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Old 01-29-2011, 10:07 AM
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How much is it costing you boots?
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Old 01-29-2011, 10:20 AM
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boots, if you can't get allimax, I think eating copios amounts of raw crushed garlic will do the same thing. I know it sucks, but it is an option.

lovelife, have you been doing any of the prostate massages? I think they are key to helping beat the infection. Its hard to get fresh blood into the prostate, and its kind of like a sponge with lots of little chambers. Bacteria, fungus, or any pathogens can hold up in these chambers and hide from what ever your blood is carrying to destroy them, ie allicin. I have read lots that when you massage it, you stimulate new fresh blood flow, as well as break up pathogen infiltrated areas of the prostate. I know my wording is less then technical, but you get the idea.

I am starting to wonder if it is my prostate that is causing my problem. I don't get any discharge like most of you guys. I don't have any pain in the perianum area. My testicles are redder and seem to hang looser and feel heavier then normal, does anyone else notice this?

My symptoms got real bad on thursday, I felt like I had to urinate almost all day, but everytime I went I could barely dribble anything out. My cats claw, and cayenne pepper pills came in that day and I started using them. My symptoms started to improve a bit, not sure if that is what helped.

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Does anyone else notice more bubbles or foam in their urine?
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Old 01-29-2011, 08:04 PM
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How much is it costing you boots?
i can get 2 packs of 90 allicin max AU $62.19 +AU $4.77 postage
but there out of stock

i got allimax 2 packs of 30 cost $40 inc post
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Old 01-30-2011, 12:10 AM
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hey i had help with sulfa trim and allicin at day 3-4 by day 10 i was milder but heading back backwards. i too was hoping for the synergy effect that iwillbecured posted from our old forum. as you said they started to beat this treatment. i had a big break through with magnesium. it helped sooth the pain. when my abx ran out i started to feel bad againb but not like before. i was scared and thought i might get worse. i take 12 allicin a day but it is not cheap and dont know if i would go for more. your post makes me think to bite the big bullet and get some more. glad you are getting better. i had it bad after cipro for 8 weeks. i too have discharge after urinating. clear and not like foam or coloured. so if allicin works we are in luck. the theory is maybe we should do the massage and help the allicin get in the prostate kegel and ejaculate to get fresh blood and fluid in the prostate the best we can. i am on so much its hard to gage what is working for me. it may be allicin related so i may up the doseage and report back. i am done 380 pills already. i think you can do the whole bottle and not have a problem. so i might do 40-50 a day and see if that works.
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Old 01-30-2011, 11:18 AM
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boots, if you can't get allimax, I think eating copios amounts of raw crushed garlic will do the same thing. I know it sucks, but it is an option.

lovelife, have you been doing any of the prostate massages? I think they are key to helping beat the infection. Its hard to get fresh blood into the prostate, and its kind of like a sponge with lots of little chambers. Bacteria, fungus, or any pathogens can hold up in these chambers and hide from what ever your blood is carrying to destroy them, ie allicin. I have read lots that when you massage it, you stimulate new fresh blood flow, as well as break up pathogen infiltrated areas of the prostate. I know my wording is less then technical, but you get the idea.

I am starting to wonder if it is my prostate that is causing my problem. I don't get any discharge like most of you guys. I don't have any pain in the perianum area. My testicles are redder and seem to hang looser and feel heavier then normal, does anyone else notice this?

My symptoms got real bad on thursday, I felt like I had to urinate almost all day, but everytime I went I could barely dribble anything out. My cats claw, and cayenne pepper pills came in that day and I started using them. My symptoms started to improve a bit, not sure if that is what helped.
I am not at that stage yet but I did have a massage for six weeks with doxy about 12 years ago and it did nothing.This treatment is doing more.I have a urologist apointment in March its probably going to be a waste of time.
I am not sure today if I have gone as far as I can with allicin.It does not seem to be able to completely cure it yet but I am a lot better than I was a month ago.
Not sure If I am going to try silver water yet,I found a guy in the uk who makes his own and he would sell me some.
I cant beleive nothing has changed in nearly 15 years ,they just dont seem to want to get more advanced in treatment with this thing.
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Old 01-30-2011, 11:31 AM
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hey i had help with sulfa trim and allicin at day 3-4 by day 10 i was milder but heading back backwards. i too was hoping for the synergy effect that iwillbecured posted from our old forum. as you said they started to beat this treatment. i had a big break through with magnesium. it helped sooth the pain. when my abx ran out i started to feel bad againb but not like before. i was scared and thought i might get worse. i take 12 allicin a day but it is not cheap and dont know if i would go for more. your post makes me think to bite the big bullet and get some more. glad you are getting better. i had it bad after cipro for 8 weeks. i too have discharge after urinating. clear and not like foam or coloured. so if allicin works we are in luck. the theory is maybe we should do the massage and help the allicin get in the prostate kegel and ejaculate to get fresh blood and fluid in the prostate the best we can. i am on so much its hard to gage what is working for me. it may be allicin related so i may up the doseage and report back. i am done 380 pills already. i think you can do the whole bottle and not have a problem. so i might do 40-50 a day and see if that works.
I think 20 a day is enough but no less.I am a big tall guy and I think 20 a day is working as good.
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Old 01-30-2011, 11:35 AM
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jofus i too have had bubbly urine at times. sometime shockingly. i asked around i search the internet but all i could find really was dehydrtion to be the cause. i think it is more than just that.

