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Old 05-07-2008, 12:58 PM
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Can this help someone who doesn't know why their liver count is high? IF so, how much to take?
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Old 05-08-2008, 04:27 AM
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My friend has a very bizarre liver condition. The doctors do not know what is wrong with her and its been going on for several years. The MMS gives her energy and Transfer Factor has made her almost fully well.

You will have to learn the instructions for taking MMS. Always start with one drop and move up to as high as 15 as tolerated. My friend with liver issues never got past 3 drops.
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what did they call her liver condition?

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They did not have a name for it. Very complex autoimmune factors are disrupted. I checked with her recently. She is finding better results from Transfer Factor than MMS. She has never been able to advance over 3 drops.
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Hi. May I ask...

What is Transfer Factor? and what does it do for the liver?

Do you know if it is helpful with Hep C?

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Old 06-03-2008, 07:13 AM
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How are you doing! We haven't heard from you in a while. Do you have any news on the MMS front? Have you managed to get through a protocol?

Transfer facter helps the immune system in gernernal more than specifically the liver.
You can read about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_factor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7Yw-vLV4B8
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/tf.htm
http://www.prohealth.com/library/sho...sfer%20factor/


It may possibly be beneficial for you. There are similar products, as I said above, that are good too. If I were seriously ill I would start with Transfer Factor for at least 4 months then try to substitute in a less costly product. Some say there is no substitute for transfer factor. I do not agree. I have seen the other products work, but alas, I have not seen them in action for extremely serious disease, so due to this, I would choose Transfer Factor first, and see how it goes.

My friend with liver disease was on it several months before she realized was making her stronger so you have to give it time. My understanding is that quite a few people with hep c use it.
I don't know where she gets hers but this is the product she uses.
http://www.shapefast.com/trfain1.html

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Old 06-04-2008, 01:21 AM
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How are you doing! We haven't heard from you in a while. Do you have any news on the MMS front? Have you managed to get through a protocol?
I got up to 15drops but only for a couple of days... then I started to drop down, and down, due to nausea. I went back down to 6 drops 2 (sometimes 3) X a day... figured that was better than nothing. I later developed some intense pain in my abdomen I have had some tests (blood, CAT scan, urine) and so far the Dr has no clue. I am now testing for parasites and amebas (had been in Egypt recently) and will get results next week. Since this pain has been present for many weeks now, I decided to stop the MMS protocol for the time being until something is figured out, and/or the pain goes.

I am also having my blood tests for liver enzymes and full liver workup, and I will meet my liver Dr. on the 18th. I am very interested to see what, if any, changes show up on these tests, and to see if the MMS treatment I have done has had any effect on ALT, AST and all.

Thank you for all the info on the Transfer Factor.
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So, it turns out that I have Entamoeba coli. The Dr. has prescribed Metronidazol 500mg 2 x a day for 7 days.

I had a concern that the MMS treatment was contributing to the pain in my abdomen. I am relieved to know that that was not the case.

I would have thought, however, that the MMS would have destroyed the amoeba as I was taking it while I was in Egypt and for 2 weeks after I returned...???

If you have any info/links about the Entamoeba Coli, that would be helpful. I usually would not take antibiotics, but the pain has been so intense at times that I felt I had/have to try. I read that it would be a good idea to take a probiotic while taking antibiotics. I am also eating raw organic pumpkin seeds. Any other advice welcomed.

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Hmm... Fagyl. This is a nasty drug and can cause nausea and dizziness, which are common side effect (toxic) symptoms. More common than uncommon and I have seen people go through incredible illness from the use of the drug just to kill the pathogen they are after. But the docs tell you to just keep up with it anyway.

I have treated a microbe called giardia successfully with Grapefruit seed extract and oil of oregano placed in drops into capsules. Now giardia is considered a nasty one and is generally treated with metronidazol also. There is a alty physician who prescribes this treatement a few towns north of me as it is fairly common to folks who hike in our mountains and are stupid enough to drink the mountain creek water. I have the protocol somewhere and will post it.

I just can't say enough for Grapefruit seed extract for this kind of issue. I carry it with me to Mexico for many years know. If it were me I would try this first.

I suspect that the MMS did not deal with it so well because the microbe is all mixed in the stool and most of the mms enters the body in the stomach and upper GI. It will kill pathogens lodged in the intestinal walls.

you will want to read this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entamoeba_coli

You will also want to take Lugols iodine 10 drops in water 3 x day for 10 days
One medicine used for this condition is iodoquinol, which has the base molecule of iodine.

