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think i'm in the right forum, this is my 1st post though. so go easy on me please
just wondered if anybody had tried this, i have has MASSIVE problems with paracites, i have been taking the mms 1 in a decent ammout for about 6 months, and it has got me so near to being well again
i just have a few niggles in me that i am struggling to shift, i have also taken mms 2
i am so gratefull that i found mms1, as i was in an awfull state, joints aching (pretty much EVERY one) and not staying in place, all muscles giving a vibrating and buzzing feeling, and i had very bad sleep because of this
i just wish a could shift the last few problems out of my body, i did read about a colon mms procedure to clean the last few problems, but don't think i have it in me to carry out this got me reading about oxy powder, which gets into the colon and is supposed to completely clean it out, i am onto day 2 at the minute, but i will keep people informed about my progress

also may i add, i am taking mms 1 with dmso atm, mixing it together and rubbing it into the skin of the affected areas
any help and advice would be greatly received, i am not in any way a medical genius, and i may be doing something wrong. so if anyone could help me please, i would be very gratefull
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Be very careful with the dmso. Anything dissolved in it will be absorbed into your skin. make sure your skin is wasked and rinsed before applying
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Be very careful with the dmso. Anything dissolved in it will be absorbed into your skin. make sure your skin is wasked and rinsed before applying
good point
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Hello Nickmatt, and a big welcome to you!! Yea, I think you're in the right place, as I don't think anyone on here claims to be a medical guru, but the good spirit of caring and helpfulness motivates many here.. You'll find many on here that is quiet knowledgeable about alternative methods too.
It is helpful to know such things as what it is that you are taking MMS for, and such things as what your blood test readings are associated with your health concerns.. otherwise, sound insight into alternative help, might be a shot in the dark, or too generalized for you....if ya know what I mean??
It is good to hear that you've experienced the healing benefits of MMS, and no doubt you've done your homework on it's methods and doses, after sticking with it for 6 months.
Are you up to speed with the CDS made from the MMS ??
I hear ya about the enema methods, but there's truth about the colon area being a secondary lung too, used for getting the oxygen exchange into the body while preforming lung surgeries. Something to consider with certain alternative enema methods and recommended treatments..
Oxypowder ~ intestinal parasites ~ I'd have to agree with what Saved said above...Be Careful.. Keep in mind that Oxidants has it's place...and Antioxidants has it's rolls to play too.. So does the natural biological processes within the bodies design to care for itself.. There are some parasites that has a resistance against oxidants, ~ MMS, does not destroy all known parasites, but it does cover a wide range of them....~ MMS, also normal chlorination, is ineffective against certain parasites found in some well waters and shallow water sources that is downstream from years of defication build up in soils..
Here's a read on it...
http://www.freedrinkingwater.com/wat...-pathogens.htm

There are a variety of considerations, each being generalized when it comes to health issues.. and what to look for.
Anyway... Glad to see ya here..and hope you'll share your input with us!!
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Hello Nickmatt, and a big welcome to you!! Yea, I think you're in the right place, as I don't think anyone on here claims to be a medical guru, but the good spirit of caring and helpfulness motivates many here.. You'll find many on here that is quiet knowledgeable about alternative methods too.
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thank you for the very insightfull post hobo
yes i have read up about mms and its dosages etc, but tbh i haven't come across cds with it, could you explain a little or post me a link please
as i say i have come on a tremendous ammout within 6 months, i was in an awful state, and would be hard to say i wasn't thinking 'is the only way to stop this is to end everything' even though i would NEVER ever do it or even have the bottle to do it, i have far too much to live for, and are of very sound mind. but as i say, these are the crazy thoughts that go through your head. day after day of aching, no sleep because of massive joint problems, and the buzzing feeling of the muscles
i am obviously a hell of a lot better,but i still have somthing lurking in my toes, pelvic area, shoulders and neck
so would just love to rid myself of these lingering niggles

on the oxy powder, i would say yes, it definately cleans the colon out. the mms makes me very regular and lots of it when i do, and it obviously does get into the colon, as i have taken things to a new level so to speak
can't say it's got any more paracites out of me, as i'm still the same niggles wise, i seem to have hit a brick wall with that, which is why i am pleading for anyones help or advice on here
i would definately recomend oxy to the masses though, as it cant be good having waste rotting food in your colon for years, this imo could be a major cause of colon cancer, so surely it's worth the money for that alone
anyway thanks for the post, and i look forward to hearing from you or anyone else regarding this matter
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Hi Nickmatt, and welcome to the forum.

I have not used oxypowder only homozon, which is what I recommend. there is a lot of contention between the companies so I chose to go for the original... and made in my own state and I like to shop local but your product may be just fine.. I cant say one way or another..

Did you read the parasite story on healthsalon? It seems that mms is not always fully reliable to eliminate all parasites. I suggest that you read the article as well as all the comments to understand. If mms has not eliminated them in 6 months I would say that you should look for another solution. These parasites must be delt with for they can eventually invade vital organs, even if you must do a drug therapy to get rid of them. the most difficult part is convincing your doc that you have them.

some parasites that cause joint pain are microsopic and really never leave the joint. If mms is not working then a stronger oxidant may be required. You might benefit from ozone therapy though a doctors office that offers ozonation of the blood.