i too believe in the massage theory. a guy has dedicated a extensive web site to it, not only that but it seems logical too.

i would think that we suffer enough so get over western views its therapy and try it with all treatment plans. i know i feel better after doing it. more relieved less swelling more blood in my testicals and shaft.
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Old 01-30-2011, 12:01 PM
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I have read that foamy urine has to do with the kidneys excreteing protien. It is sometimes a sign of kidney problems. I believe it has to do with what our bodys are fighting, and stuff that is getting flushed out of the system. I am glad to here I am not the only one, as I have never seen it as a symptom of prostate issues on any of the sites I have visted.

That William guy that has the prostate massage website is a lifesaver if this all works, I am inclined to thank him personaly. I am fed up with western medice. Last week I just got a refusal letter from the urologist that my first doctor refered me to. It says I probably have some chronic testicle pain or something and I should go to a chronic pain support goup. WOW, didn't even see me, my only treatment was anti-boitics and my only tests were for std's and an ultra sound of my testicles. No tests of my bladder, kiddneys, prostate. No blood in urine tests, no other bacterial cultures. They really tried hard. I am under thirty and healthy in every other regard, and they just say " o well anti-boitics didn't work, so you have chronic pain syndrom caused by nothing and no treatment except pain killers and support groups". That makes me very upset, and I am glad I had already found new doctor before I waited for that letter. First thing he did was send me for blood and urine tests, and set up an ultra sound of my kidneys, bladder and pelvic area. He also checked my prostate first visit. I feel bad for people that just take what the doctor tells them as fact, and don't realize that they are not right all the time. Infact the stats are probably simmilar to the weatherman being correct.
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Old 01-30-2011, 12:17 PM
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agreed jofus. i had bad doctors too that most like made this problem worse. i was given 8 weeks cipro when i had no issues. i got sick while the last week was wrappping up and by the 9 th i was severe. strengthened bacteria? poisoned my prostate? i dont know.

my hair is falling out and i have no baldness on either side. i had lots of hair before my first mild issue over a year ago.

i think massage works for some more than others. when i was severe it sometimes caused problems but i was i so much pain. i think it pushes out toxic poison down your penis or bacteria and that made my penis hurt even more.

i think i gave up too early and am now finding it helps more and more. i do it 1 to 2 times a day. i need too.

i too had a doctor tell me he wouldtreat me. i have just had my uro who i believe is responsible try and get my to see one of his staff. he is the head of the biggest hospital in my city. he also wants to get me to see a doctor about food allergies. anything to get you out of their door. these people dont like to fail or hear they arent doing their jobs. they also dont like to do the tests. wll if you dont want to work with butt holes semen penises testicals dont be a urologist! like really! be a fukcin eye doctor! tests are the most important so we get the right abx the 1st fn time!
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Old 01-31-2011, 06:32 PM
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Does anyone know where I can get allicinmax in the states cuz with shiping I'm paying close to 30bucks a pill I have been feeling a lil better as of late dont if its the aliicin or the probiotics I'm out of allicinmax yesterday was my last got more on the way but it takes days to get here dont want to go backwards
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im from the prostatitis forum too
i get clear fluid from the penis sometimes with bowl movements
but not puss
and bowl movements are by far the worst thing for making my symptoms start

hi boots.

i wake up with no pain at all and than after bowl movement the symptoms start.

it usually starts about 1 to 2 hours after bowl movement.

also i have clear fluid sometimes after bowl movement. this is prostate fluid i think.

it seems we have similar symptoms
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Has anyone tried the broccoli protocol. I am going to start tomorrow morning. If you goggle broccoli protocol prostatitis you can find it easy.
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Old 02-01-2011, 08:14 PM
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i ate a lot of broccoli, i juiced it, i boiled it and i ate it raw. it gave some relief but i would add it to the list but..... i tried watermelon rine too. juiced it. not as bad but maybe more for bladder infections. i hope it works for you jofus. i was severe so nothing really helped as much as diet and time. i did find broccoli to be more powerful than watermelon and gave something. i liked it raw with olive oil and sea salt or himilayan salt.
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