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Old 03-11-2010, 11:09 AM
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I'm still waiting for an answer about MMS2... Do we take it on an empty stomach or not?
The answer I got back to the same question was only that MMS2 is taken with "lots of water".

My take on this, then, is that it can be taken with or without food, as long as it is taken with LOTS of water.

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Old 03-11-2010, 12:25 PM
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Alright, took the plunge and got everything I needed to take MMS2.

• Calcium Hypochlorite 75% (HTH Brand) fine grain
• Empty gelatine capsules size "0"

I filled 25 capsules full to the rim and capped it with the short end.
Took one on an empty stomach with 2 full glasses of fresh filtered water. After 10min I started to feel it working. It got pretty intense (I never have heart burn). I took another full glass of water and it calmed down rapidly.
30 min later, I had no sensations whatsoever.
I burped 3 times in one hour.
So for a first experience, it went very well.
I plan on taking 1/day minimum and work myself up to 2-3 etc.
I'm taking the MMS2 for an overgrowth of yeast in my colon.
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Old 03-11-2010, 01:30 PM
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Thanks, I can appreciate that. Now that I'm feeling more comfortable with the Ca(OH)2, on to the generation of chlorine. What happens when you put Calcium Hypochlorite in HCL? Forget that you just drank two glasses of water, I guess the question is what happens in either of the following (I don't remember my chemistry very well, it's been a while).

Calcium Hypochlorite + HCL -> ?

Hypochlorous Acid + Calcium Hydroxide + HCL -> ?

One of these two equations has to happen if not both since all reactions have some level of equilibrium.
I don't understand.

Why are you putting Calcium Hypochlorite (MMS2) in HCL which is HYDROCHLORIC ACID?????

Or were you thinking that HCL is Chlorine (CL)?

If that is so, I assume you mean adding it to the CHLORINE DIOXIDE (CLO2) (from the MMS1 in the stomach) which is NOT the same as Chlorine (CL).

I am new to MMS1 & MMS2 but this is how I understand them so far, from all of his writings & videos:

Chlorine Dioxide (MMS1) consists of the type of harmless chlorine that is in table salt & oxygen. Taken from Jim Humble's article, "MMS Introduction", at http://jimhumble.biz/biz-mmsintro.htm.

DANGER of CHLORINE
Jim does make note of this on p.6 (in red) of his article, "Understanding MMS", at http://jimhumble.biz/biz-brochure.pdf when he states: "Chlorine can leave dangerous chemicals in your body or swimming pool or purification system".

NOTE: the danger or safety of a chemical is different when used outside of the body than when ingested into the stomach.

So why then is Chlorine used in swimming pools & purification systems?
According to Jim, it is not actually Chlorine that is used, but is, in fact, a special agent, that is used to 'shock' the pool, called CALCIUM HYPOCHLORITE.


This is taken from the part of his article, "Introducing Miracle Mineral Solution Two", http://jimhumble.biz/biz-mms2intro-eng.htm, that I have included here.
"OK, so what is MMS2? What chemical turns to hypochlorous acid in the body? Hold on to your hat. It’s a special type of swimming ----- pool ----- chlorine. Well, that's what everybody calls it - swimming pool chlorine. BUT it is really not chlorine. It's a special agent that is used to "shock" the pool, called CALCIUM HYPOCHLORITE.

People are used to being told that you shock a pool with chlorine, but that's not really the scientific facts. It's easy to explain this way. The scientific facts are that no free chlorine is added to the pool. The pool is in fact shocked with hypochlorous acid. A pouch of 78% calcium hypochlorite (about one pound) costs less than $5 dollars in the US. You can buy it at any swimming pool supply store, but not just any pool chlorine. It has to be calcium hypochlorite.

That’s right, when it is put into pool water it instantly changes into hypochlorous acid. It’s not the same as chlorine in water. Not at all. Other chemicals change into chlorine, but not calcium hypochlorite. It changes into HOCl (that’s the chemical formula for hypochlorous acid). It is a combination of hydrogen, oxygen, and chlorine. Like table salt it also has chlorine in it, but it reacts far differently than chlorine. MMS1 and MMS2 are made from two of the cheapest mineral substances that we have. MMS1 will cure malaria, the worst disease of mankind, in about 10 hours and for less than 5 cents. MMS2 is similar in cost if not cheaper."
Jim's book "BREAKTHROUGH" Parts 1 & 2
If interested, you can Email me for these, as they were too big to attach here. In part one he has a list of links to web pages that provide the current educational information which he updates regularly.


