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Old 02-07-2010, 07:45 AM
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Hello,

I have been terribly ill for ten days now. I am very weak and losing weight. I have been experiencing waves of severe fever. I have had the on-call doctor out three times and each doctor has said that I have a virus, there is nothing they can do, and that I need to rest, drink plenty of fluids and try to eat. I haven't actually left my bed at all. My partner has been caring for me.

Two days ago I developed a very bad sinus infection, just to top it off! I have been prescribed antibiotics.

It has been two days since I last had a fever so I am hoping that I am on the mend. However, I am left with extreme exhaustion. I am worried I am going to develop M.E. This morning it was so bad I felt as I was going to die.

Can anyone suggest any alternative options for me? I am willing to try anything. I just want to be well again.

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Old 02-08-2010, 11:30 AM
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Take 2,000 IU per kg of body weight every day for a week.
This is called STOSS therapy and it is good for all kinds of upper respiratory tract infections.

Although BIOTECH do sell them direct they are actually cheaper from other online sources such as This example

I am about 150lbs so that = 300,000iu/daily or SIX x 50,000iu capsules every day for a week. This is ONLY a short term treatment. It should NOT be continued for longer than a week. Since I've had my 25(OH)D above 60ng/ml I've not had much chance to try this out. On 2 occasions I "thought" I may be coming down with infection and took one stoss therapy size dose but as the symptoms had totally disappeared the following day I didn't bother with the treatment so dropped down to my usual daily 5000iu/.

If you haven't been taking effective amounts of D3 up to now then it would be fine to continue for a week with the mega dosing. This will raise your 25(OH)D level and improve muscle strength and pain threshold.
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I agree with Ted, but you should add to that vitamin C, plain old ascorbic acid, no fancy forumula or product line. I trust Jarrow and you should be abe to find it in the healthfood store... not enough time to order on line.

Start with 4,000 mg then Take 2,000 mg every hour. IF you get loose bowels skip a dose then start again. I suspect you are severely difficient in this also. If you wake up in the middle of the night have some placed out ready to go also. Do not be concerned about these mega doses. This is real theraputic dosages. I suggest you purchase capsules as they are easier to take than tablets for most people.

Colloidal silver may also be called for. I would triple the dosage any bottle tells you to take or take the dosage they say but more frequently, till its trippled. You can get it in a health food store

Then get your friend to make homemade chicken soup, seriously.

With all this you should should be getting on your feet in a couple of days. Come back if you are not as you may have something more serious going on.
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Thanks very much for your advice.
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There's something really bad going around. I wonder how many people had the same virus I did. Several people I know have had it. Like a cold from hell. Bronchitis, sinus congestion that turned into a sinus infection and an ear infection (I never get those) and an eye infection. I coughed so much I burst blood vessels in my eyes. I felt very ill for a week but was sick for a total of 3, with the very ill week as the 2nd week. I took so many things but they didn't help, such as 20,000 mg of C a day, many thousands of IUs of D a day, silver, oregano, grapefruit extract, echinacea, goldenseal, garlic. Maybe I should have taken twice the amount I took! Is this similar to what you had?
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Old 03-05-2010, 05:45 PM
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This is probably going to sound elementary but sometimes it's best to start with the simplest things first. You probably know that the body uses various systems of elimination i.e. the bowels, the urinary tract, the respiratory tract and the skin. Many times viruses linger because the body is having trouble eliminating them. If, for instance, the intestinal tract is not eliminating properly symptoms will often appear in the respiratory tract. You didn't say if you were eliminating properly (one can understand why) but something to think about is doing an enema. Often times fevers can be broken very quickly by purging this way. Once that channel of elimination is opened up the body finds it much easier to rid itself of the virus and or bacteria. It would be interesting to hear if you've had a problem with elimination, sometimes even diarreah does not allow for proper elimination believe it or not. Also, are you having any skin issues?
I would use a natural enema product like garlic (which is a natural antibiotic). By the way, those antibiotics are not helpful for your intestinal tract! That's the best I can suggest at this point. Best to you!
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Many people over the years have reported that a coffee enema will open chest congestion, sinus stuff etc. Its not always just having the bowel moving but having the liver move.
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A virus is so very difficult to get rid of. I first reach for colloidal silver as Arrowwind suggested earlier.

Then I always make sure I have Pau'd Arco around; or find somewhere that I can get it quickly.


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Pau d'Arco is a natural herb retrieved from the inner bark of the Tabebuia Avellanedae or Tabebuia Impetiginosa, known as taheebo. The taheebo tree is grown predominantly in Central and South America, but may also be cultivated in southern Florida. Pau d'Arco, also known as ipe roxo or sometimes lapacho (its derivative), has been used for centuries by the Indio tribes of South America, as well as the ancient Incas and Aztecs.