To make the GSE/oregano oil caps:
3 drops oregano oil and 6 drops GSE in a capsule 3x day for 3 weeks (this is least expensive way)

or you can just put the oregano oil in the caps and take GSE caplets, (nutribiotic brand, you can get it at www.Iherb.com) 1 cap three times a day and this is how I would do it.[ Three weeks of treatment is essential. We are not using a high powered toxic drug. We want to cover the life cyce of the parasite... so three weeks usually does it for ameoba things.

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Thank you arrowwind for the post and the great information!

I am not at all excited about taking antibiotics but
I am on day three now and wonder if stopping is a good idea...
Do you think it is wise to stop these and start with the GSE and Oregano Oil now?

Or can I add these while taking the antibiotics?

Also, does the Oregano Oil have to be in capsules? Why is this?


side note... I just read on Lloyd Wright's site that taking antibiotics can increase the viral load...
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Do not take antibiotics, most will raise the viral load. Amoxicillin can raise the viral load 10 million points with as few as 3 capsules. Many people who have not developed symptoms from hepatitis c even after 30 years who are given antibiotics rapidly develop symptoms and go down hill from there.
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I wish I felt confident in answering your question about stopping the med.

I do know that if it were me I would stop but there may be some kind of risk. I always think, what if the microbe did not respond to the alternative medicine. What if stopping resulted in a stronger microbe against the chosen drug that stopped.

I have stopped antibiotics before in midstream and have not been regretful.

Oregano oil is very very potent. Taking it at this dosage.. capsules is the only way.

I am convinced that antibioitcs can save a life but it compromises so many other things and creates problems further down the road. Its a trade out.

Do what you feel safe in doing. Take risks you feel comfortable with. There are risks in continuing and risks in stopping. All risks do not always pan out.

Alternative medicine, in our confusing world is not for the faint of heart, nor for those who do not do their homework.
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Hi everyone! I just wanted add comment to viewfromhere’s thread.

viewfromhere wrote:<<side note... I just read on Lloyd Wright's site that taking antibiotics can increase the viral load...
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Do not take antibiotics, most will raise the viral load. Amoxicillin can raise the viral load 10 million points with as few as 3 capsules. Many people who have not developed symptoms from hepatitis c even after 30 years who are given antibiotics rapidly develop symptoms and go down hill from there.
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The Lloyd Wright’s observation, virewfromhere quoted is very very true. This is exactly what happened to me. I’ve been symptom free for so many years( 20 yrs?) until I had to do a surgery in March 2008. The pain killer drugs and antibiotics injection, and additional antibiotic pills after the surgery triggered my Hep.C and worsened the condition thereafter. Be careful people with this disease, take no drugs especially antibiotics!


Although it is good to find that I had hep.C , so scary is what conventional medicine does to human body.


Thanks God, I'm doing much better now by taking MMS , healthy diets, and drinking a lots of water daily.


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Hi
I was diagnosed with giardia, amoeba and candida after 8 mnths trying to find out what was wrong through medical tests.By this time I was severely impacted.
Was reading the threads and wanted to tell you my experience.
I notice during that time, that the only thing that helped was grapefruit seed extract. Does it work better in capsules? I have difficulty taking capsules.
I still continued to worsen after taking 21 drops of gse extract 2-3 times a day.

Eventually I had a live blood test and found what was wrong and had some homeopathics and other things such as probiotics and nutrition.
It is 18 months later since I first had symptoms and I have improved but still have strong symptoms.
I took mms drops last week, 9-10 drops 3 times a day for five days.( only with stevia).
The symptoms improved but a couple of days after I stopped it they came back.
Do I need to take the mms drops for 3 weeks?
Is that the life cycle (eggs) of the parasites?
Do you think I need the oregano oil and gse as well?
If so is there any way I can take it without capsules?
thankyou so much for your help
I am at my wits end!
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GSE also comes in tablets... can you take tablets better than capsules? A tablet could be crushed and put into applesauce or ice cream or something. I would not say that GSE works better in a pill form but people go to that due to the dosage that they need and the terrible taste of it..

I suggest a very high powered probiotic for you called VSL#3. Do a search and you will find it. You may need to be on this for a long time. It comes in two forms.. a packet that has 450 billion live bacteria... or a pill that is 225 billion.

Oregano oil tastes worse than GSE. They do make some products that have a fairly small gel cap and if you take that with applesauce or something it may go down easier for you.


Regarding mms, the newest protocol is to take smaller dosages 5 or 6 times a day.. and yes, for you you may need it for more than 3 weeks..

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Hi Arrowwind
Thankyou immensely for your help with this issue.
Certainly I can crush gse tablets, but im ok with the drops in stevia
What dosage do you suggest and for how much longer with the mms drops separately of course!?
I will take the probiotics you suggested and the oregano gel caps.
(Im not a first year student, that came up by default)
thanks again
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