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Another mass shooting. It getting to be almost like clock work, whenever we start hearing stories of large groups of people buying guns or a major set back in anti-gun laws (as just happened here in Illinois) it seems magically some brain dead drugged zombie pops up and goes out on a shooting spree. Then all of the usual suspects crawl out from under their rocks and wail about the senseless loss of live saying this proves we need stronger gun laws.

But why is it that in shootings like this the shooter is typically described as being in a daze? This to me is nothing more then a blatant in-your-face false flag attack. Some unlucky mope is picked up drugged out of his mind, brain washed, and given a gun pointed at a target and told to start shooting.



For the powers-that-be this is simply a problem, reaction, solution scenario and if some people die in the process “so what”.
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I would be willing to bet he was on prozac or paxil, or zoloft, or some other psych med.

I also wouldn't doubt he was brainwashed into doing this so the feds would have another "reason" to take away your guns, and this should come as no surprise.

Its just a shame that children would be used in such a disgusting plot.
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This group sucks: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendl...hool-shooting/
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Regarding the shooting I just ran across this.

Remember the Colorado shooting and the “joker” and how his father was scheduled to testify before a government committee about high level banking scandal?

Well guess what; it now appears that our current shooter’s father was also scheduled to testify before a government committee about high level banking scandal. (Libor)

Doe’s anyone still believe that this is just another case of a "lone gunman" going crazy?
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Regarding the shooting I just ran across this.

Remember the Colorado shooting and the “joker” and how his father was scheduled to testify before a government committee about high level banking scandal?

Well guess what; it now appears that our current shooter’s father was also scheduled to testify before a government committee about high level banking scandal. (Libor)

Doe’s anyone still believe that this is just another case of a "lone gunman" going crazy?
You beat me, I was just going to post that
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Its just a shame that children would be used in such a disgusting plot.
Yes, the level of cowardice in some people is beyond comprehension. Any adult sicko who preys on the innocence of a child deserves to be dropped on an inhabited island filled with snakes and large spiders.
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We had a very similar incident in Dunblane, Scotland a few years back. (It led to tighter gun controls - not that ours were anyway as liberal as yours are.)

Seems to be happening on a regular basis in the States, somebody shooting up a school or a mall.

Staggering that the response from the gun lobby is to arm the teachers! What next, arm the kids?!

There are too many guns circulating in America. Too many high calibre guns. It's insane that an average Joe can easily equip himself with such destructive weapons.
I saw a picture of the killer on the news tonight. Just a kid. He looked like he hadn't even started shaving yet.
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We had a very similar incident in Dunblane, Scotland a few years back. (It led to tighter gun controls - not that ours were anyway as liberal as yours are.)

Seems to be happening on a regular basis in the States, somebody shooting up a school or a mall.

Staggering that the response from the gun lobby is to arm the teachers! What next, arm the kids?!

There are too many guns circulating in America. Too many high calibre guns. It's insane that an average Joe can easily equip himself with such destructive weapons.
I saw a picture of the killer on the news tonight. Just a kid. He looked like he hadn't even started shaving yet.
The government doesn't give a crap about these kids, they only pretend to care.

I'm still waiting to see if this guy was on psych meds like all the other young mass killers. These meds have side effects that include suicide and extreme anger issues. How does a 20 year old become so angry?

The government wants to control the people, I mean total control, and they can't do that when people are armed to the teeth. They will start by taking away the automatic weapons and armour piercing bullets. Then they will try to take away everything else. That is why they are somehow connected to these mass killings, either through drugs or brainwashing, or perhaps both.

Remember, the government stocked up on millions of rounds of ammunition and built camps all accross America... so hang onto yer guns!!
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It is being asked what would reduce this type of gun violence in this country. Well adding more gun laws won’t do it. When Australia banned all gun ownership did it reduce gun violence? Ah no, actually their gun violence plus crime in general went up. When Britain also banned all guns they had the same results! When Hitler, Mao, Stalin disarmed their people. Were the people safer as a result of that?
Therefore how can it be assumed that more restrictive guns will make us safer?

To get this type of violence to stop we need to get the people behind what the MSM likes to tell us is it is just a “lone gunmen”. We need to take off the blinders and rose colored glasses and see that these “incidents” are nothing but false flag attacks. The people behind these attacks have their own agenda and goals, and helping to promote humanity is not one of them.

These power-that-be are afraid of us because there is way more of us then there is of them, thus they need to reduce our numbers. But we are armed and that poses a bit of a problem hence the push for anti-gun laws.

To achieve this they follow a problem – reaction - solution scenario.
First they create a problem by getting some mind controlled drugged mope to shoot up a bunch of kids. (Note; how the actions of these shooters is typically described as “robotic”)
The average person then rightly reacts to this with horror and disgust. But then accepts the “lone gunman” theory because it is too scary to believe that any group could be this evil.
They then present the solution they’re looking for, the disarming of the people, and to many that sounds like a good idea. However once they get all of us disarmed then the extermination of us “useless eaters” can began in earnest.

While this may sound like science fiction but if you look into the "elites" writings this is what they propose. World population reduced by 80% and the remaining 20% will be their slaves and at that number easier to control.