Pau d'Arco tea or tincture concoctions have had beneficial effects for cancer victims, anywhere from alleviation of chemotherapy symptoms to complete remission of tumors. An article published by Dr. Daniel B. Mowrey on Pau d'Arco stated that "who Lapacho has produced clinical anti-cancer effects without side effects." This taheebo tea has been helpful to many.

Candida Albicans, a fungus which causes yeast infections, has also been treated by the Pau d'Arco herb. Clinical studies also showed strong in vitro activity against various other bacteria, fungi and yeast, including: Aspergillus, Staphylococcus aureus, Streptococcus, Helicobacter pylori (common cause of stomach ulcers), Bucella, tuberculosis, pneumonia, and dysentery.


Antiviral properties have been displayed in vitro by Pau d'Arco against viruses such as: herpes I and II, influenza, polio virus and vesicular stomatitis virus.

Pau d'Arco is also confirmed as being an antiparisitic against various parasites, including: malaria, schistosoma, and trypanosoma. Additionally, the herb has even demonstrated usefulness as an anti-inflammatory.

Pau d'Arco bark has active principles, mainly lapachol, quercetin and other flavonoids. Once the Pau d'Arco inner bark is dried and shredded it can be made into a tea which has a slight bitter or sour taste, and is brownish-colored. This herbal tea is used by many during the cold and flu season, and is a remedy for smoker's cough.

Another medicinal use of Pau d'Arco is as an expectorant: to promote "coughing up" by the lungs in order to free deeply embedded mucus and contaminates.

http://www.paudarco.org/

Pau d'Arco has been proved effective by its lapacho compound to some degree inactivating, slowing, inhibiting, killing or stunting viruses, including: herpes virus (herpes simplex), polio virus, vesicular stomatitis virus, avian myeloblastosis virus, rauscho murine leukemia virus, friend virus, rous sarcoma virus, human immunodeficiency virus (HIV, cause of AIDS), as well as others.

The N-factors and A-factors of Pau d'Arco's lapacho aid in inhibiting viruses. One such N-factor, beta-lapochone, actually inhibits the enzymes in virus cells which directly affect the synthesis of DNA and RNA. At that point, the virus is no longer able to take control over the reproductive processes of the cell, and therefore can neither replicate itself nor infect other cells. Such a characteristic is common in other substances being tested for qualities useful against AIDS and the Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV).

http://www.paudarco.org/virus.php

Pau d'Arco, when taken internally, can intensify the blood-thinning effect of various anticoagulant medications, which may cause excessive bleeding and other problems. Consult your doctor prior to using Pau d'Arco if you use any such medication or intend to do so. Side effects and interactions may be present with the following drugs, but are not limited to these: dalteparin sodium, enoxaparin sodium injection, and warfarin.

http://www.paudarco.org/cautions.php
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My entire family has had a cold for 6 days with congestion as the only symptom.

Would high doses of colloidal silver and vit D and C be good for a 3.5 year old?

We've been successfully doing nasal rinses with a netti pot but I think we need a little more help because 6 days is a long time.
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I used MMS for the Flu a week ago, but it should be used on the onset, or else the die off can be awful hard on the body.

Other than diarrhea, which is normal when a pathogen is being excreted, I only had six hours of Flu symptoms. I started out with eight drops to provoke it out of my body, as my wife had it the previous week, and missed three days of work. When I woke up the nest day, I had a fever diarrhea, and nausea. I then took a five drop dose followed up by a two drop dose ever hour or two. Symptoms disappeared within a couple of hours. I went out of town the next day, and only got a slight fever back when I quit taking MMS. It went away shortly after another dose.

I learned that for this Flu, I had to use MMS for two solid days to prevent a relapse. A couple of drops every one to two hours.

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First, almost all sinus infection is caused by fungus, according to the Mayo clinic.

Antibiotics won't kill fungus, however, it will kill the good bacteria in the gut, which can lead to severe health problems..

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Can anyone suggest any alternative options for me? I am willing to try anything. I just want to be well again.
Colloidal silver.

Take a couple ounces per day til you're feeling better, then take a tablespoon per day to help your immune system/maintenance dose.

The key is in prevention.

Colloidal silver prevents illness.
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Old 02-12-2011, 01:55 AM
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Your body/immune system is exhausted through the stress and strain of fighting off the virus. Factor in lack of sleep, lack of food/nutrition etc.

Basically, you're suffering from chronic malnutrition. You need to take a high potency multivitamin/mineral (full B complex) and high protein meals to get your strength back and restore balance. Some gentle walks in the sunshine will do the power of good too.
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Old 02-12-2011, 01:57 AM
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PS: If the virus is still lingering and the silver has failed, grapefruit seed extract (take through a straw) is worth a try. Powerful stuff.
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