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Question MMS and Bronchial Infection... HOW??

Hello, I am new here, I came searching for a forum to get some answers.
I started taking MMS on the 9th of April this year for my Asthma and a Bronchial infection. I had been given steroids that had really harmed my immune system and was ill with colds and flu like symptoms for almost 4 months. All is going well and by week 3 my Asthma had all but gone, however the last few days my Bronchial infection is really bad, although it seems different. Before MMS I would cough and cough and once every 100 coughs I may cough up a little phlegm and be ok for a moment. Now I am coughing up stuff with ease. Do I need to be worried at all?? Is this normal??
I am taking 3 drops every 2 hours for 10 hours a day (as stated in instructions that came with the MMS). Would a different dose be better??
I feel sick at the 4 drops so do not wish to exceed what my body can handle, but should I be boosting up??
Many Many Thanks, I am so glad I have found this forum.
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Do not increase your dosage. Where you are at is fine.

I cannot say for sure what is going on but asthama can have other symptoms than just wheezing. Clear white phelgm and cough can also be asthma.

But this I would ask you.
How is your energy level?
Are you feeling better or worse than when you started?
Are you able to do you daily tasks without difficulty?
Have active signs of infection like fever gone away?
Are you getting enough rest?

Do you have allergies? Could you be reacting to springtime pollens?
What makes you think you have a bronchial infection?
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Thankyou so much for your reply...
Do not increase your dosage. Where you are at is fine.

Great I am glad you said this... I will stay as I am then..

I cannot say for sure what is going on but asthama can have other symptoms than just wheezing. Clear white phelgm and cough can also be asthma.
My plelgm is clear, the odd bit of yellow/green.. it used to be all that colour all the time before MMS and now it is clear...
But this I would ask you.
How is your energy level? I feel better than I have in years.... Feeling great and waking naturally at 6am...??? and feeling alert and awake!

Are you feeling better or worse than when you started?

Way better, I guess I am only bothered because my chest is wheezing and tight again and this stupid cough is back, although like I said it is easier cause I cough up stuff with ease!!

Are you able to do you daily tasks without difficulty?
I could before this cough, but this is where is was like the Bronchial infection where just getting up makes me cough!! but other than the coughing and wheezing I am good at everything I need to do..

Have active signs of infection like fever gone away?
Oh yes... MMS kicked ass in the first week.. I had an awful sinus infection... GONE... and yes all fever gone now..

Are you getting enough rest?
I have a 4 year old.... probably not...lol but I try.. and I feel good..

Do you have allergies? Could you be reacting to springtime pollens?

I actually had hayfever for 20 + years and since MMS I only needed one tablet and that was yesterday as my throat was itching too much!! other than yesterday I have not taken one this spring at all... I normally start to take them in the february through to oct..


What makes you think you have a bronchial infection?
I had one back in january, which is when I got given the steroids, which I took, that destroyed my immune system and I got the infection back again... had more steroids (2 weeks after 1 st lot!) then did my research into why I was so ill with colds and sinus infections etc... since taking MMS it has cleared up, except for the last few days when I have the symptoms of the bronchial infection again... except it is easier to cough stuff up.... so if it is infection or MMS doing its job I have no idea... I watched a video of Jim Humble talking about asthma today after I put this post up and he said it will get worse... Thanks so much...


Oh I am still needing my inhaler, I have gone from more than 60 times a day to 2-10 times a day... but yesterday and today it has been about 20 times... will my inhaler interfere with MMS??
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Your inhaler will not interfere with mms.

I am not clear at all if mms will cure asthma. Jim Humble says it will but it has not for me. Different things cause asthma. If there is a microbe involved in one's asthma then it certainly may. Fact of the matter is most times the doctors are clueless as to what causes individual cases of asthma. For me I know it is from developing chemical sensitivity in the work place from the cleaning chemicals they used. Now I am pretty sensitive to chemicals and some pollens will make me cough too.... so mine is classified as reactive airway disease.

But I think other things can cause asthma in other people and for some people there is a stong emotional component. I have seen certain foods cause it for others. I do carry an inhaler but I have only used it a couple of times in about 5 years now, and two of those times was when I didn't have my homeopathic asthama med. You may want to try Tartaphedreel and you can get it at http://www.iherb.com/Heel-BHI-Tartep...-ml/10920?at=0 ... but I warn you....continue to carry your inhaler, and I mean forever! even if you don't seem to use it while using homeoapthics.

