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this is a Trutv test pilot episode headed up by Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy.
It is not yet clear if the station will run with further episodes. I hope they do.


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Meh... I'll lay odds they won't. Once 2012 comes and goes, nobody will really care anymore, until the next big "doom" date.

That's the whole reason people are questioning everything now... So, if 2012 passes and nothing happens, and I mean absolutely nothing... Then shows like this will be canned pretty quick, because people will just go back to burying their heads in the sand....
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watched this and due to following such topics for years was left unmoved! each guest on the show is a friend of Bill and Kerry, so I found some of the presentation somewhat cheesey!!!

probably interesting viewing for those who are new to this material.

John Lear who has been interviewed by Project Camelot says some interesting things about 2012 and our solar system as well as 9/11! John belongs to the "no planer" brigade, and believes the planes were holograms. Plenty of food for though!

I prefer the John Lear interviews with Miles Johnston, and here is the link to the page on You Tube for them:-

http://www.youtube.com/user/megawatt...uery=john+lear
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Maybe 2012 is just the end date on the "Free Trial" of the video game we are in. That was a popular theory as well..

That we are part of an elaborate computer simulation... However, that begs the question, if that is what we are... Then who made our "creators"

Very deep thoughts, that definitely can keep you occupied at all hours of the day and night...
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Yes, John Lear is quite a person of interest..

tick, this is not a program about 2012 and really has nothing to do with 2012. It is long time issues with the space program that are being revealed. Interest has been developing regarding this issue outside of 2012 info and misinfo. I dont know why you try to mix this up.
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Yes, John Lear is quite a person of interest..

tick, this is not a program about 2012 and really has nothing to do with 2012. It is long time issues with the space program that are being revealed. Interest has been developing regarding this issue outside of 2012 info and misinfo. I dont know why you try to mix this up.
It has everything to do with 2012. The issues with the space program believe it or not, have almost everything to do with 2012.

You see, there was a big push in the Space Programs of many countries (though they would not openly admit it now) was the thought that an asteroid, or other space calamity was going to destroy the earth, however, the object in question was supposed to be coming in 2007 (or they were going to launch the mission in 2007, the stories were buried pretty deep). Something happened, and the object was pushed off course, and was no longer a threat.. Notice how funding to the space program sort of stopped around that time?

And now we get a big influx of funding for the space program again, and it's all about 2012. Not precisely the end date, however, 2026 is the date when we might bite the big one again due to a planetary body (I think it was an asteroid, need to check again) that would cause an extinction level event should it hit the earth... So of course they are putting a beeline on funding again, and it has everything to do with 2012... Just not in a direct sense.

Also, they want to be sure about the flyby in Feb... So... Yes... While it doesn't mention 2012, 2012 is and was a big factor.

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But the Mars development has been going on for many ages, without concern for an end times event. No clear connection to an end times event has been presented as yet anyway. We really have very little information as of yet. Our more recent connection and development has all been a growth out of our acquisition of "alien" technology within black box operations in the US and other nations as well. Teleportation and a ship that can fly to Mars to further development carries huge amounts of cargo and to develop bases may or may not have anything to do with end time scenarios. To me it is more an extension of age old intentions to inhabit other planets within the universe.

Star wars technology and HARRP may have more to do with dealing with potential disaster scenarios
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But the Mars development has been going on for many ages, without concern for an end times event. No clear connection to an end times event has been presented as yet anyway. We really have very little information as of yet. Our more recent connection and development has all been a growth out of our acquisition of "alien" technology within black box operations in the US and other nations as well. Teleportation and a ship that can fly to Mars to further development carries huge amounts of cargo and to develop bases may or may not have anything to do with end time scenarios. To me it is more an extension of age old intentions to inhabit other planets within the universe.

Star wars technology and HARRP may have more to do with dealing with potential disaster scenarios
Interesting you should bring up the star wars technology. Those programs have all but been abandoned now.

HAARP is rather interesting, because the official stories differ on WHAT exactly it's supposed to be for when you ask different people.

