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Old 01-13-2012, 08:49 PM
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Wow, your kind of fun is definately not mine. Why are you following Bill5?

You're going to chat with people who believe in the treatments they are taking. They probably are very fond of their doctor and have respect for him/her. They have hope and once they are in the midst of medical care with a doctor (especially one they like) the chance of them having a change of heart is slim.

If you feel energized in creating dissonance then have at it.
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Old 01-14-2012, 05:21 AM
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Wow, your kind of fun is definately not mine. Why are you following Bill5?

You're going to chat with people who believe in the treatments they are taking. They probably are very fond of their doctor and have respect for him/her. They have hope and once they are in the midst of medical care with a doctor (especially one they like) the chance of them having a change of heart is slim.

If you feel energized in creating dissonance then have at it.
Not following him, stumbled across that by accident.
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Old 01-14-2012, 05:28 AM
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Just went over there and made a post: they are the ones who are closed mined, not us. I have to look, but when I was searching that site, someone was praising the cleveland clinic. Lived in Cleveland for 6 yrsd: university hospitals is way better for cancer than the clinic, plus, the clinic will not accept very high risk patients, it fvcks up their survival stats.
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Old 01-14-2012, 06:19 AM
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Good grief! You are a glutton for punishment saved. Joe7 came to this board to diss the alternative and complementary path. He is passionately involved in the mainstream med world. Narrow minded.
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This interview MERCOLA has with Dr. Christine Horner who began her career as a board certified general- and plastic surgeon, performing breast reconstructive surgeries on women who'd had full mastectomies due to breast cancer. explains to some extent why things are not getting better and why, if we care about reducing our risk of cancer, diabetes, obesity, dementia, we must take responsibility for our own health.
It's not that the majority of health professionals are part of some great conspiracy, it's that, for the most part, anyone who wants to progress in medicine, has to follow the consensus medical opinion and if that is promoting the best interests of the drug industry (and they support most of the research/training) it's inevitable that is the direction they will be obliged to follow.
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I saw that too. I'm surprised you joined, Saved. I have to agree with Jim. If those people were able to accept the value of naturopathic cancer treatments, they wouldn't be signed up to that forum. Brick...wall...head!

I'm just wondering how long it'll be before they ban you?! If you get to 5 posts it'll be a miracle!

The allopathic cancer treatment is a triumph of marketing. 'Our way is the only way' has become ingrained as fact in so many people's minds for so long. I don't blame people for being sceptical at first (re- naturopathic treatments).
But, things are changing. More and more people are hearing of the wonders of naturopathic cancer treatments.
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Old 01-14-2012, 08:05 AM
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I saw that too. I'm surprised you joined, Saved. I have to agree with Jim. If those people were able to accept the value of naturopathic cancer treatments, they wouldn't be signed up to that forum. Brick...wall...head!

I'm just wondering how long it'll be before they ban you?! If you get to 5 posts it'll be a miracle!

The allopathic cancer treatment is a triumph of marketing. 'Our way is the only way' has become ingrained as fact in so many people's minds for so long. I don't blame people for being sceptical at first (re- naturopathic treatments).
But, things are changing. More and more people are hearing of the wonders of naturopathic cancer treatments.

I am posting naturopathic and alternative info. Any trolling will be a blitzkreig and will be later if they ban me.
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Old 01-14-2012, 09:58 AM
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I was not even trying to get banned, but was desiring meaningful dialogue

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I had 6 posts on that board and 4 were removed. There was nothing nasty about them. I discussed Vit C, laetrile FuZeng therapy. jesus, they are touchy over there.
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Sorry to hear that Saved. Though not surprised.

My take is that people have the right to know about ALL treatments -allopathic and naturopathic, and the right to choose whichever treatment they feel comfortable with.

Most of the major natural treatments go back scores of years, with thousands of cures to their names. And that speaks for itself.

To know this great knowledge is a blessing. To be able to disseminate it to others is also a blessing, twofold.
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Sorry to hear that Saved. Though not surprised.

My take is that people have the right to know about ALL treatments -allopathic and naturopathic, and the right to choose whichever treatment they feel comfortable with.

Most of the major natural treatments go back scores of years, with thousands of cures to their names. And that speaks for itself.

To know this great knowledge is a blessing. To be able to disseminate it to others is also a blessing, twofold.
Knight: I have learned that people in general are not open minded and not open to alternative treatments. I found this board while looking for alternative treatments for my dad. I was initially on an emphysema/copd board and was asking about alternative treatments and was banned. About a yr ago I trolled the hell out of the place and had a trolling partner and the board owner went ballistic.
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What the Hell, I joined as well, only I don't promise being polite.

I did not appreciate being called stupid, even though I'm quite sure he was refering to everyone in general here at Natmedtalk.

I left them with something to bite on..
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Old 01-14-2012, 08:17 PM
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PINBALL Good job holmes!

Joe 7, or is it Bill5? I was actually disappointed when you got banned from the natmed site, however, looking back now, you deserved it. Your attitude sucked.

Having said that, try googling the list of things that cause cancer and you'll find both chemo and radiation on that list. This is a government list, not something that is made up by me.

I have never been diagnosed with cancer, however my mom was, back in the mid 1990's. She had several rounds of chemo and radiation, but they did not help. She died 62 months after being diagnosed with lung cancer. I am convinced that her "treatments" killed her sooner than if she had nothing at all. You all can believe whatever you want, but the truth is you can't burn or poison a body back to health.

On the flip side, and again I don't expect any of you to believe any of this, I do know of some natural treatments that can cure cancers of all kinds, and wish I had this information when my mom was still alive. (Since she lived for 5 years after being diagnosed, she is considered to be a cancer survivor. However, I think survivors should be above ground)

There were several doctors in the past who cured thousands of cancer patients without nasty side effects, but I won't even go into that. I'll just talk about a couple of products that you can research if you are interested, and if not, you've lost nothing.

The first is essiac, which is a combination of four herbs, and is named for the nurse who discovered it. (nurse caisse, which is essiac spelled backwards). Do a little research on her.

My all time favourite cancer cure is hemp oil... not the crap that you buy at Walmart, but real hemp oil that contains THC, and it is the THC that cures any condition that causes cell mutation, including cancers. Do some research on this if you want, but don't just shrug it off for no reason. If its scientific proof you want, you have to search for it. Its there, but its not out in the open.

You know how many times I heard someone went into remission after chemo and radiation treatments only to have the cancer return within a short time? Another question I have is if chemo and radiation are good cancer treatments, then why is cancer now the leading cause of death?

Chemotherapy is a war between the doctors and the cancer, with the patient as the battlefield.

I wish you all good luck. PBD


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Well I have exchanged posts with Joe7 or Bill5, and I don't expect to be there very long as this guy has a serious attitude problem.

Apparently his girlfriend was diagnosed with cancer a short time ago and he can't deal with it.

It must be crappy to not even consider natural treatments, and totally rely on the mainstream medical system for help. That is like puting the fox in charge of the hen house.

You can't help people who don't want to be helped. Oh well, I don't feel sorry for him because his attitude sucks, and I told him so..
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