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Old 09-17-2017, 02:51 PM
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Default I'm Seeking a Supplement Regime to Improve My ADHD Focus from Someone with ADHD

I've got Aspergers, as well as ADD/ADHD. I'm thirty-eight years young, plus possessor of Medicare/Medicaid, which obviously limits my options, but causes me to come here, for cheap, plentiful--and hopefully effective--advice, especially as concerns naturopathy--and other treatments aimed at alleviating my ADD, plus dissociation, specifically emotional numbness.

More to the point, I'm trying to see if I can cure my main ADD/ADHD issue via supplement, which is my lack of mental concentration; I can't seem to focus more than three hours at a time, and I have a horrendous time shifting gears. I do a lot of body rocking, and have so all my life, but I really wish I could focus ten hours straight, on a task, but am open to see it is a reflection of a chemical imbalance.

Also, I'm trying to find help for emotional numbness, which I've had for over ten years, be it in therapy (primarily) or otherwise.

I'd try to talk to a nonsalesman naturopath about how to address these symptoms, but I can't afford a naturopath; even their reduced rates are exorbitant, and Medicare/Medicaid doesn't cover naturopathy. As a result, though, I've gone online, seeking wise counsel over the following things, 'n more.

Key supplements considered for ADD 'n concentration:
Magnesium
B12

Key depression treatments I'm considering:
lithium (orotate)
Ketamine

Key mental health therapies:
Cimbs
Brain
Brainspottting



Already tried:
A whole lotta serotonin drugs.
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Old 10-16-2017, 03:51 AM
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there are 2 people that you might want to research one is Yuri Nikolayev and the other Abram Hoffer,
yuri used fasting for 25 days with a cure rate of 70% for scitzophrenia and Hoffer used nutritional therapy over the course of several months for an 80% cure rate in all brain disorders.

I think most brain disorders are toxin build up in the brain and then secondly abuse which alters the pathways in the brain,

one essential thing is to remove any mercury fillings you might have, the easiest way to do this is fast which after about 2 weeks will start to melt the mercury out of your teeth if you are going to fast you should take chlorella for 2 weeks before you begin to fast in order to remove heavy metals out of your body about 10-15 grams a day. and do not use spirulina which can be toxic.

you should not use serotonin boosters you should use l -tryptophan instead this allows the body to make the serotonin as and when it needs it instead of providing a continual supply which normally leads to serotonin syndrome, HTP is also a no no as this causes serotonin syndrome.

molybdenum is another handy nutrient for adhd but to get genuine nutrition you would need to eat real food which can only be got from fruit that you pick yourself,
no fertilisers pesticides or hybridised fruit and veggies
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Old 10-16-2017, 04:50 PM
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That is worth researching; I will look into that. How to figure out if I have them? Also, I'm on a low-income budget, so that is part of it. I don't wanna spend a lotta time, either. but this is a good start, in any event; thank you.