NOTE: after this book was published, it became prudent to avoid use of the word “Supplement” seen in the title of the book. Subsequently, Jim has changed later titles to use the word “Solution” in place of “Supplement”.


Sorry this is such a long reply!


Hopefully this has helped clarify things for you.


Jim has researched all of this extensively so that if he talks about using one or both of them at the same time, I think we can be assured that it is safe to do so.


However, you can email him if you have further questions at JIM@MMS2b.com.

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Old 03-11-2010, 01:45 PM
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Thanks, I can appreciate that. Now that I'm feeling more comfortable with the Ca(OH)2, on to the generation of chlorine. What happens when you put Calcium Hypochlorite in HCL? Forget that you just drank two glasses of water, I guess the question is what happens in either of the following (I don't remember my chemistry very well, it's been a while).

Calcium Hypochlorite + HCL -> ?

Hypochlorous Acid + Calcium Hydroxide + HCL -> ?

One of these two equations has to happen if not both since all reactions have some level of equilibrium.
Re: Calcium Hydroxide

I forgot to mention that I haven't come across Calcium Hydroxide in any of Jim Humble's MMS1 or MMS2 writings. Could you be mistaken about it in this context?

Hypochlorus Acid is what MMS2 (calcium hypochlorite) turns into in the stomach when it comes in contact with the lots of water that has been taken with it.

VERY IMPORTANT!!!
MMS2 MUST be taken in capsule form. If mixed with water (outside the body) it is CAUSTIC. Mixed with water inside the stomach it is ok.

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Old 03-11-2010, 01:49 PM
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Dear Karl Karl.
Thank you very much about your information from MMS2.
I have used MMS1 several Months and My prostate cancer is well.
P.S.A was 0.5 only.
Now I am also willing to try MMS2. And I have bought in my country CALCIUM HYPOCHLORITE 1 kg tin. granular for water cleansing.
CALCIUM HYPOCHLORITE content is 50-100 %.
How can I know if it is similar CALCIUM HYPOCHLORITE what you have using there in U.S.A
Calcium Hypochlorite is the actual chemical, so it is the same wherever you buy it.

As I understand it, the higher the content percentage, the better.

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Old 03-11-2010, 01:53 PM
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Hi

I just bought Calcium Hypochlorite and started using yesterday. After 3 doses I noticed I was using a hydrated form. Does anyone know if this is ok? It is granular and has the same chlorine smell, I had no ill effects but stopped using until I get some confirmation.

Dave
I would say that if it is Calcium Hypochlorite in granular form, that it is the right thing.

You might want to just ask the sales person if 'hydrated' is the only way it is made & if not, what the difference is.

My guess would be that this is how it is made, period, but if there is another way (non-hydrated), I would email Jim & ask him.

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I have seen a lot of comments on site referring to MMS2 when it’s really MMS1 and putting it in capsules. I thought MMS2 is a separate product altogether? Could anyone clarify that for me?
MMS1 (Chlorine Dioxide) used to be called 'MMS'.

But when MMS2 (Calcium Hypoclorite) came along, MMS was changed to MMS1.

They are two DIFFERENT (water purification) chemicals.

MMS1 - is usually taken in liquid form after being activated & then mixed with water or a non-vitamin-C juice BUT for taste reasons, it can be put into a capsule immediately before taking by mouth. See artticle here
http://jimhumble.biz/biz-capsules.htm

MMS2 - on the other hand, MUST be taken in capsule form as it is caustic mixed with water outside the body. It IS ok, however, when it is mixed with water in the stomach.

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Old 03-11-2010, 02:15 PM
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hello i read your post thanks it helped alot, i was wondering if a product called blast for pools would work.
BLAST sounds like the name brand of the product.

What matters is what the ingredients are.

MMS2 is Calcium Hypoclorite, used for pools & other water purification. The higher the content percentage the better, ie. 28% or 60% etc.

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Old 03-11-2010, 02:15 PM
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Followup on my previous post.

