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Old 04-16-2008, 02:07 PM
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Default Preparing for bladder surgery.

My brother has a cancerous tumour in his bladder, which will be removed next Wednesday. What is the best way for him to prepare the ground, as it were, to avoid a hospital acquired infection? I think the local hospital is no worse than others, but MRSA and other infections are everywhere, now.
So this will be an endoscopic tumour removal. He needs to have his bladder awash with anti-bacterial agents beforehand, as well as after. What would you do, in those circumstances? Drink lots of - ???
I can make capsules for him. I have turmeric, oregano oil, grapefruit seed extract, CS. Probably a lot of other things that I have forgotten about, by now. We are so infection-free in the past couple of years, that I really have forgotten what to do!!
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I would certainly do MMS just before surgery, as close to surgery time as possible.

Then there is Allimed.

You can go to this page to get other ideas.
http://www.healthsalon.org/category/infections/


Lugol's Iodine is also another possibility. 6 drops in a couple ounces of water just before surgery and 6 drops 3 x day for about 6 days post surgery.
Of course this is not for anyone who is allergic to iodine.

And: http://www.healthsalon.org/268/known...ative-therapy/
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Old 04-17-2008, 04:20 AM
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Many thanks Arrow. I see the Allimed is fairly local to me.
I have MMS so it will be easy to dose him with that. I suppose he should take curcumin for many years, now.
Somehow, I think that won't happen - he is an old sea-salt, and plans on going back to sea. Wreck recovery is his passion now! This hiatus, to deal with a health problem, is viewed as a great inconvenience to his normal way of life
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:37 AM
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The most powerful immune booster that I use is beta 1,3/1,6 glucans extracted from the walls of yeast cells.
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Old 04-17-2008, 08:27 AM
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Thanks, Iggy.
That prompted a sweet - sad memory of Bifrost saying "Why not just enjoy the beta glucans as food? Eat mushrooms."
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Xania,

I think there is a probiotic drink, sold under the name Actimel in Europe (and Danactive in the USA), that is supposed to enhance immunity.

http://www.actimel.co.uk/

Since it's technically a food, perhaps the doctors and nursing staff wouldn't object to your brother taking it ... while in the hospital.

Just a thought.
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Old 04-17-2008, 10:13 AM
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Good thought, Harry. Actimel is on all the supermarket shelves and as the hospital is sure to fill him with antibiotics, he will need something like that. I don't know the rate of C. Diff infection at that hospital. Maybe it is online.
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http://www.hampshirechronicle.co.uk/...a_outbreak.php

This shows how the local hospital dealth with MRSA, using a hydrogen peroxide vapour technique
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Xania,

Something else I would personally consider is a good whey protein supplement. As you know, hospital-food generally isn't very nutritious. Adding an easily digestible protein, with a high (P)rotein (E)fficiency (R)atio (like whey protein) might be helpful ... for filling in the nutritional gaps.

Also, whey protein is known to support immune function and also combat harmful microorganisms (due to various components like lactoferrin).

Finally, protein (in general) can help promote the body's natural healing process. The higher-quality the protein ... the better (meaning the possibility of quicker healing).

PS - It's easy to camouflage other healthy ingredients in whey - like added nutrients, probiotics, beta glucans, glutamine, etc.
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Yep. I agree. I use Jarrow Whey daily and love it. It is a Superfood!
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A good protein powder should have a good level of Glutamine in it anyway, so no need to stack it with a Freeform Glutamine, although Freeform could be had as something before sleep, rather than getting it in Whey form, so you don't get a load of Calories instead.

You might be wise to check out Myprotein.co.uk

I don't shop online, but I know they do a good custom mix, dffering Proteins, Aminos, Fats, extras and also differing Carbs including a combi like Palatinose, so you could have something tailored to what you think is best, even if you just go for a basic Whey and Carb formula, with a flavouring and Tub.
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Safety and Effectiveness: Persons with kidney disease should not take whey protein. http://healthfraud.org/tx/resources/factsheets/whey.htm
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Can I use whey protein if I have kidney disease? 100% whey protein isolate is one of the most easily digested and most easily absorbed forms of protein available. Its Protein Efficiency Ratio (a mark of the quality of a protein) is extremely high, and in conditions such as renal failure where protein intake must be limited, it is most prudent to consume the highest quality proteins such as whey protein isolate and egg white proteins, versus lower quality proteins such as red meat and dairy, that produce more problematic metabolic waste by-products and residues. http://www.energyfirst.com/site/file...in-Powder.html
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Xania, one thing that was suggested on the Dr. Phil show for MRSA prevention was Germicidal UV light.. They recommended Cleanselight, but there are other products out there that do the same thing.

basically, the UV-C light range between 200 and 280 nm kills germs. It is an easy way to disinfect without having to wipe everything down.

also, if you do wipe things down, make sure you don't just do flat surfaces.. but the areas that the patient will come in contact with with any exposed part of his body. This is where the light comes in handy.. because not everything is easily wiped down. like keyboards, pianos, rough / curved surfaces with pits.. etc.

http://www.natmedtalk.com/showthread...2953#post16953
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Germicidal UV light (200nm-280nm) or UV-C, is effective in microbial control. Research has demonstrated that within this UV-C band the most efficient frequency for microbial destruction is between 254nm and 265nm. Germicidal lamps that the majority of their output is in this range will be the most effective in ultraviolet sanitizing.
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That seems like a great suggestion, ST. I had never considered such a thing.

It would seem helpful to have one of these in every hospital room! Great for travel too.

No wonder they're sold out.
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