In any case, after I straighten my diet out, I think I'll be ready for supplements, because I've limited funds, and I feel better, off gluten, in any event, but it could be I just am eating better, in general, more nuts, salad, etc.
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I was poisoned by toxic fumes at a job. I have tried all kinds of diets and supplements trying to fix myself. The primary objective is to eat high energy living foods. This raises the energy of all electrons in the body. Pasteurized conventionally grown orange juice is low energy dead food. Raw organic orange is high energy living food. Cooked conventional egg is low energy dead food. Raw pastured egg is high energy living food. I eat raw organic fruit, raw wildflower honey, and raw organic whole cane sugar for carbs. I eat raw pastured eggs, raw whey concentrate, Neptune's Harvest fish hydrolysate, chia seeds, and unrefined red palm oil for fat and protein. I make homemade water kefir. I make 2 superfood smoothies per day. The supplements I take are tmg, msm, beta alanine, niacin, K1 sublingual, 5000 units D3, and 25000 units Vit A from fish liver oil. I breathe in ozone from a generator 20 min 4 times a day. Watch raw food videos for inspiration and study David Avocado Wolfe for superfood expertise. Then prepare to blast off into the stratosphere of optimal functioning.
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Old 10-20-2017, 04:48 PM
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I was poisoned by toxic fumes at a job. I have tried all kinds of diets and supplements trying to fix myself. The primary objective is to eat high energy living foods. This raises the energy of all electrons in the body. Pasteurized conventionally grown orange juice is low energy dead food. Raw organic orange is high energy living food. Cooked conventional egg is low energy dead food. Raw pastured egg is high energy living food. I eat raw organic fruit, raw wildflower honey, and raw organic whole cane sugar for carbs. I eat raw pastured eggs, raw whey concentrate, Neptune's Harvest fish hydrolysate, chia seeds, and unrefined red palm oil for fat and protein. I make homemade water kefir. I make 2 superfood smoothies per day. The supplements I take are tmg, msm, beta alanine, niacin, K1 sublingual, 5000 units D3, and 25000 units Vit A from fish liver oil. I breathe in ozone from a generator 20 min 4 times a day. Watch raw food videos for inspiration and study David Avocado Wolfe for superfood expertise. Then prepare to blast off into the stratosphere of optimal functioning.
How to get raw pastured eggs? What are they, as opposed to regular, supermarket eggs, and how to get them?As to "optimal function," I'm on welfare, and cannot afford it. Ifunction well enough to gain a job, I'll be happy ,adn I've got pretty good health, as is.
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Old 10-20-2017, 07:21 PM
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I was homeless, sleeping in shelters and camping out. I had so many diseases even my diseases had diseases. I had nightmares every night. I suffered terribly for many years. I know what it is like to have nerves that go all scatty whompus and a brain the gets discombobulated.

I had zero income for many years. I am 65 years old. I have spent 10 years studying and experimenting with natural products. I'll tell you exactly what you must do to fix yourself, Eating the evil food that wicked masterminds make and then taking supplements won't fix you. You must eat God's Goodies, the food that wild animals eat. Believe in God and eat His Goodies, my motto. I know it costs more. It costs more because it has more nutrients, nutrients that franken food lacks, a lack of those nutrients is causing your predicament. First get some organic bananas.

They cost the least, have the most sugar, and contain a rare fiber that is extremely beneficial to the digestive system. Wait for them to get very ripe. Eat the fruit , scrape the peels with a knife and eat the scrapings. I cannot emphasize this enough you absolutely must eat raw eggs. The egg turns into an animal because it has special nutrients, special nutrients that you must get raw. Eat as many as you can afford. I weigh 180 lbs. and eat 4 per day. A pastured egg is 75% greens and bugs and 25% organic grains.

Organic eggs have less pasture. Some companies cheat. The way you can tell is when the yolk is firm and orange it's good and when the yolk is soft and yellow then don't eat it. Sometimes during the winter they change. I get organic valley at the present time cause they are reputable and they are on sale at Natural Grocers for 25 cents apiece. Crack the egg into a cup and swallow. Don't stir or blend.

Make adjustment on the supplements according to your weight. I aim for 30 grams fat, 60 grams protein, and 500 grams carbs. For more fat take unrefined red palm oil. For omega 3 take chia seeds. You can eat them whole and the nutrients are bioavailable. For more protein get a gallon of Neptune's Harvest Fish Hydrolysate on line or at a garden center. It's stabilized so you can store at room temperate. It's approximately 50% protein. I take 60 grams per day. This is a very beneficial supplement, mostly raw enzymatically digested organs, glandulars, connective tissue, and 9% raw unrefined fish oil for just 1 cent a gram.

It doesn't get any better than that. 5000 units D3, 25000 units A from fish liver oil, and 1 tab K1 sublingual. It is important to take these three nutrients with some fat, get them in the right dosages, and proper proportions, 1 gram opti msm 3 times per day, and niacin 1/2 gram 3 times per day. Get natural sea salt. I buy supplements on the internet in bulk. They are reasonable this way. When you have some extra money buy other types of raw organic fruit. Watch raw food videos. They can explain to you why raw organic fruit is the best food. I know natural nutrition is expensive and complicated but it all has to do with the way food effects cellular biology. Eat bad food the wrong way and we get sick. Eat good food the right way and we become calm and cognitive.
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Old 10-21-2017, 01:05 PM
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Ascorbic Vitamin C, vs. ascorbate--which is superior? I want to to buy the most powerful typ,e and try John Gray's cure for Parkinson's/ADHD, etc. Also,do you know about lysosomal Vitamin C?

