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Old 07-29-2009, 08:39 PM
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http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=6347.4807.0.0



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Whats the betting that the new world currency will be available just in time for the cashless society and injectable microchip which according to this MSNBC video will be 2017.

http://bestvideoabout.com/microchip/by2017/
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I am not Mormon but I talk with Mormons frequently. There is a prophecy that some of them are distributing that says some very scary things.

Essentially it says that the church has sold out to new world order interests.

It says that in Camp Williams in Utah is now housing soldiers that are being trained to search and seize weapons from people's homes... these soldiers have been imported from the Orient, China if I recall correctly.

There is prediction of cataclysmic earth quakes that will put Salt Lake under water for a week or two after which another earth quake will cause the water to drain off. all this water is coming from an underground river that runs from the North Pole down to and along the Wasatch front. This is a geological fact I think and one branch of it was recently discovered to move towards Nevada, it branches somewhere near Hot Springs Idaho.

So anyway. for the survivors, the church will ask them to bring in all their stored food for redistribution amongst the whole remaining population, which will be much smaller.

In order to get some food back after these faithful and trusting Mormons comply, they will be required to get microchiped. The prophecy pleads the people not to bring their food when requested to do so and that all must stand up against microchipping. If they don't they will loose their freedom and the ability for their soul to progress.

The warning the prophecy gives is that when a quake happens that is over 5 on the richter scale leave Salt Lake immediately, for in the next day or two a much bigger one will come that will do the damage.

A few days after this prophecy was given to me I was listening to NPR radio (about 1 month ago now) and they had a report about a huge multi billion dollar facility to be built at Camp Williams soon. It is to be an information technology center with advanced computers.... now what could that be for? perhaps to keep track of all the microchips?

Since I don't have computer access to this prophecy I am thinking of typing it up one of these days so it will be easier to pass along.

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That's hilarious, Arrow. There are lots of doomsday prophecies, have you heard of the 2012 doomsday? None of them makes any sense.

Back to the currency topic, probably every currency is now looking bad, it's in economic crisis after all. I hope dollar gets stronger, it's in my interest.
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Certainly in mine also. The thought of the bond market collapsing because no foreign nation is confident enough in us is still pretty scary, especially with what China has been saying.

I am fairly well versed in the 2012 thing, having contemplated it for about 15 years now and from a variety of angles and through the lenses of several religions, including Hindu, Buddhist, Hopi, Navajo, as well as Mayan. It is very much talked about here in the US as it springs out of our indigenous cultures of the Americas and many tribes in the North America have accepted it as a great possibility. Having studied Hopi Prophecy the 2012 thing fits right in with what they have been saying for hundreds of years.

Many people are quite concerned and some do think is may be the end times, but any good Native American knows that end time is an illusion.... life will always go on and the creator will always create. More than end times as in end of the world it is more like an end of a way of being that is anticipated. An evolution of consciousness is anticipated which will alter entirely our culture and since you cannot alter culture in just one nation anymore, it will be in all nations on a world level. But there is much prophecy of earth changes, so it might do one well to consider that possibility. I certainly am... after all earth changes are happening quite frequently. One would be a fool to think that it is outside of their own personal possibility. My friend missed being in the flood in Puket, Thailand by only a couple of hours.

If you understood the Mayan science of astronomy it may make more sense and this site will bring some of what people over here and in Europe are thinking.

http://www.greatdreams.com/2012.htm

This was of particular interest to me from the above site:


HIGHLIGHTS OF THE ASTROLOGICAL CHART
The Sun is at 0 degrees Capricorn, the point of the December solstice. It makes a sextile to Neptune, right at the beginning of Pisces. This is an almost exact sextile. The orb is less then half a degree. This aspect can point towards a spiritual experience, a loss or both.

The most important configuration is a yod which we find in the chart. This is also called the Finger of God. It looks like an arrow in the chart and it indicates change and transformations. .

The yod consists of:
1. A quincunx (150 degree aspect) between Jupiter and Pluto.

2. A quincunx between Jupiter and Saturn.

3. A central opposition (180 degree aspect) made between Jupiter and the Mercury/Venus conjunction.

The two quincunxes are almost exact, they have an orb of less then half a degree. In fact the quincunx between Jupiter and Pluto is exact at December 21 2012.

THE MEANING OF THE ASTROLOGICAL CHART

Pluto is the planet of radical transformation, death and rebirth.

Saturn is the planet of the earthly realm and of learning experiences, especially those of a more painful nature.

Jupiter is the planet of expansion. It is the focus of the yod, the planet which receives the strong energy of the other planets involved. It also expands the energy of the other planets involved (especially Saturn and Pluto).
This yod indicates transformational processes which can be painful for many.

Jupiter has a central place in this because it is the focal point of the energy. This indicates changes in our religious systems, beliefs, philosophical systems. These fall under Jupiter.