CDS may be more potent as it is easier to take and therfore you can take more of it.
I am not sure that the methods of production and application have been perfected yet but people are using it. We have a post about it here somewhere.

http://www.healthsalon.org/487/paras...res-parasites/


I recommed mms enemas because the portal vein will absorb the mms and take it directly to the liver.

Hobo is our local expert on ozone saline injections done at home.
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Hello Nickmatt,
After reading over the effects that you have been suffering from, I'd have to agree with Arrow's thoughts too, that after 6 mos. you should have already gotten successful results to what MMS has to offer you.
[The CDS is the same as MMS, only without the taste and much easier to drink.]
Here is the link to the CDS research page:
http://www.genesis2forum.org/index.p...d=16&Itemid=66
Just in case you are running a little low on the Sodium Chlorite, here's a current seller on ebay right now, [1-20-2012], If you send him a question, to order 5lbs. @ $45. he'll respond positive. This link is probably only good for a few days though, or until his supplies run out.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sodium-chlor...item27c2774451
~As for what you describe as niggles, neck, shoulders, toes, joints, etc. gives me the impression that you could be having some side effects from long term use of the MMS. [not sure though]
~The protective membranes surrounding nerves, ~Stressing adrenal gland [perhaps] for responsiveness to maintain proper regulatory functions; http://www.naturalnews.com/024985_co...d_fatigue.html
or [perhaps] you'd do well with a dose of 10 tabs of wheatgrass X3 a day, followed with wormwood and 1 tbs. of black walnut hull liquid 3 times day for 7 to 10 days, for colon cleansing and then clearing intestinal parasites...and the "Maze" goes on and on..
~Loss of sleep, that's a catch 22, darn if you do, darn if you don't type situation, yea, there's some herbs to help you relax, and get to sleep easier, such as Passion Flower, or Ornithine, [to help lower the toxin and ammonia levels in the "brain" for sleep], but this is maybe a 50-50 trial for you to try, or if you are at your wits end with continued exhaustion, see if your doctor will prescribe 50mg. nightly dose of Trazodone for you, get in bed quick though, ~out of all the sleep meds, Trazodone has the lesser harmful effects upon the body, such as liver. Loss of sleep is accumulative and leads to an extremely "Miserable" life to have to deal with.
~ more possibilities?
http://www.webmd.com/fibromyalgia/gu...trigger-points
And to mention that with some treatments, there are the "baby steps" to consider, the body at times needs to balance it's own natural processes ~ heal itself from the battles of blasting away at it with potent measures, even though a treatment proves beneficial. All things with sound judgment and reason.
Another thing to consider, is doing a mix and match type protocol, knowing that quite a few invading pathogens readily adapt and alter their own defenses, just in case you have invading parasites already planted within teeth filling, bones, organs etc.
~There's such things to consider with unknown allergies too, shampoo's, hair coloring, perms, all of which puts toxic chemical into the blood stream, soaps, pets, environment toxins, water quality, etc. etc..
Lastly, consider diet....eating a lot of Processed Foods? Or perhaps cooking the life out of the foods that you eat? Using a microwave oven to heat your meal?
I wish that I had the knowledge and insight into how to fix you to new again, but I don't, buy all means, don't give up ~
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yes, maybe you should define niggles for us.
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thank you so much for the replies, i am VERY gratefull
the niggles i have still, are the joint still being affected, although nowhere near the state they were in
my affected joints can still crack, telling me that i think the little beggers are in there still, it seems to me that they are still hanging on in there in small ammounts
i am open to other things to try as always, i obviously don't want things to going back to the way they were, which was horrible if truth be known
so ALL advice is helpfull and once again i am eternally gratefull for anyone who gives their time to try and help me (but please talk in lamens terms, and explain how to do it in full lol )
thank you
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Hello nickmatt,
Sometimes age and weight can effect joints, or Cold Weather...could either of these have anything that might have some influences ?

You say you've taken MMS for 6 months, and the 'discomforts' have become far less.. Do you feel that the MMS has then perhaps lessened the amount of residue around the joints, giving you better mobility and less pain?

Or do you feel that all the MMS you've taken has eliminated the inflammation, thus giving you more comfort? And is there any other meds and/or herbs. that you've been taking over the last 6 months?
Still trying to get to the bottom of the problems here..:-}
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Sometimes age and weight can effect joints, or Cold Weather...could either of these have anything that might have some influences ?

You say you've taken MMS for 6 months, and the 'discomforts' have become far less.. Do you feel that the MMS has then perhaps lessened the amount of residue around the joints, giving you better mobility and less pain?