Just took my 2nd dose after waiting 2.5 hours.
This time I took it after having eaten a sandwich 45 min earlier.
The results are much different. Very minimal sensation
in stomach compared to empty stomach. No burping to talk about.
This is how I will take it from now on.
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Old 03-11-2010, 02:28 PM
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Exclamation DO NOT Take VITAMIN C With MMS1

Do NOT take VITAMIN C 2hrs before taking MMS1 or with the MMS1, or 2hrs after taking MMS1.

Although MMS1 is activated with the appropriate number of drops of citric acid, lemon juice or vinegar, it MUST NOT be mixed with any liquid containing VITAMIN C when you add the drinking liquid after the 3min activation.

Nor must VITAMIN C be taken 2hrs before or after taking MMS1.

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Old 03-16-2010, 08:40 AM
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Hi, I also made some MMS2. It is calcium hypochorite.....75%. Here is the method I use to fill the size "0" capsules, I took a piece of board 8" to 10" long x 1/2" thick and drilled 10 holes in it. I used a drill bit just a little wider than the width of the capsule.
I poured some of the calcium hypochlorite in a glass baking dish along with the piece of drilled wood. I then placed the larger part of the capsule into the holes - used a spoon to fill the ten capsules and then closed the capsule. If you look at the photo on Jim's website you will see that it looks like what he did.

Note: My product is white like in the MMS2 picture and not blue like yours.
(I live in Canada and the product is called HTH EXTRA Super Shock for swimming pools made by Arch Chemicals, inc., 501 Merrit 7, p.o. box 5204, Norwalk, CT 06856-5204, USA. Also Arch Chemicals in Mississauga Ont.
I have been taking 3 capsules/day and no ill effects.
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Hello. I was diagnosed with HIV/AIDS several years ago. I started taking MMS1 in late September 2009. I initially used the originally protocol building up to 15 drops very shortly (three weeks) before changing to 9 drops every hour for 8 hours and then in January 2010 reducing it to 3 drops every hour for 8 hours. On Feb. 21, 2010 I've added MMS2 (65%-70%) in 0 size capsules. I am on entering my 3rd week with MMS2. It is a real challenge to take both together and have a life. MMS2 is real easy, I only take it 4-5 times a day with 2-3 classes of water to avoid the burbing. MMS1, I usually drink without food to avoid burbing as well. I consume my mega vitamins at night with dinner to avoid introduction of Vitamin C. This also means I don't eat fruits, or vegetables that contain Vit. C unless evening as well or two hours after my last MMS1 dose. I was buying MMS 1:1 from the internet at $30 plus delivery cost; this is way too expensive in contrast to making it for less than $1.00 per 4 ounce bottle. I put my MMS2 in 0 size capsule for less than 40 cents a capsule compared to $1.50 a capsule sold by vendors. I have yet to see or read any definitive evidence regarding resolving HIV/AIDS to a curative state. Should I get cured, I will gladly report this and tell all of my friends of my experience.
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Thank you so much for reporting back here. What's really nice is that your post is well detailed and complete.
Did you get tested recently and are you taking the cocktail at the same time?
Can't wait to hear how it all goes for you. ;-)
Please keep us posted!
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I am taking "the cocktails" medications and fortunately my viral load has non-detectable for years. I am trying to eradicate, of course, not minimize the HIV. I will get my blood tested soon after the third week of MMS2 and MMS1 combination. The T Cell count is for the healthy cells. The viral load is for the infected cells. If this is a powerful and effective anti-oxidant, my T cell counts should be dramatically higher, as the treat agent (virus) has been removed. I don't see anyway else on this site where anyone was allegedly cures of their ailments. Please correct me if I am in error.

The reason why I got started on this was because a friend told me that his chiropractor was cured of a rare and typically incurable skin cancer. He used the old regiment of (up to) 16 drops per hour. Just so happens he has the same skin cancer so I am waiting for his results.
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dougG,

we have this link for testimonials. Many never make it to this thread and just get lost in other threads.

When you are ready feel free to post your story. Also invite friends to write up their story and post. How are people going to know the possibilites unless we tell each other?

To find the thread in the future just put MMS testimonials in the forum search.

http://www.natmedtalk.com/showthread.php?t=2115
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