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Do you really think you are going to get into a shoot-out with government forces? That's a bit silly. Japan has the toughest gun laws and they had 2 gun murders last year compared to the US with over 9500 so you can't really say gun laws don't work.
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Staggering that the response from the gun lobby is to arm the teachers! What next, arm the kids?!
I'm very mixed about that Knight. It is written into our Constitution that we have the "right" to bear arms. Airline pilots are now armed. That should dissuade hijacking by violence. There is one school in Texas that is being looked at as a model, where the teachers are armed. Not all of them, but enough to let people know not to mess with that school.

I agree with Pinballdoctor, as usual, that we will discover yet another kid on anti-depressive SSRI drugs.

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A senior law enforcement official confirmed that Lanza's anger at his mother’s plans for “his future mental health treatment” is being looked at as a possible motive for the deadly shooting.
Early December 14, 20-year-old Adam Lanza killed his mother who he believed loved the school “more than she loved him”, and then headed for Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown where he killed 20 children and 6 adults. As he heard the police approaching, he committed suicide.
“From what I've been told, Adam was aware of her petitioning the court for conservatorship and (her) plans to have him committed,” Joshua Flashman, who knew Adam well, told. “Adam was apparently very upset about this.”
Adam Lanza attended the Sandy Hook School as a boy, according to Flashman. Nancy Lanza, Adam’s mother, had volunteered there for several years. Most of Lanza's victims were children Nancy Lanza may have worked with.
Multiple sources told Adam Lanza suffered from Asperger’s syndrome, a form of autism, and unspecified mental and emotional problems.
Those who knew him described him as “highly intelligent”, at the same time “ill-at-ease socially”, “but not a monster.”
The police are questioning witnesses of the tragedy and examining the evidence. The investigation is expected to last for months.
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New York Magazine wrote a piece about shooter Adam Lanza's supposed "aspergers" syndrome as a "red herring" meant to distract from the real problem (guns, of course, the subject goes without mentioning).
Inside the piece though they report Adam Lanza's uncle said the boy was prescribed Fanapt, a controversial anti-psychotic medicine.
Fanapt was the subject of a Bloomberg report when it passed regulators, after previously getting the "nonapproval" stamp
http://www.businessinsider.com/adam-...fanapt-2012-12
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Teachers should teach, not be military commandos. My better half is a grammar school teacher and she would be terrified to handle a weapon. I know she wouldn't use it. Arming teachers is a fail. Disarming visitors would work much better.
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I think that if one of the teachers involved had a concealed carry, they would've taken immediate action, and he could've been taken down and some of those children't lives would've been saved. I'd have no problem using a gun for self defense, and those who would be armed in the school like security guards or certain teachers would obviously be comfortable and experienced in handling the weapon.

All Americans should be able to keep and bear arms, I don't want only the military and police in charge in an emergency situation. If there's a major power outage or hurricance, I don't want just the criminal element taking over and looting my home and threatening my family and neighbors. You know that even if guns are taken away from the average good citizen, that the thieves, etc. will still be packin'.

I think all of us said to ourselves when this took place, that the kid was probably on prescription meds for a mental or emotional reason, and it would be another incident to get the tongues wagging about gun control again, didn't even wait for those poor babies to be buried.
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The amount of US children on psych meds is enormous. In some communities it approaches 50 percent.
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I agree that a certain pecent of teachers could be armed. This obviously would not be good for all teachers as many would be incapable. But I bet there would be teachers in each school that are capable and willing. My kids went to schools in Dallas with metal detectors at all doors and security guards. Security guards carried guns. This would be better than taking people's rights away.

Certainly a better option than sending your kids to school in bullet proof vests and backpacks.. a vest isnt much help unless you wear a helmut too.

KSL took all gun adds of their listings this week, thats a major metropolitain news paper internet listing altering their behavior out of mass hysteria promoted by the media. They have had quite a few anti gun quaks on tV doing their rant who done represent the left or the rigth.. just thier paranoid panic inducing mindset.

In America we have an abundance of concentration camps built to hold hundreds of thousands of people.. we also have swat teams all over the place. We have criminals with guns who procure them illegally, fully underground, we have psycho military back box operation... personally I feel we must keep our rights to have weapons. We need better controls on sales in some kind of way..

My reading indicates that these types of assinations are not new in history. they have been going on for a long time. The greatest assins we have are the politically condoned murders done by our military in foreign nations. I say take their guns away, not mine.....

We must always remember that a white child in America has a greater life value than an Iraqi child, or a Rowandan child, or a Columbian child or a Nicaraguan child, or a child from Chile or Argentina or Peru. Not too much outrage there when our military supports and pays for imperialists moves, puppet regimes, that kill children around the world either through guns or starvation.

Personally those little kids in Conneticut are no different than all the rest to me... which does not diminish my regret for what happened there at all. Lets take care of the things that can be taken care of regarding all children around the world and not get so upset regarding the few psychos that live in our extremely neurotic society that go nuts once in a while. These cannot be predicted nor prevented. If some one wants to take a few people out they will find a way. there are so many ways for the creative mind.. guns is only one.

This use of guns is only a mirror to our very violent military and media, both in news reports and 'entertainment'... If using poison was popular with these institutions you would have psychos poisoning people instead.
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