Beyond that, what do you know of glutathione, sulphoraphane, and boosting glutathione production, in the body?
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Old 10-21-2017, 07:24 PM
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Vitamin C requires cofactors so an isolate supplement is not effective and a waste of time and money. Either get raw organic citrus fruit, scrape the peel for the bioflavonoids, or get the super foods camu camu or acerola cherry. Get organic broccoli sprout powder for sulphoraphane. The best way to get glutathione is with raw pastured eggs and msm. Egg has the best type of amino acid for making glutathione. It is delicate and sensitive to heat and stirring. Egg also has selenium. Selenium and methyl from msm increase the amount of time glutathione stays active.
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MSM? What be that? Can I buy broccoli sprout powder in the supermarket, or a health food store? I was to told broccoli sprout powder ain't as good as broccoli sprouts, and takes away some of the benefits, but I need to see if enough sulphoraphane make a difference, with my aspergers symptoms.
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MSM? What be that?
I've used it for years as a supplement to prevent pain in the muscles, etc. due to inflammation. http://www.natmedtalk.com/showthread...lfonyl+methane
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MSM is a form of DSM, or MDSM, or whatever? Isn't it that compound where its factory workers benefited just from being around the plant? And it's absorbable through the skin?

It think I've heard of this.

So, you recommend this, because it is anti-inflammatory, in general. Sounds like it should work similar to sulphoraphane; that why you are recommending it? Haven't heard any about it and brain inflammation specifically, however.
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I've only used MSM is supplement capsule form for muscle pain, inflammation, etc. I have no information on it's use for brain inflammation specifically.

They touch on the subject in this brain cancer article. https://www.cancertutor.com/brain_cancer/
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Well, I've found a source for raw, pastured eggs. As for organic bananas, I don't know.

What does the ozone generator do, specifically?

For the record, something seems to have kicked in for me, yesterday. I have greater calm, more ability to relax, and yes, a little more energy. I think it's because of all the sulfur, or sulphoraphane, that I've been taking, through a diet heavy in avocado, walnuts, almonds, and onion. I've also laid off sugar in the last week, and that could be it, but I doubt it. Yesterday, especially last evening, I just felt inordinately good. Thoughts? I've been eating plenty brown rice, but I doubt it be that...
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Well, I've found a source for raw, pastured eggs. As for organic bananas, I don't know.

For the record, something seems to have kicked in for me, yesterday. I have greater calm, more ability to relax, and yes, a little more energy. I think it's because of all the sulfur, or sulphoraphane, that I've been taking, through a diet heavy in avocado, walnuts, almonds, and onion. I've also laid off sugar in the last week, and that could be it, but I doubt it. Yesterday, especially last evening, I just felt inordinately good. Thoughts? I've been eating plenty brown rice, but I doubt it be that...
They sell organic bananas at many supermarkets and health food stores where I live, not hard to find at all.

Good to hear you're feeling a bit better, and I bet it is related to your diet mentioned. Laying off the sugar is excellent and I trust it has a LOT to do with the way you feel.

My friend had an autistic son, and along with some herbal treatments he took the boy off sugar, the result he said was amazing. He felt sorry for his son on this birthday and bought him a sweet sheetcake, the boy went backwards in his progress. My friend swore, no more sweets, not worth it.
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Ozone is ormus oxygen. They say it irritates the lungs and sinuses. But they don't say why it doesn't irritate the other tissues. I figured it was because the ozone was burning off the toxins from pollution. The ozone irritated my lungs and sinuses for approximately 10 days. I'm 65 years old. Then my lungs and sinuses felt rejuvenated. I do 4 sessions of 20 minutes per day blowing the ozone in my face with an ozone generator of 4000mg/hr that costs $70. The ozone gives me much more energy than plain oxygen. Whole Foods has whole trade bananas for 50 cents/pound. They are grown exactly the same as organic. MSM is a methyl donor. It mops up the pollution when burning fuel in the mitochondria. Athletes take msm for increased endurance. Old people take msm as an anti-aging supplement The sulfur is also very beneficial. I take 1gram 3 timer per day. I weigh 180.
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