I would try doing castor oil packs on my chest at night or you could try vicks vapo rub packs. Applying moist heat on top will make it penetrate further.
Here is a link about castor oil packs: http://www.healthsalon.org/41/castor-oil-packs/ Keeping your secretions loose with asthma is a big help and when things get goopy and tight then you are predisposed to getting infection.

try to stay away from steroids if you can but I know it is not always possible. Were not the inhaled steroids doing it for you? That is preferable to shots I think but you gotta do what you gotta do to keep breathing.

I would just keep right on going with the MMS.... but I would not expect it to cure asthma... and if it does consider it an added bonus. You may also want to look into taking beta glucans as they will help to boost your immune system further. Transfer factor is a good one but spendy. There are others out there,
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I am speculating that you are ridding yourself of Chlamydia Pneumonia infection, and this is a pretty tough pathogen.

If what dose you are using is working, stick with it. High doses of MMS can be too hard of the Stomach, and then you run the risk of not being able to use it after a while.

I know someone else with your symptoms, and I will be attempting to rid her of this bacterium. I am not sure she has it, but I should be able to tell in short order. She has had similar medical treatments as you have had, and the same results.

Good Luck, and thank you for the detailed report.

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Ox-E drops which are 5% sodium chlorite sold by nzymes.com, they say you can use it ina nebulizer, here is the info they sent me....what do you think?

USING OX-E-DROPS WITH PNEUMONIA, BRONCHIAL OR RESPIRATORY CONDITIONS
(i.e., pneumonia, dog flu, congestion, breathing disorders, kennel cough, sneezing, asthma. bronchitis, wheezing, bacterial infections).

IMPORTANT NOTE: Internal usage of Ox-E-Drops Concentrate should be increased to 3 times daily during this illness. See the Oxy instructions for info on this.

MIXING THE OX-E SOLUTION FOR INHALANT METHODS:

USING A VAPORIZER: Mix 40 to 80 drops of Ox-E-Drops Concentrate with the one (1) gallon of water in a vaporizer. NOTE: Severity of the issue determines the drop count to add - severe pneumonia may warrant up to 80 drops, sneezing may only warrant 40 drops.
USING A NEBULIZER: Mix 6-8 DROPS of Ox-E-Drops Concentrate with each OUNCE of water for use in the nebulizer reservoir. For devices which use a small 'multi-CC' reservoir - you could obtain a common 2oz. plastic bottle from your local store to mix a supply for use in the reservoir (12-16 drops per 2-oz of water). NOTE: You can increase the concentration slightly for more resistant cases (use 10 drops per OZ.)

SEVERAL METHODS CAN BE USED:

Directions For People:
(Option A): Place the vaporizer on the night stand next to your side the bed and breathe the vapors overnight.
(Option B): Use a towel as a tent over the head with a steaming pan of water. The vapors should be inhaled into the lungs for 15 min. per hour and repeated each hour for 4-5 hours for a period of 2 to 3 days. NOTE: Use the 2% Ox-E-Drops solution in a nasal sprayer for sinuses.

Directions For Pets: For either METHOD, allow the pet to breath the vapors for 15-20 minutes of EACH HOUR for a period of 4-5 hours. Repeat for 2-3 days.
Vaporizer - Place the pet in a enclosed area like a small bathroom or kennel along with the vaporizer. With a kennel, use a towel to tent the top to make sure the vapors are directed so the pet can breathe them (avoid hot steam near their nose or face).
Nebulizer - Follow the instructions for your device using the solution you mixed per instructions above.

Below are some stories that give you an idea of what can be expected.

http://www.nzymes.com/pc/successStor...timonial_id=28

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Ox-E drops which are 5% sodium chlorite sold by nzymes.com, they say you can use it ina nebulizer, here is the info they sent me....what do you think?
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I have had terrible Chronic Fatigue for 9 years. I remember having pneumonia before I got sick and I have tested positive for Chlamydia Pneumoniae. I am going to give this a try.
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Hello Red20, I would agree with Ox-E drops, as it is a means to help with 03 uptake for you.
Though there are much cheaper means of doing the same thing. such as the MMS etc..
~None of the below, is a stand alone treatment;
~Ox-E drops, Ozone, CDS, MMS or Hydrogen Peroxide, all helps with the 03 uptake.

~ Of course the Russian protocol of Ozone/Saline IV will completely clear the lung infection and congestion up in 3 days, but that's also the most costly treatment.

~There's one other I didn't mention, and it's a herb. called "Astragalus Root", here's a link for it:
http://www.starwest-botanicals.com/c...tragalus-root/

If interested, here's my own method to take it:
~Mix up peanut butter & honey until it will roll into small balls, about 1 inch size, enough to make up at least a couple dozen of these, then put a deep thumb notch into ea. while adding 1 teaspoon of the Astra-powder and working it into the ball, keep in fridge to stiffen, eat 1 every hr. until lung congestion clears, then 1 as needed. The honey helps it get into your system faster and the peanut butter makes it a treat to take..
~ Note that this is an antioxidant method..

