is a tell tale Lyme Herx reaction.

Mycoplasma Pneumonia, Porphyromonas Gingivalis, and Chlamydia Pneumonia are all possible pathogens, and there are others as well.

How you wish to treat it largely depend on if you want to try to cure it, or curb the inflammation. It is difficult to cure, but many people here have some good suggestions on controlling the inflammation.

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