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Old 06-11-2011, 07:16 PM
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Question Baking soda and maple syrup cancer cure?

Has anyone heard of this? I was recently diagnosed with cervical dysplasia and I want to boost my immune system and starve the cancer cells. I read a lot abut it and it does make sense, so I'm going to give it a go!

You're supposed to heat the maple syrup and baking powder for a few minutes before consuming, but can you just add boiling water and stir? Would that effectively bind the components?
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Old 06-12-2011, 05:02 AM
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Sweetheart, I'd like to warn you to stay the h*ll away from maple syrup and any other kind of sugar concoction with baking soda. I personally know a man who was using this on a "doctor's" recommendation and was dead in less than two months. Baking soda by itself is effective. I have used it to cure my bladder cancer.
Cancer doctors, though, want you to use "sugar" so it will kill you and the word will get around that people should go only to doctors. Heating baking soda destroys it at a very low temperature. Adding boiling water certainly will. What is left is useless.
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The original protocol used molasses. It also gave the reason for the need for sugar. Although I don't propose this protocol, I did research it to try to determine why it works. At least it worked for 2 people. See my blog here at NatMedTalk.

This is the original protocol. http://phkillscancer.com/protocol

As far as I can determine, it does not work for all cancers. Some cancers are internally alkaline but others are not. All cancers produce acid as part of the fermentation process. This is why so many believe that alkaline environment is the answer. I do not. The protocol requires that the alkalinity actually get to the cancer. Your body will fight this process all along the way, because it has over 200 mechanisms to keep the pH in a narrow range. The digestive system might not be the best route.

I know you want to address your problem quickly, but please take some time to read this web site. http://www.cancertutor.com/index.html
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If I had cervical dysplasia I would douche with Lugol's iodine as well as take it orally.
Cervial dysplasia is not cancer and many times it just goes away. It is caused by the HPV virus. It is also well treated with ozone insufflation. MMS orally is another option. I would also seek out the help from a Naturopathic doctor. I would not choose baking soda for this condition.

http://alternativecancer.us/ozone.htm

http://www.sisterzeus.com/dysplasia.html
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Sweetheart, I'd like to warn you to stay the h*ll away from maple syrup and any other kind of sugar concoction with baking soda. I personally know a man who was using this on a "doctor's" recommendation and was dead in less than two months. Baking soda by itself is effective. I have used it to cure my bladder cancer.
Cancer doctors, though, want you to use "sugar" so it will kill you and the word will get around that people should go only to doctors. Heating baking soda destroys it at a very low temperature. Adding boiling water certainly will. What is left is useless.
Are you sure? The baking soda binds with the syrup when heated, and because cancer loves glucose, it goes straight to the site of the tumor.

That's just what I've read though. I need some solid information...
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According to the Hand Book of Chemistry and Physics baking soda decomposes at 120 degrees F which is only 21 degrees above body temperature. There fore heating baking soda only slightly totally destroys it. So in the heated recommended concoction of maple syrup and baking soda what one has left is only sugar to cure the cancer which does just the opposite. It causes the cancer to proliferate.

I would listen to Arrowwind09. She has been a nurse and is very knowledgeable.
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If I had cervical dysplasia I would douche with Lugol's iodine as well as take it orally.
Cervial dysplasia is not cancer and many times it just goes away. It is caused by the HPV virus. It is also well treated with ozone insufflation. MMS orally is another option. I would also seek out the help from a Naturopathic doctor. I would not choose baking soda for this condition.

http://alternativecancer.us/ozone.htm

http://www.sisterzeus.com/dysplasia.html
Thanks for those links! Very helpful stuff.
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Heating baking soda destroys it at a very low temperature. Adding boiling water certainly will. What is left is useless.
That's not the way it works. To say nothing about the effectiveness of this protocol (which is an uncertain, but promising subject), that's not the way NaHCO3 thermally decomps (not a subject of uncertainty). It changes into sodium carbonate by losing an H+. Behold:

2NaHCO3 (sodium bicarb) ==> Na2CO3 (sodium carb) + H2O (water) + CO2 (carbon dioxide)

Sodium carbonate is actually MORE alkaline than sodium bicarb (a reason to be a little careful). When you mix it with stomach acid, the first thing it does is turn back to sodium bicarb and salt:

Na2CO3 (sodium carb) + HCl (hydrochloric acid) ==> NaHCO3 (sodium bicarb) + NaCl (table salt)

So, thermal decomposition =/= vanish into thin air. It actually increases it's pH, for better or worse.