If we keep up our current state of humanity though, we won't ever get off this rock.

Whether you want to believe it's because of greed and nobody will ever get the project off the ground, or if you believe aliens will keep us in quarantine (another popular 2012 theory that doesn't spell the end of the world) it doesn't seem likely we'll make too many more advancements.

I think it's odd that Obama cut NASA funding all but eliminating the program, and all of a sudden brings it back? Something stinks....
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Interesting you should bring up the star wars technology. Those programs have all but been abandoned now.

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Thats what they would have you think. Lets look at the research of Dr Judy Woods and energy weapons.

I think that the stars war program came to be viewed as excitatory and pushing forward the nuclear race, so the clamp came down, at least in the public and international eye.

And some of this technology could have been moved to Mars for a closer shot.
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Thats what they would have you think. Lets look at the research of Dr Judy Woods and energy weapons.

I think that the stars war program came to be viewed as excitatory and pushing forward the nuclear race, so the clamp came down, at least in the public and international eye.

And some of this technology could have been moved to Mars for a closer shot.

Only one I have seen that was sort of still in development were "space guns" that would fire those spent uranium fuel rods from space. "kinetic energy weapons" Amazing what a tiny little rod can do from space...

Think dropping a penny off the Eiffel tower, it can kill someone, now toss a spent fuel rod down from space....

*sigh... We spend more time and money looking for ingenious ways to kill one another, if we focused that energy into something "productive" we could end world hunger, or end world disease... But no.... We'd rather kill each other...
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1)Think dropping a penny off the Eiffel tower, it can kill someone,

2) now toss a spent fuel rod down from space....

1) Throwing a penny off the Empire State Building wouldn't kill someone. A penny only weighs about a gram and it tumbles as it falls. Because of the tumbling and the light weight, there's so much air resistance that the penny never really gathers that much speed before it hits its terminal velocity. A gram of weight traveling at a relatively slow speed might hurt a little if it hit you on the head, but it's not going to kill you.

2) Asteroids with a diameter of 5 to 10 meters, and energy equal to 15 kilotons of TNT, enter into the Earth's atmosphere approximately once every year; while, those with a diameter of over 50 meters enter the Earth's atmosphere approximately once in a thousand years. Their impact can be devastating if they hit the Earth, but they disintegrate in the upper atmosphere and most of the particles are vaporized, thus rendering them harmless.
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1) Throwing a penny off the Empire State Building wouldn't kill someone. A penny only weighs about a gram and it tumbles as it falls. Because of the tumbling and the light weight, there's so much air resistance that the penny never really gathers that much speed before it hits its terminal velocity. A gram of weight traveling at a relatively slow speed might hurt a little if it hit you on the head, but it's not going to kill you.

2) Asteroids with a diameter of 5 to 10 meters, and energy equal to 15 kilotons of TNT, enter into the Earth's atmosphere approximately once every year; while, those with a diameter of over 50 meters enter the Earth's atmosphere approximately once in a thousand years. Their impact can be devastating if they hit the Earth, but they disintegrate in the upper atmosphere and most of the particles are vaporized, thus rendering them harmless.
I take it you think the "space guns" with spent fuel rods idea wouldn't fly then huh.

Oh well, there goes another Billion dollars in research :P
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Works fine in space. Once you try to penetrate the atmosphere, you just make an observant persons wish come true.
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Works fine in space. Once you try to penetrate the atmosphere, you just make an observant persons wish come true.
Suppose so. But still, they used to drop lead pencils out of airplanes in the second world war and those pierced helmets and killed people...

Although not sure what they would have weighed or materials for sure either... So, pencils might be an exaggeration of their size too...
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Suppose so. But still, they used to drop lead pencils out of airplanes in the second world war and those pierced helmets and killed people...

Although not sure what they would have weighed or materials for sure either... So, pencils might be an exaggeration of their size too...

If one was to contemplate that myth, it might begin to smell of a certain barnyard creatures droppings.
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