Another notable configuration is the T-square with Neptune as focal point:
Jupiter makes a square (90 degree aspect) to Neptune.
Neptune makes a square to Venus.
Venus opposes Jupiter, this is the central opposition that activates the yod.
Therefore Neptune, the planet of spirituality, ascension, confusion and floods is a cruxial planet in this chart.

Is it possible to find out more details about the picture given above? Maybe we can use another astrological method to find out more about what the above chart indicates?

THE CHINESE FOUR PILLAR CHART OR THE STORY OF THE TWO DRAGONS

I have made a Chinese Four Pillar Chart. This type of chart contains of four pillars that are dependend upon the hour, day, month and year. Because the hourly pillar depends upon the location I have confined myself to the pillars of the day, month and year. These are the same for the entire world.
In the roots of the chart (the lower part of the pillars) we find a rat that is surrounded by two dragons. The dragons almost seems to be making plans to eat the rat.

The dragon represents the ouroboros, the mythological dragon or snake that bites its own tail. According to Mayan cosmology this ouroboros symbolises the Milky Way.

The dragon is an earthly sign, the rat is a water sign. Therefore this chart contains water and earth.

In the stems (the top of the chart) we find yang fire. This is the strong fire of the Sun or a natural fire.

In this chart water is the strongest element. It can be found in the rat and in the two Yang Waters.

A meteorite falling in the ocean would be one expression of this chart. Or a vulcan (fire and earth) exploding and causing a tsunami (water). It could also indicate floods. Water and Earth the strongest elements of this charts are enemies to one another. Since Water is more powerful in the chart, this may indicate largescale floods. Therefore of all the events possible large scale floods are the most likely.

This is confirmed by the Western chart in which Neptune plays a crucial role.

In my opinion what this chart indicates is that the polluted energy of the collective unconsciousness will turn against humanity. Whatever happens, it will be an expression of the energy that is radiated by a humanity that is unable to live in peace and to make the right choices (for peace, welfare, health and inner spirituality).

CHINESE FOUR PILLAR CHART DECEMBER 21 2012 (DAY PILLAR, MONTH PILLAR AND YEAR PILLAR ARE NOT DEPENDENT UPON THE LOCATION) (The hour pillar not included as it is different from place to place)
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Many people are quite concerned and some do think is may be the end times, but any good Native American knows that end time is an illusion.... life will always go on and the creator will always create. More than end times as in end of the world it is more like an end of a way of being that is anticipated.


Many people are confused when Christians talk about the 'End Times'.

Jesus talked many times about 'This present age' and that is what will come to an end on his return. It doesn't mean the earth will come to end.

It means there will be an end to the reign of what Jesus called the God of this World, Satan, and the beginning of a transformed earth which he will reign over for a 1,000 years with those he has saved.


Jesus promised on the Sermon on the Mount 'The Meek shall inherit the earth'.
The question everybody on earth has to ask themselves is am I going to among them?


The next few years are going to be the most climatic and earth shattering in the history of the world. Jesus called this period ' The Great Tribulation'.

Things are never going to be the same although there will be periods when people think there is going to be a lasting peace.

During this Great Tribulation the Bible predicts that a World Government will come to power, with a World currency, a World Religion and a World leader heading this world government.

This world leader eventually declares himself to be God and demands the worship of the whole world, enforcing this by the infamous Mark of the Beast without which you will not be able to buy and sell.

Anybody who takes this Mark will dwell in hell eternally because they are really worshipping the AntiChrist. There will be no fence sitters when this Mark is enforced, you may have to starve to death or be rounded up and executed if you refuse the Mark.

During this Great Tribulation it may well seem the world is coming to an end but its not. Its just going to be the greatest test mankind has ever had.

Jesus likened this period prior to his return, as similar to a woman undergoing childbirth.

At first the birthpangs are small and far apart but as the birth draws near the birthpangs increase in fequency and intensity until the greatest trauma is just before the birth. After the birth the joy of the new arrival crowds out the memories of the pain.

Thats what we are in for folks.

I think I am going to have to write a blog on this(when I get the time).
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The dollar has gained some ground back against our Pound Sterling though. I wish it were still at about £1 = $2 so I could do me some cheap shopping online!
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Whatever the situation turns out to be, there sure are alot of ads on TV/Radio
asking for people to turn in their gold jewelry etc for cash - NOW! Evidently they
are planning on making a killing when/if gold goes to the moon. I assume they plan
on taking it with them. LOL!
Personally, I don't put much stock in all these Doomsday predictions. However, I
do believe we will be seeing much chaos due to the economy collapse fallout, much
higher prices for everything due to sky-high gas prices, etc.
T'aint gonna be pretty!
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Whatever the situation turns out to be, there sure are alot of ads on TV/Radio
asking for people to turn in their gold jewelry etc for cash - NOW! Evidently they are planning on making a killing when/if gold goes to the moon. I assume they plan on taking it with them. LOL!
recent predictions is that silver will go to about 300 an ounce and gold over $3,000. This could happen as soon as the US dollar hits rock bottom. Believe it was Lindsey Williams who said this...can't quite remember for sure.
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