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She said he wa snot that bad and kidney function does decline with age and for age group he is doing quite well.

She said for him not to take any NSAIDs and do not eat a very high protein diet.

LOTTERY JACKPOT! : She said the supplements I was giving him (C, E, Cordyceps, CoQ10, high dose fish oil, D, occaisional magnesium, turmeric) where totally acceptable and may be beneficial to the kidneys beacuse they are all great for the blood vessels and to keep giving them to him. She was from Lebanon and said to make sure he gets plenty of olive oil.
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  1. David C Says:
    July 29th, 2010 at 5:09 pme I had kidney failure and kidney function of only 10% I was keen to go onto Dialysis as I had been feeling bad for sometime. I came across MMS and read all the detail and wanted to have a normal life and not Dialising three days a week.
    So I started the MMS protocol and could not believe the improvment, My Kidney specialist was amazed with the new results he said that he had never seen kidneys improve like this before,my kidneys have improved back to where they were four years earlier and still improving. I cannot wait for my next visit to my specialist to find out where my Kidneys are at now.
    I cannot speak highly enough about this product, I will be recomending it to all my family and friends.
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I see a lot of faith in MMS on this board, but as a chemist I am leary of giving someone a chlorine dioxide solution.
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Any particular reason from the chemistry point of view?

I used it for the same reason you are leery of it. It is a selective oxidizer of pathogens. An antibiotic is not nearly as selective when killing a pathogen, usually with some known risks and possible side effects.

I can't say I was not leery of it either, but after a few thousand people use it, and many have good results, it is hard to find many reasons not to use it. Especially for conditions that do not seem to respond much to other treatments.

It worked exceptionally well for my Crohn's disease, and while not many people have used it for this disease, the ones that have report remarkable improvement. This is not a disease that has a lot of treatments that can produce that result.

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Any particular reason from the chemistry point of view?

I used it for the same reason you are leery of it. It is a selective oxidizer of pathogens. An antibiotic is not nearly as selective when killing a pathogen, usually with some known risks and possible side effects.

I can't say I was not leery of it either, but after a few thousand people use it, and many have good results, it is hard to find many reasons not to use it. Especially for conditions that do not seem to respond much to other treatments.

It worked exceptionally well for my Crohn's disease, and while not many people have used it for this disease, the ones that have report remarkable improvement. This is not a disease that has a lot of treatments that can produce that result.

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U.S. National Drinking Water Standards and Health Criteria

µg/L unless noted Maximum Contaminant Level (MCL)800.0Notes: H4 Maximum Contaminant Level Goal (MCLG)800.0Notes: H4 One Day Exposure Health Advisory Level800.0 Ten Day Exposure Health Advisory Level800.0 Lifetime Exposure Health Advisory Level800.0 Reference Dose30.0 (µg/kg/day) U.S. Drinking Water Equivalent Level1,000


1 ppm appears to be the max amount allowed in drinking water. I do not trust taking this stuff at all.
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She said he wa snot that bad and kidney function does decline with age and for age group he is doing quite well.

She said for him not to take any NSAIDs and do not eat a very high protein diet.

LOTTERY JACKPOT! : She said the supplements I was giving him (C, E, Cordyceps, CoQ10, high dose fish oil, D, occaisional magnesium, turmeric) where totally acceptable and may be beneficial to the kidneys beacuse they are all great for the blood vessels and to keep giving them to him. She was from Lebanon and said to make sure he gets plenty of olive oil.
AWESOME news, that is great to hear!
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AWESOME news, that is great to hear!
THANKS

Also, (occasionally) I give him a multi called pharmaton. Available everywhere, except the US of course. Conatins a standardized ginseng extract.
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I give him a multi called pharmaton.
I would also include a high potency resveratrol extract as well as a green tea extract. They will provide additional benefit.
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I would also include a high potency resveratrol extract as well as a green tea extract. They will provide additional benefit.

