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Can anyone tell me the dosages to set up sodium bicarb in a nebulizer for inhalation? and what kind of fluid do you mix it with,
normal saline or plain water?
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Anyone? I'll keep searching because I want to know too.
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Dr Simoncini says one soupspoon in one liter of water with a certain type of fast flow something... I will have to look again... but what is a soupspoon?

and I want to use a nebulizer not whatever he was talking about
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When I was growing up, a soupspoon was a tablespoon... the regular spoon that you use with your fork was a teaspoon.... not sure if this is what he means, but thats what I remember
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I believe this article refers to using a regular nebulizer. A soupspoon is a tablespoon, I agree with just me. The link for this article was provided here on the forum by Nightowl, in her thread for nebulizing for the lungs. It's interesting, I may post it also in the Systems & Organs forum. I just re-read it, guess it's not a regular nebulizer, but fast inhaler?

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I'm looking into buying one but they range so much in price that I don't know what to look for.

Is this good?

http://justnebulizers.com/compressor...em-ne-c25.html

Is this better and worth the higher price?

http://justnebulizers.com/micro-air-...m-ne-u22v.html

I wanted one that had the capability to run off batteries if need be.

I appreciate help with this shopping purchase.
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It looks like you might have to spend more for one that also operates on batteries. I bought one a couple of years ago, just to have one for emergencies. It's still in the box, and I have not yet had to use it. Along with it I bought some Respiratory Support from GetHealthyAgain, which is a colloidal silver with a touch of hydrogen peroxide, made specifically for use in a nebulizer. Also some Mesosilver from Purest Colloids.

The one I chose at the time was an Omron NE-C25 CompAir XLT Desktop Compressor Nebulizer, a nice little compact unit, but doesn't seem to run on batteries. I bought it online from Southeastern Medical Supply, Inc. for at total price of $42.71 on 11-06-09.
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So for sodium bicarb if you have a prepackaged pharmaceutical vial of 8% it would be this:
Nebulized sodium bicarbonate should be used in concentrations of less than 2% (which generally means about a 4:1 dilution of standard 8% sodium bicarbonate).
Draw up 1 ml from the vial and dilute in your nebulizer cup with 3 ml of steril water or normal saline.

but since most people will not have access to this you would make a jar of 1 cup steril water with a tight sealing lid. Add 7.5 cc dry measure 1.5 teaspoons)of Bob's baking soda and fill the nebulizer to the fill line, generally about 5ml for most nebulizers and breath in. It will take about 30 minutes.

I don't know what kind of contraption Dr Simoncini was using.. to nebulize 1/2 liter is a lot of volume and there is no way that you would inhale any where near all of that...

knowing what a soupspoon is is everything!

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Now we have to figure out how many times a day this would be safe to do with bicarb for the lungs...
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Now we have to figure out how many times a day this would be safe to do with bicarb for the lungs...
Especially since this would bring them into an alkaline environment, if you are going to do this for a long duration as suggested by Simoncini.

I have used baking soda with colloidal silver in a nasal spray for sinuses. Does not seem to help. Even colloidal silver spray alone does not help. Nebulizing for my sinuses seems to work better than the spray, but I have not tried to add the baking soda. I don't understand why I should. Seems like it would be better to add grapefruit seed extract to kill pathogens. Even that sounds harsh.

I have the Pari unit. http://justnebulizers.com/manufacturer/pari.html It is table top, but only takes about 10 minutes. The hand held units are best for traveling, but the table tops are far more sturdy.
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Im not sure what kind of machine they are talking about, but with a normal nebulizer a treatment takes about ten minutes like jfh said. I cant imagine being on the thing for thirty minutes.

jfh, in one of my juicing books, they have a remedy for sinus/mucous issues, but Im not sure it would be something the normal person would want to try... it consist of grating up fresh horseradish root, mixing with a small amount of honey and lemon, and eating a spoonful of it... supposedly this mixture will wipe out all mucous from a body within a couple of applications... It does make you sweat, and definitly cleared the sinuses when I tried it, but man it was harsh.... One of those experiences of going from surely it cant be that bad, to I will never do that again!!!!
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Nebulizing can take up to 30 minutes if you fill the cup up to the fill line, which is about 5 to 6 cc.. most medication bullets are about 2.5 to 3 cc cc volume. cups can vary in size also.
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Nebulizing can take up to 30 minutes if you fill the cup up to the fill line, which is about 5 to 6 cc.. most medication bullets are about 2.5 to 3 cc cc volume. cups can vary in size also.
Perhaps it depends upon the nebulizer. Mine takes 3ml to the fill line. After about 10 minutes, it starts to gurgle, meaning that it is close to empty. The instructions say 9 minutes. I've heard testimony from asthmatics, that they are done at 6 minutes. But you can fill it back up immediately and keep going. The tube and the unit may get warmer than you are comfortable with.
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