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Old 12-27-2010, 08:10 PM
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In my own quest to fix a health issue I found this.



http://hubpages.com/hub/What-Lamisil...to-cure-herpes

He basically says that 90% of diagnosed "herpes", are actually symptons caused by a fungus, not virus. He also says that more often then not, you can cure "herpes" with Lamisil.
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Old 12-28-2010, 05:58 AM
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Do not! Do Not! Do NOt! take Lamisil. It will destroy your liver. I know two people who lived to regret it.

For herpes look into prunella vulgaris, and mms has also helped some with it... and Pau De Arco is known for killing fungus.

Oh hee hee hee... thats the True Cures guy. He got banned from this forum a while back.

Herpes is viral. If a lesion does not test positive for virus then it is not herpes. There are many conditions that present like herpes.
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Old 12-28-2010, 06:04 AM
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Ok, I don't have herpes though, but I was going to take the Lamisil for my epididymitis.
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Do not! Do Not! Do NOt! take Lamisil. It will destroy your liver. I know two people who lived to regret it.
And kidneys. If Lamisil does not work within a short time, it sure should not be continued.
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It was prescribed as a 14 day course. I have not started it yet.
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There are several different "types" of herpes.

Epididymitis is not caused by bacteria, it is caused by a partner who has a yeast infection. (yeast is fungus)

Antifungals, such as colloidal silver, grapefruit seed extract, oregano oil, etc., will kill this fungus although it won't happen overnight.

There is no point in treating yourself just to be re-infected by your partner, thus, you both/all must take antifungals to clear this up.
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How long is sufficient pinballdoctor, are you saying two weeks or 6 months? I do not think that just because symtpoms are gone that the disease is gone.. Treatment generally takes much longer that most people think, escpecially for chonic stuff like this.

I had a friend who eliminated a host of pathogens with olive leaf, just ground, not extract,, she dosed daily for over 6 months. She tracked her progress with some kind of biomeridian device that could measure her pathogen load. It was impressive to watch the numbers go down over time. It changed her life. Turned her from a haggard old lady to a vibrant 70 year old. Most natural health providers say it should be extrected to 20% Oleuropean or close to it... but clearly the ground leave that is emensely less expensive works over time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olive_leaf_extract#Nutritional_and_medicinal_uses

Olive leaf is good for fungus also.

I called an old friend today who both her and her husband have been dealing with candida for years now. They never get rid of it fully and something they pass it between each other.

She recommended this product to me as her husband uses it and his yeast is very chronic and pervasive and he finds that it really knocks it back well. I suggested to her that he may need to be on it for 6 months to a year. He has only done one bottle when things get bad. I am only familiar with 2 herbs in it, the pau d arco and the graviola.
http://www.rain-tree.com/amazon-antifungal-support.htm

So should men be treated even if they have no symptoms? anyone know?
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How long is sufficient pinballdoctor, are you saying two weeks or 6 months?

I'm saying every day.

Natural antifungals should be part of the diet, everything from carrot juice to coconut oil.

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I do not think that just because symtpoms are gone that the disease is gone
This is absolutely true, and all the more reason to make antifungals part of the daily diet.


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Olive leaf is good for fungus also.

Olive leaf is an excellent antifungal, as is olive oil, in fact it is one of the best. However, after alot of research on the subject, it is my opinion that the whole olive leaf be used in the manufacture of the extract. This is mainly due to all of the phytonutrients working in a synergistic manner.


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I called an old friend today who both her and her husband have been dealing with candida for years now. They never get rid of it fully and something they pass it between each other.
They keep infecting each other.

In this case, I would suggest Nystatin for the both of them. Once the yeast is under control, they could use natural antifungals such as olive leaf extract, coconut oil, resveratrol, etc.. There are many good natural antifungals.


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So should men be treated even if they have no symptoms? anyone know?


Yes!

It takes several years to develop prostate issues. Antifungals can eliminate the problems before they occur.

On a final note, many men die with prostate cancer, but not from it.
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Pinballdoc, why don't you come on over and have a talk with my husband.

I know he's not going to like it hearing it from me.
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I thought that Epididymitis is bacterial, and is commonly an STD. I have not read that it is virus or fungus related.
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I thought that Epididymitis is bacterial, and is commonly an STD. I have not read that it is virus or fungus related.
Google it, and you will find many men who have not been able to treat it with antibiotics. I have it and was tested negative for STD's. It seems that orginaly it was thought to be caused by chlamydia or gonnhrea, but I don't think that this is always the case, from my personal research.
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I thought that Epididymitis is bacterial, and is commonly an STD. I have not read that it is virus or fungus related.
I am assuming that epididymitis is a basket diagnosis.

actually the word means inflammation of the epididymis.

I would think that previously to 1960 or there abouts most cases of epididymitis were caused by bacteria... but now, since the use of antibiotics, and especially the overuse, and who knows where to draw that fine line, more cases are caused by other micro-organisms, including fungus..