I give him resveratrol occasionally (I need to get some more). And after reading this, I am pulling out the green tea and he will have some with lunch.
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U.S. National Drinking Water Standards and Health Criteria

µg/L unless noted Maximum Contaminant Level (MCL)800.0Notes: H4 Maximum Contaminant Level Goal (MCLG)800.0Notes: H4 One Day Exposure Health Advisory Level800.0 Ten Day Exposure Health Advisory Level800.0 Lifetime Exposure Health Advisory Level800.0 Reference Dose30.0 (µg/kg/day) U.S. Drinking Water Equivalent Level1,000


1 ppm appears to be the max amount allowed in drinking water. I do not trust taking this stuff at all.
I understand and can appreciate your concern over MMS but you need to consider the source.
Are these not the same people who say it is OK to add fluoride in the water? And now saying that we need to add lithium to help people control their mood swings.
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Drinking water is also used by anyone from pets, babies and the elderly, and on a daily basis for a life time. It also is used for showering, bathing, and several other things. The limit does need to be lower to account for any possibility.

For drinking water, the level needed to kill bacteria would probably be very low anyway, since there is no place for it to hide, and well water is pretty pure to begin with, and the bacteria involved is usually known. Water from other sources may be a different matter.

I do not think MMS is risk free, but I do consider it a low risk treatment, if done sensibly.

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And now saying that we need to add lithium to help people control their mood swings.
OMG!!!!

This is really really dangerous!

They intend to make zombies of us all, derranging our minds with chemicals mandated by the state, or county or city. Forced medication.

Oh well. The USA is on the verge of becoming one huge insane asylum anyway... psychosis, depression, pms, ADD, ADHD, premature puberty with personality disorder, road rage, neurosis, bullying, borderline personality disorder, early onset alzheimers.

Why would anyone believe what any government or medical agency has to say without doing critical research on their own.

Leave it to the government to screw with every part of you that they possibly can. They cure nothing. They nourish nothing... and I think they wish you out of the work force, off the food chain, and declining social security due to early death.

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I do not think MMS is risk free, but I do consider it a low risk treatment, if done sensibly.

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Low risk and much more effective than most antibiotics, and less dangerous as there has been no indication that it deranges the system as antibiotics do nor cause resistant pathogens, as well as curing a broad spectrum of disease cause by virus and other unknown pathogens. Its the only chance many many people have, if they only knew about it.

With all the people who have done MMS and had blood work along the way no pathogenic results have been seen in lab values... with many antibiotics given long term blood work is necessary to make sure the dam stuff isn't shutting down your liver or your kidneys or destroying your blood cells, and then we all know the fungal complications they create.
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The subject is mms.
If more folks knew about it, certainly then Big Pharna would take it off the air which they can easily do.
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Seems to me that MMS is here to stay one way or another, as well as MMS2. The product raw material is fairly easy to get. They will clamp down on information. I think that is about all they can do... as in Canada... having to be promoted as water purification drops only. Other sites will tell the whole story.

I recently watched a film based on the work of Jared Diamond, an anthropologist I think - named after his book, "Guns, Germs and Steel" which I read about 8 years ago.
Its a two part series from netflex. He goes to Africa and visits Zaire (sp?) to a hospital in one of its larger cities. There about 7 children die a DAY from malaria, mostly under the age of 5. Africa has a -1% growth, which keeps it in poverty. Families are constantly struggling with disease and death, be it HIV or Malaria.

Approximately 2555 children die in this one hospital a year from Malaria alone.
You see this scientist, while visiting the hospital and talking to the doctor, break down in tears.

The drugs no longer work for malaria, not that they ever worked very well. The World Health Organization has been made aware of MMS but refuses to use it even though it cures malaria in less than one day. They prefer children to die.

Makes you wonder about political and control agendas in the works by the New World Order, of which WHO is a master mind component on the health side of the program.

Now you can more fully understand Jim Humble's passion for his work in Africa, if you were not aware before.
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