Personally, I'd take the time to do a full body detox to restore your Energy and Immune with Lugol's Iodine 2% Solution, "before" going head-on attack on viral infections. Why? Killing off mass viral's creates additional toxins in the body, which can and often does cause more problem to deal with..

Lugol's Solution ~ 1 drop = 2.5 mg.
You might consider doing 5 drop twice daily [mixed with 4 to 6 oz. water or juice],for the first couple days, then jump to 5 drops 4 times daily, taken 2 hrs. apart..
~You'll know when you're detoxed as your energy will come back and the T3 & T4 of liver will be functioning in top shape again.
~ Since this Solution is antioxidant, it compliments the Astragulas Root and can be alternated with doses.. making for a balanced protocol.
Arrow is very knowledgeable with both oxidant and antioxidant therapies..as is a few others here..
Wishing you healing and success...
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Hello Red20, I would agree with Ox-E drops, as it is a means to help with 03 uptake for you.
Though there are much cheaper means of doing the same thing. such as the MMS etc..
~None of the below, is a stand alone treatment;
~Ox-E drops, Ozone, CDS, MMS or Hydrogen Peroxide, all helps with the 03 uptake.

~ Of course the Russian protocol of Ozone/Saline IV will completely clear the lung infection and congestion up in 3 days, but that's also the most costly treatment.

~There's one other I didn't mention, and it's a herb. called "Astragalus Root", here's a link for it:
http://www.starwest-botanicals.com/c...tragalus-root/

If interested, here's my own method to take it:
~Mix up peanut butter & honey until it will roll into small balls, about 1 inch size, enough to make up at least a couple dozen of these, then put a deep thumb notch into ea. while adding 1 teaspoon of the Astra-powder and working it into the ball, keep in fridge to stiffen, eat 1 every hr. until lung congestion clears, then 1 as needed. The honey helps it get into your system faster and the peanut butter makes it a treat to take..
~ Note that this is an antioxidant method..

Personally, I'd take the time to do a full body detox to restore your Energy and Immune with Lugol's Iodine 2% Solution, "before" going head-on attack on viral infections. Why? Killing off mass viral's creates additional toxins in the body, which can and often does cause more problem to deal with..

Lugol's Solution ~ 1 drop = 2.5 mg.
You might consider doing 5 drop twice daily [mixed with 4 to 6 oz. water or juice],for the first couple days, then jump to 5 drops 4 times daily, taken 2 hrs. apart..
~You'll know when you're detoxed as your energy will come back and the T3 & T4 of liver will be functioning in top shape again.
~ Since this Solution is antioxidant, it compliments the Astragulas Root and can be alternated with doses.. making for a balanced protocol.
Arrow is very knowledgeable with both oxidant and antioxidant therapies..as is a few others here..
Wishing you healing and success...
Hi hobo, Thank you for the excellent advice. Where do I need to go to get the Russian protocol of Ozone/Saline IV? Are there any Doctors in the United States doing this protocol? I am ready to defeat this once and for all and I will pay anything. Even if I have to sell my house. I want to feel normal again. Thanks!
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I have had terrible Chronic Fatigue for 9 years. I remember having pneumonia before I got sick and I have tested positive for Chlamydia Pneumoniae. I am going to give this a try.
Seven drops of oxy-E drops is equal to about one drop of MMS (sodium chlorite). If you inhale with a nebulizer it dont activate it.
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Seven drops of oxy-E drops is equal to about one drop of MMS (sodium chlorite). If you inhale with a nebulizer it dont activate it.
Hi Arrow,

So are you saying that inhaling it won't work?

If I want to defeat the bacteria I need to drink the Chlorine Dioxide?
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No, what Im saying is do not activate mms if you are going to inhale it. I have read that it is beneficial but I have not seen it first hand.

Colloidal silver is very effective in a nebulizer too.

But recently a freind of mine who was treating his elderly mother for chroic bronchitis found that Dr Donsbach's lipsomal vitamin C with gluathione was what really got her over the hump... and he was using silver too but not to sufficient effect to keep her well. He so liked the results he put out for a second bottle.

Eliminating the pathogen of course if important but of equal importance, and sometimes even more important is boosting the immune systems capabilities. Stuff like mms and colloidal silver can be a great help but if the body remains weak in its own inborn defense mechinisms the disease might return, especially in weak areas that have had challenges.

www.letstalkhealth.com for lipsomal c with glutathione
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