Or do you feel that all the MMS you've taken has eliminated the inflammation, thus giving you more comfort? And is there any other meds and/or herbs. that you've been taking over the last 6 months?
Still trying to get to the bottom of the problems here..:-}

i am 37
i have taken mms for 6 months, but started off initially twice a day for a week or so, then onto once or twice a week, but i only started taking it every day about 12 weeks ago
i feel that i have a lot less paracites around the joints tbh, it has given me a lot more mobility and i don't feel as lethargic
no i haven't taken any other vitamins or herbs, do you recomend any to help ?
thank you again for your advice
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Hello nickmatt, thanks for helping with narrowing things down for you, but we need to evaluate just a few more things, okay. So if you don't mind letting me know the following, it would be more helpful in the process of elimination. okay?

1.How much over or under weight?
I know..that's something that many of us try to not look at, but it can have a strong influence upon joints, especially if you're on your feet for long periods.

2.Have you been having any abdominal distress? Bloating? Diarrhea? or Cramping with Burning sensations with bowl movements? or a lot of fluid loss?

3.Any itching around nose, eyes, ears or around private parts?

4.Any skin sensitivity , such as rashes, eczema like conditions, or eruptions?

5.Any signs of nervous system being effected? Such as hands tremors etc.

6 Feelings of Depression? Anxiety? Sudden urges for food or thirst?
And how is your appetite?
Are you on a diet? Would you say that you eat at least 2,000 calories a day?

7.Have you noticed any unusual sore spots on the bottoms of your feet, sort of like a stone bruise?

Keep your chin up! Everything will work out just fine!
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Hello nickmatt, thanks for helping with narrowing things down for you, but we need to evaluate just a few more things, okay. So if you don't mind letting me know the following, it would be more helpful in the process of elimination. okay?

1.How much over or under weight?
I know..that's something that many of us try to not look at, but it can have a strong influence upon joints, especially if you're on your feet for long periods.

I AM OF GOOD WEIGHT, AS I EXERCISE REGULARLY AND KEEP EXTREMELY FIT

2.Have you been having any abdominal distress? Bloating? Diarrhea? or Cramping with Burning sensations with bowl movements? or a lot of fluid loss?

I GET VERY LOOSE AFTER TAKING MMS, IT COMES OUT IN A WATERY TYPE SOLUTION, BUT THERE IS BLACK BITS IN IT, WHICH LEADS ME TO THINK IT MAYBE THE EGGS COMING OUT, NO ABDOMINAL PAIN OR ANYTHING THOUGH

3.Any itching around nose, eyes, ears or around private parts?

NONE

4.Any skin sensitivity , such as rashes, eczema like conditions, or eruptions?

NONE

5.Any signs of nervous system being effected? Such as hands tremors etc.

NONE

6 Feelings of Depression? Anxiety? Sudden urges for food or thirst?
And how is your appetite?
Are you on a diet? Would you say that you eat at least 2,000 calories a day?

I WAS DOWN BEFORE I TOOK MMS, AS IT WAS A DARK PLACE AND NO-ONE HAD ANY ANSWERS
I EAT VERY WELL, AND HAVE NO BOTHER WITH MY APPETITE

7.Have you noticed any unusual sore spots on the bottoms of your feet, sort of like a stone bruise?

NONE

Keep your chin up! Everything will work out just fine!

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HELP ME OUT HOBO, YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY A VERY CARING AND GENUINE PERSON
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i did suffer from sneazing and colds for years, and always said it would be the death of me. i had to take antihistimines to try to counter act this. since mms....... nothing !
when i first took mms i remember looking down the toilet to see something very ugly staring at me. the only way i can describe it, was like a black sea enenamy, it had a head and tenticles, put it that way i only wish i had took a photo as evidence, as people don't believe me when i tell them
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Here is something to consider instead of the oxy powder.
Dr. Hulda Clark's Parasite Cleanse, for lower bowl area infestations.

~You do have the symptoms of Acute parasite infestation, and signs of it advancing out of the bowls upward into portal veins, which then results in water retention, some blood debris, that triggers natural dumping or flushing by the body attempting to correct the imbalance, resulting in black water, this then results in shock to the system of sudden fluid adjustments, that are most commonly felt as tingling sensations of lower limbs, legs, feet, toes. More sever dumps results in very painful leg and muscle cramping.

This might or might NOT be the case with you, so it certainly would not hurt to take precautions with doing a good Parasite Cleanse.

~You might consider, getting at least 2 of the 4 oz. bottles of "Black Walnut Hull Tincture Extra Strength", as 1 of the 4oz. bottles goes not last long.
http://shop.toolsforhealing.com/Blac..._p/dcr-bwt.htm

~ shop around cost wise, as there are several sites that carries it. With 2 kits on hand, you could also be prepared to do another cleanse later as a follow up cleanse if needed too.
Here's a site: http://www.onelifeusa.com/doctorparasitecleanse/
Here's another: http://shop.toolsforhealing.com/Blac..._p/dcr-bwt.htm

I'd also suggest that after your cleanses are complete, you consider the Lemon Juice/Olive oil drinks for liver and portal vein cleaning. This does work, but allow a longer time period to get proper cleansing, as stones, old debris, etc. tend to move into the area that has just been cleanse, so follow up cleansing needs to continue until all is removed.
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