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That's not the way it works. To say nothing about the effectiveness of this protocol (which is an uncertain, but promising subject), that's not the way NaHCO3 thermally decomps (not a subject of uncertainty). It changes into sodium carbonate by losing an H+. Behold:

2NaHCO3 (sodium bicarb) ==> Na2CO3 (sodium carb) + H2O (water) + CO2 (carbon dioxide)

Sodium carbonate is actually MORE alkaline than sodium bicarb (a reason to be a little careful). When you mix it with stomach acid, the first thing it does is turn back to sodium bicarb and salt:

Na2CO3 (sodium carb) + HCl (hydrochloric acid) ==> NaHCO3 (sodium bicarb) + NaCl (table salt)

So, thermal decomposition =/= vanish into thin air. It actually increases it's pH, for better or worse.

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Now what if pharma grade sodium bicarbonate and maple syrup were mixed as per the protocol, then inserted into enteric coated capsules, thus allowing the capsules to bypass the stomach acid and open in the intestines, then absorbed into the blood..

...and since it is the high alkaline ingredient that kills the cancer cells, (or fungus) sodium carbonate would be a good choice.

Personally, I would use colloidal silver both internally and externally if I were the origional poster of this thread, and was a woman. (which I'm not)
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Careful with that "more alkaline is always better" mentality. Sodium carbonate has a pH of like 10 or more and might upset other systems if you just bomb yourself with it, bypassing the stomach. I'm not saying it would necessarily be bad, but I also don't know what it would do. Plus you've potentiated the whole thing, one, by putting it in a capsule and two, using the more alkaline sodium carbonate than sodium bicarbonate.

Not an expert on this treatment, it's permutations or even the chemical processes behind it. I just wanted to correct for the misinterpretation of what thermal decomposition means in this context.

PS Your doctor is probably not trying to kill you on purpose as was implied. My buddy is going to med school now. Though they have a stunning lack of knowledge of anything outside the realm of acute pathology and physical trauma, he hasn't mentioned any misanthropic or homicidal curriculum. That's all big pharma's job.
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Sodium carbonate has a pH of like 10 or more and might upset other systems if you just bomb yourself with it, bypassing the stomach.
There is a doctor in Italy who has been curing cancers with baking soda for years now. I can only imagine how he is being treated by his peers, however, aside from that, what he does is discover where the tumor is and what blood vessel supplies that tumor, then injects the patient with the baking soda solution directly into that blood supply. The tumor shrinks, and in most cases disappears in short order.


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Your doctor is probably not trying to kill you on purpose as was implied.
Doctors kill through prescription drugs, and I don't see any big changes in the younger generation of MD's. Yes they are well educated, however they no little about nutrition, herbs, or supplements, and are only interested in treating the symptoms, not eliminating the cause.

The names of the people who died in the last 5 years from taking their medication as prescribed, in the prescribed amount, would not even fit on this page, and the worst part is there aren't any changes coming any time soon. This tells me that big pharma controls health, or should I say sickness, and there is no profit to be made from healthy people.
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Doctors kill through prescription drugs, and I don't see any big changes in the younger generation of MD's. Yes they are well educated, however they no little about nutrition, herbs, or supplements, and are only interested in treating the symptoms, not eliminating the cause.

The names of the people who died in the last 5 years from taking their medication as prescribed, in the prescribed amount, would not even fit on this page, and the worst part is there aren't any changes coming any time soon. This tells me that big pharma controls health, or should I say sickness, and there is no profit to be made from healthy people.
This much is known. I was just taking about the implication that the doctor originally in question was INTENTIONALLY giving bad medical advice with intent to harm. This is not the case. It's just a combination of ignorance and "the bottom line."
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