Now if you get into learning about dark field microscopy, you will find that there are a multitude of organisms that could cause problems, other than te readily recognized bacteria and the less addressed fungi. Once the terrain is disturbed sufficiently by drug use no telling what can happen and the conventional and even the naturopathic community do not have a scientific grip on how to contend with it all... and diagnositics for fungi is woefully undeveloped. topical infections 95% of the time it is done by visual diagnosis or a desperate guess. If it is blood borne it is a bit easier. But then there is the internal fungal infection, deep within tissues and not necessarily seen topically. This is the most difficult to diagnose and after repeated failures of antibiotics one might assume that it is fungal

I have seen many blood borne fungal infections in hospital...as well as harbored in lungs and diagnosed through sputum culture, they are very difficult and they do have some very high powered antifungals for them these days... but before it became blood borne I often wonder where the foci of the infection resides... is it only the blood or some hidden crevice of the body that had finally sufficiently broken down in defense to allow it to enter the blood stream?

As a nurse I became very good at it determining topical fungal infections and many doctors acquiseced to my judgement and prescribed upon it, accurately, I might say. Many doctors do not recognize a topical fungal infection for what it, never mind the less obvious, with in internal tissues... take for example leaky gut sydrome... but it may arise anywhere.... I've even seen doctors that are almost indifferent to their presence.

and hey, are not many of us realizing that these hidden fungal foci could be the cause of cancer?
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I am assuming that epididymitis is a basket diagnosis.

actually the word means inflammation of the epididymis.

I would think that previously to 1960 or there abouts most cases of epididymitis were caused by bacteria... but now, since the use of antibiotics, and especially the overuse, and who knows where to draw that fine line, more cases are caused by other micro-organisms, including fungus..

Now if you get into learning about dark field microscopy, you will find that there are a multitude of organisms that could cause problems, other than te readily recognized bacteria and the less addressed fungi. Once the terrain is disturbed sufficiently by drug use no telling what can happen and the conventional and even the naturopathic community do not have a scientific grip on how to contend with it all... and diagnositics for fungi is woefully undeveloped. topical infections 95% of the time it is done by visual diagnosis or a desperate guess. If it is blood borne it is a bit easier. But then there is the internal fungal infection, deep within tissues and not necessarily seen topically. This is the most difficult to diagnose and after repeated failures of antibiotics one might assume that it is fungal

I have seen many blood borne fungal infections in hospital... they are very difficult and they do have some very high powered antifungals for them these days... but before it became blood borne I often wonder where the foci of the infection resides... is it only the blood or some hidden crevice of the body that had finally sufficiently broken down in defense to allow it to enter the blood stream?

As a nurse I became very good at it and many doctors acquiseced to my judgement and prescribed upon it, accurately, I might say. Many doctors do not recognize a topical fungal infection for what it, never mind the less obvious, with in internal tissues... take for example leaky gut sydrome... but it may arise anywhere.... I've even seen doctors that are almost indifferent to their presence.

and hey, are not many of us realizing that these hidden fungal foci could be the cause of cancer?
Thats what I ment.
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I am assuming that epididymitis is a basket diagnosis.

actually the word means inflammation of the epididymis.

I would think that previously to 1960 or there abouts most cases of epididymitis were caused by bacteria... but now, since the use of antibiotics, and especially the overuse, and who knows where to draw that fine line, more cases are caused by other micro-organisms, including fungus..

Now if you get into learning about dark field microscopy, you will find that there are a multitude of organisms that could cause problems, other than te readily recognized bacteria and the less addressed fungi. Once the terrain is disturbed sufficiently by drug use no telling what can happen and the conventional and even the naturopathic community do not have a scientific grip on how to contend with it all... and diagnositics for fungi is woefully undeveloped. topical infections 95% of the time it is done by visual diagnosis or a desperate guess. If it is blood borne it is a bit easier. But then there is the internal fungal infection, deep within tissues and not necessarily seen topically. This is the most difficult to diagnose and after repeated failures of antibiotics one might assume that it is fungal

I have seen many blood borne fungal infections in hospital...as well as harbored in lungs and diagnosed through sputum culture, they are very difficult and they do have some very high powered antifungals for them these days... but before it became blood borne I often wonder where the foci of the infection resides... is it only the blood or some hidden crevice of the body that had finally sufficiently broken down in defense to allow it to enter the blood stream?

As a nurse I became very good at it determining topical fungal infections and many doctors acquiseced to my judgement and prescribed upon it, accurately, I might say. Many doctors do not recognize a topical fungal infection for what it, never mind the less obvious, with in internal tissues... take for example leaky gut sydrome... but it may arise anywhere.... I've even seen doctors that are almost indifferent to their presence.

and hey, are not many of us realizing that these hidden fungal foci could be the cause of cancer?
Nice post.
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Took lamisil and lufenuron all symptoms gone within 6 weeks and tested negative a month after completing 90 day course. Don't believe that lamisil harms the liver it's actually the fungus dying that is hard on the liver. My doctor took a liver panel before and after and there was no change in enzymes before treatment and a month after. The truth shall set you free
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